EPTAs long as you're learning, you'll be fine. Everyone has off days. Can't win em all.
My first REAL days of laddering as protoss - Page 2
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
As long as you're learning, you'll be fine. Everyone has off days. Can't win em all. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On January 12 2010 09:52 Kenpachi wrote: So true. ^_^the terrans ragequit while the zerg ggs. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On January 12 2010 11:25 HazMat wrote: KenpachiMarine? Cause if this is you, I thought you were good from the way you criticized that one long game between me and tofu. ...... no. dont get me mixed up >>.. | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
On January 12 2010 11:00 Kenpachi wrote: you guys do know 9pool is like the ultimate noob killer right? im annoyed that i lost games i could have won. i scouted the 3hat speedling ( i think it was 2 fml) and i scouted the empty terran base and the rax lifting into my main. im also annoyed by the fact that if i went 0-6 after going 5-1. i dont care about the record. i care about not being able to win a single game after a winstreak edit: i think the point of ladder for many is to oh idk go up in the rankings? no the "ultimate noob killer" is solid play. You are bad but your on the right track; the players who are cheesing you and winning are duplicates of what you described yourself to be before you started laddering for "real". Let go of your pride, you're a noob, you don't need to make excuses why you lost, you just need to take it in stride. Your stats don't matter, the whether you won or lost your last game doesn't matter, just keep playing and keep thinking about your play. You say you lack confidence, that confidence doesn't come from winning, it comes from playing a lot of games until your comfortable in game. We've all been where you've been and it's probably the least pleasant phase of bw development but once you've gotten comfortable; once your a solid D maybe even D+ player the game becomes much more relaxing and enjoyable. gl hf | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On January 12 2010 11:34 n.DieJokes wrote: no the "ultimate noob killer" is solid play. You are bad but your on the right track; the players who are cheesing you and winning are duplicates of what you described yourself to be before you started laddering for "real". Let go of your pride, you're a noob, you don't need to make excuses why you lost, you just need to take it in stride. Your stats don't matter, the whether you won or lost your last game doesn't matter, just keep playing and keep thinking about your play. You say you lack confidence, that confidence doesn't come from winning, it comes from playing a lot of games until your comfortable in game. We've all been where you've been and it's probably the least pleasant phase of bw development but once you've gotten comfortable; once your a solid D maybe even D+ player the game becomes much more relaxing and enjoyable. gl hf That there is false. I played so many games. SOOOOOOOOO many games. i still felt scared. maybe for you, playing gave you confidence. for me, i had to win. until i won, i felt like i was going to lose. im not going to argue about 9pool and i always thought cheese was an easy way to win o_O.. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On January 12 2010 09:52 Kenpachi wrote: Ive always cheesed my way up the ladder 9pooling D protoss and zergs. i never once laddered completely as 1 race. never. i always offrace because i have no confidence in myself. just recently, i got confidence after seeing how bad Ds are after cheesing so many of them.. Saturaday was such a goooood day. i was 4-0 on saturday. funny. the terrans ragequit while the zerg ggs. Yesterday, i was 1-1. I didnt lose that badly to a Japanese player and i got a win because a zerg left when i found his third..... today was so horrible i felt like crying. my 5-1 record became 5-7 and i lost to so many shit i was TRAINED to stop. I was ling allined, had a game where the terran threw away all his scvs for a proxy bunker rush... and i lost to D-s and i kept disconnecting when i wanted to play PvZ afterwards. I also only played on my best maps..... HBR and Destination. now its korean times and i cant melee anymore for today or else my 5-7 will get worse and ill be stuck in E rank. tomorrow is a new day. i wonder what Stop being a pussy and man up. If you cant beat D level Koreans then you are not a D level player. | ||
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yes9111
United States420 Posts
On January 12 2010 11:46 Mastermind wrote: Stop being a pussy and man up. If you cant beat D level Koreans then you are not a D level player. =( =( =( =( =( Well I won like 2 games against Koreans. =D For some reason there seem to be a lot more smurfs this season than the last one. I was able to get to D+ last season but I'm barely keeping myself above 1000 this season... Or maybe I just got worse. FML | ||
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duckett
United States589 Posts
today i played a Z who told me he was B+ high protoss then he manner hatched me...i broke it while losing too many marines to bad micro and then he 3 hat linged me and lost everything(~36 lings) to 2 bunkers with firebats =D and a few mnm ofc, i wasnt just playing ridiculously safe for no reason, but i was scouting him for way longer than he should have let me with a scv on his nat ridge @ heartbreak | ||
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2minutevictory
United States89 Posts
even if they go like 5 hatch hydra all you have to do is get templars and zealots and you win because they can't dodge storm and macro at the same time D level is soooooo easyy to get through as protoss. | ||
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Sharp-eYe
Canada642 Posts
On January 12 2010 11:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote: It's time to practice non-cheese builds. Cheese won't work on everyone as your try to accend, and your skills of more 'standard" games will continue to diminish. You'll be trapped forever unless you change things up some, steer towards standard and make cheese 1/5 or less of your games. i agree with this. However, you can should take concepts from rush type builds into your longer game plans (such as timing attacks, or hiding tech). Rush builds and longer games are like food: Have your chips once in a while but if you eat too many ull get fat (with losses in this case) | ||
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
On January 12 2010 12:32 2minutevictory wrote: pvz all u need to do is make 10 cannons at your nat at d level when you fe and it's free win. even if they go like 5 hatch hydra all you have to do is get templars and zealots and you win because they can't dodge storm and macro at the same time D level is soooooo easyy to get through as protoss. that even works against B- foreign zergs | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On January 12 2010 11:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote: It's time to practice non-cheese builds. Cheese won't work on everyone as your try to accend, and your skills of more 'standard" games will continue to diminish. You'll be trapped forever unless you change things up some, steer towards standard and make cheese 1/5 or less of your games. i limited myself to 1 cheese per day. forgot to mention this >> | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
am I the only Terran that doesn't rage? T_T | ||
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
A lot of Zerg are just used to 1) Winning with their first wave of hydras/mutas or 2) Have no idea WTF to do if they dont win with that. For protoss, as the game goes on it gets easier. Take a second expo, push out with a big glob of units, make sure you have obs and watch the zerg QQ. Thats how ZvP for me feels anyway. I'm terrified of the first 10 minutes and then confident as hell after that. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On January 12 2010 10:52 Pokebunny wrote: 5-7 is nothing. Keep trying. ![[image loading]](http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3764/dontgiveup.jpg) gtfo poke + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
On January 12 2010 12:59 Pokebunny wrote: am I the only Terran that doesn't rage? T_T Nope ^^, ... Well not in the game XD | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On January 12 2010 13:13 Caphe wrote: Dont dodge the Koreans if you really want to improve koreans killed me with a pylon and 2 probes. no way | ||
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2minutevictory
United States89 Posts
guarantee you'll get at least all their drones and a pool if you get corsairs with the drop guaranteed you'll get the lair and everything in the main. against terran, gas steal them and get 4 goons and then expand. if they go bunker expand just wait for their scvs to repair the bunker to full health and attack it. 90% of the time the scvs won't repair and the bunker will die and you can kill everything he has because his tank will be just started. if he gets 2 barracks simply make cannons. against protoss do 2gate zealot and 90% of the time they'll lose half their probes to it and from their just get a forge, make cannons + expand and defend from all reaver/dt harrass. and then use your 2base to mass tons of goons to rape him. ( this works all the way up to like C , and once in a while once you're like B) the conclusion, PROTOSS IS NOT HARD. and if you really want to get to C/C+ but still kind of suck you can play terran or zerg. terran all you need to do is abuse the fact that all D/D+ protoss like 1a2a3a and streamline their army which will just evaporate to a terran who doesn't have more then 3000 minerals and gas. or vult drop and kill all their probes. Against zerg the easiest strat is to just mass turrets against mutas and watch them try to micro against them and lose all their mutas. and then proceed to 1a2a3a with your mnm army + vessel and tank. For Zerg! this is like the easiest one of them all not including zvz which is a pain in the ass. vs Protoss make 3 sunkens at every base get a normal spire timing, scourge their corsairs and proceed to rape them with some mutas. the protoss will do something dumb such as attack your 3 sunks with 8 +1 attack speedzeals and unless you purposely sabotaged your simcity the attack is sure to fail. D level protoss players like to make 1 cannon and like 4 corsairs and think their safe against mutas, get like 8 scourge and 9 mutas and win the game. if they get archons their building placement will be so bad your mutas will never be able to get hit. Against terran if they go bio you must have semi decent muta micro to win, but if you can must hit 4sm 5sm 6sm while microing mutalisks this will be easy for you. if you are atrocious at muta micro either 1 : switch race or 2: go lurkers and use hold position lurkers 90% of the time they'll walk their mnm force into it and lose the game because they think they're so clever with their genius aggressive strategies. after doing so be prepared to hear some rage because terran players are often the ones who have most trouble getting past D due to lack of sportsmanship and inability to accept that darkswarm and arbiters are balanced. Against Zerg you really just have to learn good muta vs scourge micro and pray to god that you don't get a build order disadvantage. but assuming scourge and build order advantages don't exist. the easiest way to win is wait for them to take their natural hatchery and make sure you have more zerglings. send all your mutas to their main and all your zerglings to their nat, they're bound to lose one and from there the game is yours. I typed all this very fast and did not try to revise anything so excuse me for spelling/grammar errors edit : this is all you need to do to hit C- BUT! you'll have a hardass time winning once these tricks stop working and the people you play start getting good so i advise starting to play standard once you're out of the cheese infested D ranks | ||
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Nub4ever
Canada1981 Posts
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