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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
January 30 2010 09:46 GMT
#1
Hey guys.

I'm looking to buy a new gamer stationary pc. So far I've found this and would like any input if anything is a no go.

* INTEL i7 860 (SOCKET 1156), 4x2.8ghz
* 1GB DDR5 HD5770 GRAFIKKORT, (SUPPORT DIRECTX 11 GAMES)
* GIGABYTE P55, (INTEL P55) (x16 EXPRESS 2.0)
***SUPPORTS CROSSFIRE***
* 4GB DDR3 1333MHZ RAM, KINGSTON *10 YEARS WARRANTY*
* 500GB WD HARDDISK,7200RPM
* 24x SATA DVD +/-, OG DVD-RAM (SONY)
* 750W "GAMING" POWERSUPPLY, SILENT
* 7.1 SURROUND SOUNDCARD
* IEEE 1394a FIREWIRE PORT
* E-SATA PORT
* 12x USB2.0 PORTS
* GIGABIT NETCARD (1000Mbit)
* SUPPORT RAID

I know very little about graphics etc. and it is a jungle to easily get lost in around the net so any info would be appriciated.

ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-30 10:08:48
January 30 2010 10:05 GMT
#2
Whether it's a no-go or not depends on the price, but from I what I have seen, the i7 860 isn't really worth the money that is spent on it.

If you plan on crossfiring, you should know that the P55 motherboards despite being Crossfire/SLi capable, do not actually maximize performance. There are two PCIe 2.0 X16 slots in a P55, but when both are used with a graphics card, they both drop down to X8. This actually shouldn't be a problem if you want to crossfire two 5770s since they don't produce enough power to hit the bottleneck though.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
January 30 2010 10:13 GMT
#3
The GTX 260 performs better in tests than the ati 5770, and theyre priced almost the same. Maybe switch for that? but imo for a gaming system you should spend more on the graphics card.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-30 10:24:28
January 30 2010 10:21 GMT
#4
There is no reason to buy a GTX 260 when the 4890, a card that is designed to compete with the GTX 275 can be obtained for around the same price. The 5770 has barely above/about/barely below the performance of the GTX 260/4870 and also has support for DX11.

Many of the situations where the 260 outperformed the 5770 by a significant amount are due to insufficient drivers and support.

Anyways at the moment a 5770 is around the area of $160-170 whereas a 260 is around the area of $190-200.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
January 30 2010 11:16 GMT
#5
I would go for i5 750, and HD5850. It will be significantly better for small difference in price.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
January 30 2010 11:34 GMT
#6
I'm with polis.
#1 Kwanro Fan
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
January 30 2010 11:46 GMT
#7
Ok, thanks guys. Especially about the i7 versus i5 and such. I will go for that instead then.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
January 30 2010 13:01 GMT
#8
On January 30 2010 18:46 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Hey guys.

I'm looking to buy a new gamer stationary pc. So far I've found this and would like any input if anything is a no go.

* INTEL i7 860 (SOCKET 1156), 4x2.8ghz
* 1GB DDR5 HD5770 GRAFIKKORT, (SUPPORT DIRECTX 11 GAMES)
* GIGABYTE P55, (INTEL P55) (x16 EXPRESS 2.0)
***SUPPORTS CROSSFIRE***
* 4GB DDR3 1333MHZ RAM, KINGSTON *10 YEARS WARRANTY*
* 500GB WD HARDDISK,7200RPM
* 24x SATA DVD +/-, OG DVD-RAM (SONY)
* 750W "GAMING" POWERSUPPLY, SILENT
* 7.1 SURROUND SOUNDCARD
* IEEE 1394a FIREWIRE PORT
* E-SATA PORT
* 12x USB2.0 PORTS
* GIGABIT NETCARD (1000Mbit)
* SUPPORT RAID

I know very little about graphics etc. and it is a jungle to easily get lost in around the net so any info would be appriciated.


you should add your budget and screen resolution,

anyway the psu is overkill, you don't need a dedicated sound/networkcard anymore.
and for gaming that cpu won't make any difference
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
January 30 2010 13:19 GMT
#9
Motherboard sound cards are decent, but dedicated ones are much better, so it is up to personal preference if you find the extra cost worth it.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-30 14:08:51
January 30 2010 14:08 GMT
#10
If everyone responds with don't get x get y instead its about the same price and a bit better,
no get z instead of y its the same price and a bit better, he'll end up getting a way more expensive one than he wanted. lol.


And how much is the total cost of those parts?
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-30 14:49:02
January 30 2010 14:47 GMT
#11
Take an i5-750 and a 5850 ( well if your screen can do HD )
If not i think you should buy a nice 23"+

Also i don't know the PSU ... and i'm not too confident.
I would prefer to take a 500W of a good brand than a shitty fake 750W no name.

edit: we are saying the same things. I still have hope in humanity !
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
January 30 2010 15:33 GMT
#12
i7's for xfire/sli i5's for single card

Also what case are you getting?
^______________^
Commodore
Profile Joined January 2008
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 00:30:31
January 31 2010 00:28 GMT
#13
The i7 supports 3 channels of memory. Use them! Either get three 1 GB sticks or three 2 GB sticks of RAM.

The i5 supports only two channels of memory, so 4GB is fine if you decide to go with the i5.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 31 2010 02:56 GMT
#14
On January 30 2010 20:16 Polis wrote:
I would go for i5 750, and HD5850. It will be significantly better for small difference in price.


Just listen to this guy.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 03:47:56
January 31 2010 03:45 GMT
#15
On January 31 2010 09:28 Commodore wrote:
The i7 supports 3 channels of memory. Use them! Either get three 1 GB sticks or three 2 GB sticks of RAM.

The i5 supports only two channels of memory, so 4GB is fine if you decide to go with the i5.


The i5 7xx and the i7 8xx both use the LGA 1156 socket and neither are compatible with triple channel memory. Do some research please.

the i5 750 and 5850 will get you better performance overall, and the extra mhz you get from the i7 860 isn't worth the money since it is encroaching on i7 920 territory. If you can't spend anymore than your current budget, the 5830 which should be out by March will offer you another alternative.

Word on the street says that AMD is also planning to update their 5800 series/make a new series of GPUs by the 2nd half of 2010 so you might want to watch out for that as well if you aren't in a hurry. If you don't buy the new GPUs, you could at least see if the price drops a bit more.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
January 31 2010 09:20 GMT
#16
ditch i7 get a phenom II X4

phenom II X4 is about the same performance level as a i7 and way cheaper, intel is like nvidia, they overcharge and "lie" about their stuff
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 31 2010 09:25 GMT
#17
Have to get a AM3 board and OC that P2X4
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Commodore
Profile Joined January 2008
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 22:26:43
January 31 2010 22:20 GMT
#18
On January 31 2010 12:45 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 09:28 Commodore wrote:
The i7 supports 3 channels of memory. Use them! Either get three 1 GB sticks or three 2 GB sticks of RAM.

The i5 supports only two channels of memory, so 4GB is fine if you decide to go with the i5.


The i5 7xx and the i7 8xx both use the LGA 1156 socket and neither are compatible with triple channel memory. Do some research please.


Perhaps you should do some research. Google search "i7" and click on the first result:

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/corei7/index.htm

It supports 3 channels of memory.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 22:29:21
January 31 2010 22:27 GMT
#19
On February 01 2010 07:20 Commodore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 12:45 FragKrag wrote:
On January 31 2010 09:28 Commodore wrote:
The i7 supports 3 channels of memory. Use them! Either get three 1 GB sticks or three 2 GB sticks of RAM.

The i5 supports only two channels of memory, so 4GB is fine if you decide to go with the i5.


The i5 7xx and the i7 8xx both use the LGA 1156 socket and neither are compatible with triple channel memory. Do some research please.


Perhaps you should do some research. Google search "i7" and click on the first result:

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/corei7/index.htm

It supports 3 channels of memory.

I7 8xx =/= i7 9xx
/facepalm
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Commodore
Profile Joined January 2008
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 23:28:57
January 31 2010 23:19 GMT
#20
On February 01 2010 07:27 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2010 07:20 Commodore wrote:
On January 31 2010 12:45 FragKrag wrote:
On January 31 2010 09:28 Commodore wrote:
The i7 supports 3 channels of memory. Use them! Either get three 1 GB sticks or three 2 GB sticks of RAM.

The i5 supports only two channels of memory, so 4GB is fine if you decide to go with the i5.


The i5 7xx and the i7 8xx both use the LGA 1156 socket and neither are compatible with triple channel memory. Do some research please.


Perhaps you should do some research. Google search "i7" and click on the first result:

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/corei7/index.htm

It supports 3 channels of memory.

I7 8xx =/= i7 9xx
/facepalm

Ahh, I didn't realize that Intel gimped their newer i7s and didn't update the page I linked to accordingly =(.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14904 Posts
February 01 2010 05:47 GMT
#21
On January 31 2010 18:20 G3CKO wrote:
ditch i7 get a phenom II X4

phenom II X4 is about the same performance level as a i7 and way cheaper, intel is like nvidia, they overcharge and "lie" about their stuff


stop making stuff up please
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
You can argue cheaper but you certainly cannot argue performance
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
February 01 2010 06:14 GMT
#22
that is a very bad benchmark to judge cores by.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/benchmarks,60.html

is much better because you get to see how each CPU performs in different tasks. There are cases in which the Phenom II X4 can approach the i7/i5 line, but yeah what you say holds true 90% of the time.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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