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[H]Shankly get Better (with replays)

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MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 16:18:31
January 22 2010 16:14 GMT
#1
Basically i have now been playing sc for a year and 10 days, and im still so shit. I am D+ and would appreciate people willing to help me get better xD

I have read the recommended topics etc but find it difficult to put the stuff into practice

Any help is appreciated thnx, here is some replaysssssssssss


Oh, some other info:

I play protoss
Average apm - 110-125
Current rank - D+
Desired skill level - Stork and Above

P.S. woot my first topic!!!!!!!!

http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=29511

http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=29510

I will edit this bit once i get more replaysss


Thanks again! oh and my online names are Gogoprobe and MrShankly if anyone wants to play some practice games or whatever

DONATE SC2 BETA KEY TO ME PLEASE
Aresien
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United Kingdom305 Posts
January 22 2010 16:22 GMT
#2
Desired skill level - Stork and Above... GL .

We need to play some more, vs T you need more arbs!
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
January 22 2010 17:14 GMT
#3
Your goal for the next 50 games you play is to never miss a pylon, and never have idle gates (unless you are saving for Nexus or what not), and never have idle probes. It should take you at least a month or two to accomplish this. When you have that as your subconscious foundation, you can move on to more advanced things.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
January 22 2010 17:46 GMT
#4
On January 23 2010 02:14 Murderotica wrote:
Your goal for the next 50 games you play is to never miss a pylon, and never have idle gates (unless you are saving for Nexus or what not), and never have idle probes. It should take you at least a month or two to accomplish this. When you have that as your subconscious foundation, you can move on to more advanced things.


And since you are protoss....
Jaedong :3
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
January 22 2010 18:30 GMT
#5
On January 23 2010 02:46 ReketSomething wrote:
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On January 23 2010 02:14 Murderotica wrote:
Your goal for the next 50 games you play is to never miss a pylon, and never have idle gates (unless you are saving for Nexus or what not), and never have idle probes. It should take you at least a month or two to accomplish this. When you have that as your subconscious foundation, you can move on to more advanced things.


And since you are protoss....

Icons don't mean anything.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
January 22 2010 18:36 GMT
#6
hey, wanna play together?
i haven't ever been committed enough on ICCUP to play more than 10 games.
pm me sometime~
Nao
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 18:48:14
January 22 2010 18:46 GMT
#7
Hi i'm a noob with ~20games on iccup and D+rank but i prefer to watch SC rather than play (lack of time), i have some advice from waching game 1 on destination (vs Noah). Use at your own risk
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- use first obs to scout, if you knew he was not going to push early - you can exp faster or tech
- better goon placement - make arc around his bridges - better for sniping SCV/Vult leaving his base
- if you see him taking 3rd like that - go in with several goons to delay it (just position them so he cant hit tham from main, and use goons near his bridges to cut down any units that will try to make way there to clean that expo.
- use scouting info on T push intended timing and based on this build zelots, if no push is coming, take exp or tech to arbs/carriers
- position zelots with goons in case he pushes (it was @ mid game time)
- as soon as you see he does not like to push ,try taking 4th and 5th expo
- if he turtles hard , try his defences from diffrent angles with small goon task forces to see what he is up to, delay exps and generally be annoing, but try not to loose units to much.

- macro better, (bane of D players lol ) - if you end up with lot of money , and constant lack of APM to macro properly , try queueing 2 or 3 units at GW's - while it's BAD it helped me better control my low APM late game

-dont do suicidal attacks, if because of recall you can't prevent him from securing 8 o'clock expo than let him do it (lern when to retreat - loss of zealots don't hurt much but zealots and dragons is bad), it will mean he will have less to defend main - recall there. if he comes back then retake 8 o'clock with new batch of zelots + some goons
- if he has to many turrets use hallucination on arbs to recall , also lot's of turrets *usually* mean no mines (generally taht game lacked Recall in main)
- if you cant take him out on the ground - take the battle into the air , build several carriers , chances are he will build too much goliats and your ground army will be able to push him back , or with so many bases you can go all in carriers.
- last reacall wass awfull, you cant recall on top of his main defence line.

Play Terran for a while, not only you will be able to grasp their timings better , also you will see when they are weak and when strong, and other things like: recall soft spots, how to bait toss with small pushes to suicide his army on your high grount tank line. (like when you tryed stopping him from creeping out of 8 o'clock)
I played Toss first - then switched to T, and my TvP is way better than TvZ or TvT because of that.
sorry for grammar errors
Generally aside from not recalling enough or swiching to carriers i think you played well ;] Hope it helps somehow.
One cannot out-kwanro Kwanro. -Trap
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 22 2010 20:18 GMT
#8
Shankly my dear, I don't give a damn...

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J/K! I suggest mass gaming with some of these players if you have the theoretical bckground for now... you just need to work on mechanics.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9106 Posts
January 22 2010 20:52 GMT
#9
I think people would be more willing to help you if you gave some insight as to why you think you lost particular games. If you are making an effort to improve people are more willing to help. I'm on my laptop now with no sc but msg me at sMi.Arcology on ICCUP and I'd go over a replay with you and try see if there is anything obvious to improve upon.
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