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Will the new Powercolor 5850 video card work in an old AMD socket 939 3400 venice setup with a 485 energimax / (or was it thermaltake?) power supply? No overclocking is intended.
This is for a friend, she absolutely refuses to get a new PSU, as the old PSU as 32 A on the DUAL 12V rail which is decent even by today's standards.
So, without overclocking, will the powercolor 5850 video card run well on a themarltake/energimax PSU with 485 W and 18 A dual rail (32 A total) without overclocking along side an intel i5 750 or AMD 965?
PC experts PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!
Old system is an athlon 939 3000+ venice with an ATI 850 PRO video card. Help would be greatly greatly greatly greatly appreciated. Thanks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much in advance.
Edit: I know the CPU is bottlenecking the crap out of the 5850, but the GPU is coming first and as she saves up more money she'll upgrade her CPU/MOBO/RAM as well.
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A 485 Watt power supply should be enough to handle the ATI 5850. But you will experience CPU bottleneck if you don't upgrade the cpu.
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PSU Requirement for HIS HD 5850 1GB (from http://www.hisdigital.com/un/product2-474.shtml)
500 Watt or greater power supply with two 75W 6-pin PCI Express® power connectors recommended (600 Watt and four 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireXTM technology in dual mode)
In short, he's gonna need another power supply.
Additionally, the processor (and whatever other antiquated gear he most likely has on that comp) will bottleneck the hell out of the card anyway.
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On January 19 2010 14:12 WheelOfTime wrote: Will the new Powercolor 5850 video card work in an old AMD socket 939 3400 venice setup with a 485 energimax / (or was it thermaltake?) power supply? No overclocking is intended. A 5850 with an ancient amd cpu? Not worth it. There won't be a noticeable difference to make it worth the investment. The cpu will hold back the graphics card soo much.
On January 19 2010 14:12 WheelOfTime wrote:So, without overclocking, will the powercolor 5850 video card run well on a themarltake/energimax PSU with 485 W and 18 A dual rail (32 A total) without overclocking along side an intel i5 750 or AMD 965? Will it work? yes Would I advise it? no The PSU is the one computer part that doesn't die by itself.. (if it blows, you'll be lucky if your entire rig doesn't go with it). A 5850 is ~$300. A quality 500w PSU would set you back ~$50-75.
This is assuming the psu is actually an old, low-end one. I don't have any experience with thermaltake/energimax so I can't help you there.
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On January 19 2010 14:12 WheelOfTime wrote: Will the new Powercolor 5850 video card work in an old AMD socket 939 3400 venice setup with a 485 energimax / (or was it thermaltake?) power supply? No overclocking is intended.
This is for a friend, he absolutely refuses to get a new PSU, as the old PSU as 32 A on the DUAL 12V rail which is decent even by today's standards.
So, without overclocking, will the powercolor 5850 video card run well on a themarltake/energimax PSU with 485 W and 18 A dual rail (32 A total) without overclocking along side an intel i5 750 or AMD 965?
PC experts PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!
Old system is an athlon 939 3000+ venice with an ATI 850 PRO video card. Help would be greatly greatly greatly greatly appreciated. Thanks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much in advance. 1. Yes, but the cpu will bottleneck the shit out of a 5850. 2. 485W psu is enough with a middle of the road quality brand like the ones you pointed out.
3. 400W is sufficient with a modern 1 card build including a 5850 for no overclocking. 500-550W should be good if you want to overclock.
If you're going to buy a new psu, get a good brand like corsair.
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Thanks for the replies.
Situation goes:
Really good friend of mine, been a friend of mine for at least 10+ years. Recently she got addicted to some older games such as Oblivion and COD4, she really wanted a new system that would run these games well. With that said, she wanted to upgrade the graphics card (850 PRO SM2.0 lol) first, then eventually as she saves up more money she'll buy a complete CPU/Mobo upgrade. She has a 485 Thermaltake / (or was it energimax)? 485 18A dual 12V+ rail PSU, alongside a modern computer case, so he's only upgrading the video card first then the CPU/Mobo/RAM/HDD.
So I guess, I'm looking for advice for how to best help her meet her needs. I own an i7 5800 series set up myself, so I've only looked into the high end setup and not the middle-mainstream end, so help would be, again, greatly greatly greatly appreciated.
P.S. Although I have a GF, this a a LONG LONG LONG time female friend that I loved from the bottom of my heart. I'd really like to help her and reconnect with her via a +6V power connector in any way I can.
Help, again, would be greatly greatly greatly greatly GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks, so much, in advance.
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if this psu is so old does it even have 2 pci-express power outlets??
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On January 19 2010 15:00 KOFgokuon wrote: if this psu is so old does it even have 2 pci-express power outlets??
The motherboard is an ASUS A8N5X, which was one of the best valued motherboards for the powerful althon64 CPUs back in the days.
The PSU isn't too shabby either, it's age aside, it supports DUAL 12+ V rail, sport 18A for up to 32A total on the two 12+ V rails, and like I said, this isn't too shabby even by today's standards.
As for your question, I've no idea, what you mean by having two 2-PCI-express connectors, because the old GFX card (850 PRO) only requires ONE 6 pin external power connector.
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well you need 2 pci-express connectors for a 5850 so this is a relevant question as far as i know
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You can always buy an adapter for like a dollar so thats not really that much of a problem.
As for your friend, strongly insist on buying a rig all at once. Something along the lines of i3 + 5770.
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The AMD 720X3 BE is actually a very good performer for its cost.
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do you have a wattmeter? a wattmeter is cheap and good to locate the badboys (in terms of powerconsume) in your house. If you know how you consume power you can adjust it, this can decrease your power costs and saves the environment so it's well worth it. Where I live we can lend such device from the muncipal administration, maybe you can too?
if you have one you can simply measure the wattage the computer "eats up" at full work (get HDs, GFX card, CPU, RAM, Sound and DVD-Drives running fully) calculate in the efficiency factor (good PSU have > 80%) add some safty factor. then take the difference between the actual GFX card and the new one and you know if the PSU can take it or not. I have a 500W myself with an i7-920 @ 3.6GHz and nVidia-275 the RAM @ 800MHz (1600 slopes) and never had problems.
mostly you will see that you don't need a massive PSU if you don't overclock.
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Make sure you charge your friend 5$ for the advice you provide. That way, next time you are starving with only 7$ you can starve a little less.a
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All newer video cards need 2 PCI-E power connectors. Even new power supplies may not have this, so that's the first thing you should check.
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My bro can't even run a 9800GTX using that 939 3400+. You will need at least a X2 dual core cpu...>6000+ to make that 5850 do anything useful. And even then the cpu is still prob going to be the bottleneck
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On January 19 2010 14:12 WheelOfTime wrote: Will the new Powercolor 5850 video card work in an old AMD socket 939 3400 venice setup with a 485 energimax / (or was it thermaltake?) power supply? No overclocking is intended.
This is for a friend, she absolutely refuses to get a new PSU, as the old PSU as 32 A on the DUAL 12V rail which is decent even by today's standards.
So, without overclocking, will the powercolor 5850 video card run well on a themarltake/energimax PSU with 485 W and 18 A dual rail (32 A total) without overclocking along side an intel i5 750 or AMD 965?
PC experts PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!
Old system is an athlon 939 3000+ venice with an ATI 850 PRO video card. Help would be greatly greatly greatly greatly appreciated. Thanks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much in advance.
you should really try to find the model number and google it or something.
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Wtf... why would a girl need such a nice video card.
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