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Questions about HDMI/monitors.

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 12:29:20
January 09 2010 12:28 GMT
#1
Well, I've currently got a Hewlett-Packard w2207 which was given to me for Christmas in 2008. It has served me well but I'm thinking of upgradong to a newer monitor.

Reasons are;

1) I hate the 1680x1050 resolution given to me. It feels weird not being able to see 1080p in full resolution.

2) I want to utilize the HDMI port on my laptop.

That being said, I want a monitor with;

1) A HDMI Port
2) Bigger than 22'
3) Native resolution of 1980x1080
4) Doesn't break the bank.

Anyway, the questions are;

1) Are there any clear visual differences between VGA and HDMI?
2) If so, how much of a difference is there?
3) Will HD/1080p videos be much better quality if watched through HDMI than VGA?
4) If I buy a monitor, will it come with a HDMI cable?

Think that is about it.

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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 12:47:39
January 09 2010 12:39 GMT
#2
HDMI is DVI + sound so it's different from VGA. A HDMI port can be connected to a DVI one and vice versa. Regarding the quality, it's very much noticeable and VGA often cause interference with laptops.

As for the monitor, I'd recommend a Samsung syncmaster 245T
Oh wait the resolution is 1900x1200 nvm

And the cables are quite expensive, especially if you want long ones so they usually won't come with the monitor.
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rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
January 09 2010 12:44 GMT
#3
1) +2) HDMI is waaay better than VGA
3) Yup
4) It mostly wont come with a HDMI cable (99%)
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 09 2010 12:49 GMT
#4
P2350 Samsung is a decent cheap screen but no hdmi though

Keep in mind that HDMI is just DVI + audio. So if it's only picture quality that you are after the any 24 inch screen will do.

HDMI is what the shop make their money on so you won't get one with the box (most of the time)

Check out some Taiwanese models. Some of them are good value / price but their warranty are shocking.
Rillanon.au
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 09 2010 12:49 GMT
#5
I dont know why manufacturers make 23 inch monitors but meh. Ive been using Hanns-G for awhile, their good quality at a great price. But I would never recommend using the speakers on these monitors, I tried it on mine, its pretty bad. Sometimes you assume they just shoved it in there for extra cash.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254044

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001341
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 12:51:19
January 09 2010 12:49 GMT
#6
On January 09 2010 21:49 haduken wrote:
P2350 Samsung is a decent cheap screen but no hdmi though

Keep in mind that HDMI is just DVI + audio. So if it's only picture quality that you are after the any 24 inch screen will do.

HDMI is what the shop make their money on so you won't get one with the box (most of the time)

Check out some Taiwanese models. Some of them are good value / price but their warranty are shocking.


Hanns-G baby!

I would also get a monitor lower than 5ms, it can be noticeable when your gaming.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 09 2010 12:50 GMT
#7
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=558_765

anything on this page is fine.

But yeah, be a korean, buy samsung.
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 09 2010 12:52 GMT
#8
You can even get 22 inch monitors with 1080p. But really, for monitors, 1080p is so...
Rillanon.au
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
January 09 2010 12:53 GMT
#9
Don't fall for any of the expensive cables: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/upgrade/4235717.html
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 09 2010 12:53 GMT
#10
Whoops forgot about the GTR not being in the North American/China area.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 09 2010 12:54 GMT
#11
haha monster cables... I love it when the sales person tries to spin that on me.
Rillanon.au
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 13:00:16
January 09 2010 12:59 GMT
#12
On January 09 2010 21:52 haduken wrote:
You can even get 22 inch monitors with 1080p. But really, for monitors, 1080p is so...


Should I just buy one of them Network Streaming thingies then? (Something like the WDTV Live). I have a 68cm Flatscreen CRT sitting in my room as well Would it just be better to buy that than a new monitor (and save a bit of money).
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 09 2010 13:08 GMT
#13
I read somewhere WD TV doesnt have built-in network streaming and requires some fine-tweaking while at it.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 13:09:51
January 09 2010 13:09 GMT
#14
not the old WD TV, the new one WD TV Live which has network streaming.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 09 2010 13:23 GMT
#15
If you cant see the difference between 1080i and 1080p, I dont see why not.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 09 2010 13:37 GMT
#16
On January 09 2010 21:39 Shauni wrote:
HDMI is DVI + sound so it's different from VGA. A HDMI port can be connected to a DVI one and vice versa. Regarding the quality, it's very much noticeable and VGA often cause interference with laptops.

As for the monitor, I'd recommend a Samsung syncmaster 245T
Oh wait the resolution is 1900x1200 nvm

And the cables are quite expensive, especially if you want long ones so they usually won't come with the monitor.

http://www.firefold.com/HDMI-to-HDMI-Cables-C485.aspx

range from 4$ to 20$ for really good cables. Refresh rate/transfer rate on the cables don't really matter. That shit happens inside the TV/Monitor.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 09 2010 14:15 GMT
#17
anything less than 42 (correct me if i'm wrong) inch screen will not tell the different between 1080i and 1080p.

Modern LCD TVs come with HDMI port anyway.

WD Live is pretty good.
Rillanon.au
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 14:22:26
January 09 2010 14:20 GMT
#18
I think you will need something 23''+. Since its cheap anyway.
Look for it on Newegg. I am not gonna recommend any specific brand here because the choices are so vast and most of them are same quality.
But there are few things you should pay attention before buying:
1. Make sure buy the 16 : 9 ratio one.
2. Make sure that your laptop graphic card is capable of playing 1920x1080. If your laptop has a onboard graphic card, it will most likely can not play lag-less at 1080p.
3. Monitors usually dont come with HDMI
4. Dony buy cheap HDMI cable, since HDMI interface is very sensitive of the quality of HDMI cable.
For HDMI I recommend you buy Sony's.
5. VGA and HDMI in someway is identical proven that you have your source at 1080p but HDMI should have better colors.
6. The last thing is, unless you are watching bluray from your laptop(which is unlikely) I dont think 1080p video is worth it( assume that you download these video from the internet). Just download the 720p one. 720p is a big jump from DVD quality video as well and It put much less pressure on the laptop .
Terran
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
January 09 2010 14:57 GMT
#19
On January 09 2010 21:54 haduken wrote:
haha monster cables... I love it when the sales person tries to spin that on me.


I will say this though, the monster cables are really nice for my electric guitar.

Don't waste the money on a digital medium like HDMI, it's just 1's and 0's and it either works or it doesn't. Now for sending analog signals from your electric guitar to a vintage vacuum tube amp, I'd recommend the extra dough.
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Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
January 09 2010 15:47 GMT
#20
Yeah, I don't think there's any difference between expensive and cheap digital cables, its pretty much impossible to get a bit loss.
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