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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
January 11 2010 17:54 GMT
#41
One of my best friends goes to Harvard and he loves it. Good luck with your dream!
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
January 11 2010 18:09 GMT
#42
harvard is really shitty, full of terrible people and few TL'ers and awful starcraft players on the whole.

princeton on the other hand...is motherfucking starcraft wonderland.
also a better school =) (at some things >.>)
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 11 2010 18:11 GMT
#43
On January 12 2010 01:58 akevin wrote:
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On January 12 2010 00:07 citi.zen wrote:
Careful with your recommendation letters. What I did was this: asked for the ones I needed + one I never intended to send out. I then opened that one and read the letters myself before sending them out. Keep in mind everyone sends in good letters (inflation of sorts), so even a slightly bad sentence can be magnified in the eyes of an admissions' board.


Aren't most recommendation letters sent via online systems nowadays (all 6 places I applied to were like this)? In addition, even if you are applying via paper application, everywhere I applied to required them in sealed envelopes signed across the back. I know some professors don't mind sharing letters with their students, however I wouldn't count on being able to select the best ones yourself. But it is definitely a good idea to have more than 3 possibilities in case one is busy/away etc.


Right, which is why you ask for an extra one, which you never plan to use and can open...
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
January 11 2010 18:19 GMT
#44
On January 12 2010 03:11 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 01:58 akevin wrote:
On January 12 2010 00:07 citi.zen wrote:
Careful with your recommendation letters. What I did was this: asked for the ones I needed + one I never intended to send out. I then opened that one and read the letters myself before sending them out. Keep in mind everyone sends in good letters (inflation of sorts), so even a slightly bad sentence can be magnified in the eyes of an admissions' board.


Aren't most recommendation letters sent via online systems nowadays (all 6 places I applied to were like this)? In addition, even if you are applying via paper application, everywhere I applied to required them in sealed envelopes signed across the back. I know some professors don't mind sharing letters with their students, however I wouldn't count on being able to select the best ones yourself. But it is definitely a good idea to have more than 3 possibilities in case one is busy/away etc.


Right, which is why you ask for an extra one, which you never plan to use and can open...


So you are lying to your professors. I don't think that's ethical.
:]
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16991 Posts
January 11 2010 18:30 GMT
#45
On January 12 2010 00:49 Pathos wrote:
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On January 11 2010 16:16 Empyrean wrote:
Sorry for the questions <_<....but I'm interested in grad school for stats as well and I just have a few.

What's stats grad school like? Where do you go to school and what do you hope to do with your life? What was your undergrad degree in? GPA and other activities? Any tips or anything? >_>



On the subject of tips, definitely make sure you have a strong background in mathematics in particular analysis (don't be afraid to go up to functional analysis) and linear algebra. The topic that gives people the most difficulty is probability theory, which requires some mathematical matuirty to succeed.

From this point on its merely a curiosity, but if you want to be an extremely strong candidate there are a few things which may be extremely unreasonable to consider:

1. a very high score on the GRE mathematics exam (will require knowledge of complex analysis and higher algebra)
2. an accelerated MS in mathematics from your university
3. letters of recommendation from a very distinguished faculty member at your university (preferably someone who has served as dept chair). don't ask if you don't think they can write a good one however, as mentioned above there is inflation in recommendations.

Overkill I know for most people interested in statistics, but the level of competition is high to get into the top programs and once you're admitted your classmates (particularly Chinese applicants) will have seen this much math and more. I wouldn't worry about extracurriculars.

That being said, quality of life varies from program to program, also on personality and post-graduation goals. Being domestic applicants (or very close), you should definitely visit the institution after admission for an impression.


Thanks for the advice :D. I've already taken Linear Algebra and calculus based Probability, and will probably do the Probability/Measure Theory class my senior year (I'm currently a sophomore). Another bonus of our undergrad stats department is that it's extremely small and there's a lot of student-faculty interaction. The undergrad-faculty ratio is literally something insane like 1-1 or 1.5-1. I'm also an officer of our statistics majors union (along with like...a fourth of the total majors hahahaha)....I have a fairly low GPA, though...3.466 currently (although I'm taking all the pre-med courses as well).
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 11 2010 18:39 GMT
#46
On January 12 2010 03:19 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 03:11 citi.zen wrote:
On January 12 2010 01:58 akevin wrote:
On January 12 2010 00:07 citi.zen wrote:
Careful with your recommendation letters. What I did was this: asked for the ones I needed + one I never intended to send out. I then opened that one and read the letters myself before sending them out. Keep in mind everyone sends in good letters (inflation of sorts), so even a slightly bad sentence can be magnified in the eyes of an admissions' board.


Aren't most recommendation letters sent via online systems nowadays (all 6 places I applied to were like this)? In addition, even if you are applying via paper application, everywhere I applied to required them in sealed envelopes signed across the back. I know some professors don't mind sharing letters with their students, however I wouldn't count on being able to select the best ones yourself. But it is definitely a good idea to have more than 3 possibilities in case one is busy/away etc.


Right, which is why you ask for an extra one, which you never plan to use and can open...


So you are lying to your professors. I don't think that's ethical.


I am not suggesting you cheat or lie. I am saying you could ask for an extra recommendation, which in no way impacts what the professors write. It simply gives you more information to base your decisions on. If you have a huge problem with that, simply ignore the advice & just read the "good luck". Whatever :-)
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 11 2010 18:46 GMT
#47
On January 12 2010 00:07 citi.zen wrote:
Activities are important, start NOW. Run for something on campus (does your school have a student board of some sort? anything like that would help).

Take the GREs early AND take some subject GREs, especially since you're a math major applying outside of your field.

Careful with your recommendation letters. What I did was this: asked for the ones I needed + one I never intended to send out. I then opened that one and read the letters myself before sending them out. Keep in mind everyone sends in good letters (inflation of sorts), so even a slightly bad sentence can be magnified in the eyes of an admissions' board.

Good luck!


Uh aren't you supposed to NOT read your letters? When I applied all the profs sent them themselves as we had to supply the envelope and stamps.
Never Knows Best.
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
January 11 2010 21:24 GMT
#48
On January 12 2010 03:39 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 03:19 illu wrote:
On January 12 2010 03:11 citi.zen wrote:
On January 12 2010 01:58 akevin wrote:
On January 12 2010 00:07 citi.zen wrote:
Careful with your recommendation letters. What I did was this: asked for the ones I needed + one I never intended to send out. I then opened that one and read the letters myself before sending them out. Keep in mind everyone sends in good letters (inflation of sorts), so even a slightly bad sentence can be magnified in the eyes of an admissions' board.


Aren't most recommendation letters sent via online systems nowadays (all 6 places I applied to were like this)? In addition, even if you are applying via paper application, everywhere I applied to required them in sealed envelopes signed across the back. I know some professors don't mind sharing letters with their students, however I wouldn't count on being able to select the best ones yourself. But it is definitely a good idea to have more than 3 possibilities in case one is busy/away etc.


Right, which is why you ask for an extra one, which you never plan to use and can open...


So you are lying to your professors. I don't think that's ethical.


I am not suggesting you cheat or lie. I am saying you could ask for an extra recommendation, which in no way impacts what the professors write. It simply gives you more information to base your decisions on. If you have a huge problem with that, simply ignore the advice & just read the "good luck". Whatever :-)

yeah um this is not ethical by the standards of any college or high school. your standards may differ though t.t
funky squaredance funky squaredance funky squaredance
TeH_Mentalist
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Korea (South)244 Posts
January 11 2010 21:56 GMT
#49
On January 11 2010 12:33 illu wrote:
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On January 11 2010 12:32 DeathSpank wrote:
hope you have a 4.0+ and a ton of extra curriculars

I am not applying for their medical school though~

medical>their reg school?
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 00:22:02
January 12 2010 00:19 GMT
#50
On January 12 2010 03:39 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 03:19 illu wrote:
On January 12 2010 03:11 citi.zen wrote:
On January 12 2010 01:58 akevin wrote:
On January 12 2010 00:07 citi.zen wrote:
Careful with your recommendation letters. What I did was this: asked for the ones I needed + one I never intended to send out. I then opened that one and read the letters myself before sending them out. Keep in mind everyone sends in good letters (inflation of sorts), so even a slightly bad sentence can be magnified in the eyes of an admissions' board.


Aren't most recommendation letters sent via online systems nowadays (all 6 places I applied to were like this)? In addition, even if you are applying via paper application, everywhere I applied to required them in sealed envelopes signed across the back. I know some professors don't mind sharing letters with their students, however I wouldn't count on being able to select the best ones yourself. But it is definitely a good idea to have more than 3 possibilities in case one is busy/away etc.


Right, which is why you ask for an extra one, which you never plan to use and can open...


So you are lying to your professors. I don't think that's ethical.


I am not suggesting you cheat or lie. I am saying you could ask for an extra recommendation, which in no way impacts what the professors write. It simply gives you more information to base your decisions on. If you have a huge problem with that, simply ignore the advice & just read the "good luck". Whatever :-)


What duckett said is correct. It is lying if you try to conceal the truth.

It's also not practical. In my university, the professor gives the letters to the secretary, who will mail them to the appropriate schools. I never get to touch the letters.

On January 12 2010 06:56 TeH_Mentalist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 12:33 illu wrote:
On January 11 2010 12:32 DeathSpank wrote:
hope you have a 4.0+ and a ton of extra curriculars

I am not applying for their medical school though~

medical>their reg school?


That is true. But with my crappy 3.85 GPA I don't I have a chance for Harvard's medical school.
:]
akevin
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada120 Posts
January 12 2010 00:26 GMT
#51
For the most part universities prefer the reference letters sent via electronic methods, and the professors probably also prefer this method as it is faster/easier than printing it out etc. Generally you should have a good idea of how well a prof will recommend you and if you have any doubt, probably best to avoid them.
akevin
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada120 Posts
January 12 2010 00:28 GMT
#52
On January 12 2010 09:19 illu wrote:
That is true. But with my crappy 3.85 GPA I don't I have a chance for Harvard's medical school.


No point in going to the states for medical school...so much cheaper in Canada and extremely hard to get funding (unless you have really rich parents).
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 00:34:41
January 12 2010 00:32 GMT
#53
On January 12 2010 09:28 akevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 09:19 illu wrote:
That is true. But with my crappy 3.85 GPA I don't I have a chance for Harvard's medical school.


No point in going to the states for medical school...so much cheaper in Canada and extremely hard to get funding (unless you have really rich parents).


Well, if University of Toronto takes me for medical school, I'd reconsider my choices about doing a PhD at Harvard (that is, assuming both UofT and Harvard take me for MD and PhD respectively, I will have to make some difficult decisions). However, with my crappy 3.85 GPA I don't think I have a realistic chance of getting in UofT.
:]
akevin
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada120 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 00:47:05
January 12 2010 00:43 GMT
#54
On January 12 2010 09:32 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 09:28 akevin wrote:
On January 12 2010 09:19 illu wrote:
That is true. But with my crappy 3.85 GPA I don't I have a chance for Harvard's medical school.


No point in going to the states for medical school...so much cheaper in Canada and extremely hard to get funding (unless you have really rich parents).


Well, if University of Toronto takes me for medical school, I'd reconsider my choices about doing a PhD at Harvard (that is, assuming both UofT and Harvard take me for MD and PhD respectively, I will have to make some difficult decisions). However, with my crappy 3.85 GPA I don't think I have a realistic chance of getting in UofT.


If you truly are interested in doing medical school I wouldn't restrict yourself to just UofT. Any medical school in Canada is sufficient, and going to UofT does not improve your residency placement or job prospects. In short, I wouldn't recommend applying to the states for medical school, except for improving your chances of getting in due to applying to more schools. Departmental recognition means far less for medical school, unless you have some interest in doing an MD/PhD program?

Edit: Oh and I don't think that GPA would prevent you from getting to UofT, assuming you have amazing extra curric/good MCAT/good interpersonal and interviewing skills/excellent references.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 01:37:23
January 12 2010 01:26 GMT
#55
On January 12 2010 09:43 akevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 09:32 illu wrote:
On January 12 2010 09:28 akevin wrote:
On January 12 2010 09:19 illu wrote:
That is true. But with my crappy 3.85 GPA I don't I have a chance for Harvard's medical school.


No point in going to the states for medical school...so much cheaper in Canada and extremely hard to get funding (unless you have really rich parents).


Well, if University of Toronto takes me for medical school, I'd reconsider my choices about doing a PhD at Harvard (that is, assuming both UofT and Harvard take me for MD and PhD respectively, I will have to make some difficult decisions). However, with my crappy 3.85 GPA I don't think I have a realistic chance of getting in UofT.


If you truly are interested in doing medical school I wouldn't restrict yourself to just UofT. Any medical school in Canada is sufficient, and going to UofT does not improve your residency placement or job prospects. In short, I wouldn't recommend applying to the states for medical school, except for improving your chances of getting in due to applying to more schools. Departmental recognition means far less for medical school, unless you have some interest in doing an MD/PhD program?

Edit: Oh and I don't think that GPA would prevent you from getting to UofT, assuming you have amazing extra curric/good MCAT/good interpersonal and interviewing skills/excellent references.


PhD/MD is in my consideration. But it's an 8 years commitment so I don't want to decide on that right now. In case I really want to do that, however, I can do my PhD first then do MD so I am at no losses.

EDIT: no losses except fundings. I will think about it, but probably not too hard so I won't retract my decision.
:]
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 12 2010 02:17 GMT
#56
Why do you keep saying "crappy 3.85"?
It sounds very pretentious; 3.85 is nowhere near crappy.
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DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
January 12 2010 02:39 GMT
#57
On January 12 2010 11:17 ghostWriter wrote:
Why do you keep saying "crappy 3.85"?
It sounds very pretentious; 3.85 is nowhere near crappy.


This...

Stop being a douche.

No one cares when your complaining is on the level of "Oh man, I hate the gas mileage I get in my Porsche" or "Guy's my dick is too big and girls are too scared so I never have sex, what do?".
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
January 12 2010 02:41 GMT
#58
3.85 is nothing spectacular for top grad school programs either though.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 12 2010 02:42 GMT
#59
On January 12 2010 11:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
3.85 is nothing spectacular for top grad school programs either though.

I'll take a 3.85 any day over what I have. That's a ridiculously high GPA no matter where you go.
God Bless
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 02:58:54
January 12 2010 02:57 GMT
#60
On January 12 2010 11:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
3.85 is nothing spectacular for top grad school programs either though.


Probably not low enough that they want to throw it out immediately. Besides, I am hoping my GPA this semester will improve.

On January 12 2010 11:39 DeathByMonkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 11:17 ghostWriter wrote:
Why do you keep saying "crappy 3.85"?
It sounds very pretentious; 3.85 is nowhere near crappy.


This...

Stop being a douche.

No one cares when your complaining is on the level of "Oh man, I hate the gas mileage I get in my Porsche" or "Guy's my dick is too big and girls are too scared so I never have sex, what do?".


Sorry, is that comment toward me? I hardly think I was being a douche. I was being realistic to the fact that my GPA is not very competitive.
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