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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
January 07 2010 03:20 GMT
#1
So I finally grabbed my balls and told the girl everything. She actually took it pretty well. The only problem is that its confusing now, but we promised to not make things weird between us. YAY

She said stuff like, "If I did like you, would we go out?" The problem with this is that as much as I love her, I don't think I could treat her the way I wanted to. Also, here, the Korean community is very small and so gossip and this stuff spills fast. At church, there are already alot of couples, I don't want to be just another one of those. I'm not sure how parents would take it in, her mom is really scary!
Then, when she was about to leave, she said that again, like "Even if I did like you, we wouldn't go out, right?" And then I told her again, I would love to but I don't think I could treat you the way you deserve. Luckily, we will talk some more about this. I hope it goes well!!

Ah, but she said she has to think about it, which I don't really like hearing. If she liked me back, I'm sure she would've said so. But hearing her say that makes me think she's forcing herself to try to like me

There was also alot of misunderstanding that was cleared up. People used to make fun of us and say that we were dating, and she didn't want people to do that because she thought they would make me like her in a superficial way, but in fact that's a big no no :D I told her that I liked her because she changed me in so many ways. As I started to like her more and more, I started to realize that if I'm going to like a girl and want to treat her well, I should learn to treat the women in my life better, such as my mother and my little sister. She also helped me realize what kind of guy I want to be for a girl, even if it's not her.


I used to be really insecure about all of this, but I'm glad I told her. I also took some of the advice from the members, thanks!


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MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
January 07 2010 03:27 GMT
#2
Congrats man, I'm on this kind of situation right now, I don't know if telling her is the best idea though =(, I too feel that I can't make her happy which makes me so fucking sad.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
January 07 2010 03:32 GMT
#3
On January 07 2010 12:27 MeriaDoKk wrote:
Congrats man, I'm on this kind of situation right now, I don't know if telling her is the best idea though =(, I too feel that I can't make her happy which makes me so fucking sad.



Haha, you know, the things that most girls want though is your heart and mind, not materials.


Or at least the girl I like, hehe. I'm so glad she's not materalistic, it makes me want to treat her even better. Unfortunately, I don't think I can
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
January 07 2010 03:35 GMT
#4
God it feels awful, and to make it even worst, we are changing the place where we work, so I'm not gonna see her anymore.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
January 07 2010 03:41 GMT
#5
On January 07 2010 12:35 MeriaDoKk wrote:
God it feels awful, and to make it even worst, we are changing the place where we work, so I'm not gonna see her anymore.



Well we live in a place of high technology!
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
January 07 2010 03:49 GMT
#6
Well I think that, "but if I liked you we would date right?" could go both ways. She either is looking for general assurance that she can get a guy she likes or she really does like you and is just being hesitant. Did she say she would think about dating or if she liked you? In my experience most girls will straight up tell you that they just wanna be friends. Unless this girl has an intention of playing you/indefinitely cliffhanging you, then I think your odds are already better than most of these same situations. It's dangerous though man. She seems nice and might not have been able to bring herself to say that she didn't have feelings for you.

Also, if you want this to go through AT ALL, you need to immediately throw the "I can't do well enough for her" mentality out of the window. What makes you even think this? It seems like half the reason is really due to the social stigma of it (in your eyes). People are gonna date dude. And they will date a lot. Your church having a lot of couples is just normal. Just because you have a girlfriend and attend the same church as other people with girlfriends, doesn't mean you are automatically the same as them. You post on TL.net. Once she follows you have no chance of being the same.
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
January 07 2010 04:05 GMT
#7
My advice is don't do the cordial gentlemanly thing. ie "I would love to but I don't think I could treat you the way you deserve." Don't do that.

Girls want a man to lead them. A better answer is anything direct, even "Yea of course we'd go out" is better than what you said.

I don't even know if you want advice but yea, step 1 looks good so far.

Oh yea also don't show your entire hand right off the bat. Sometimes it's great to be mr. sensitive but I wouldn't open with "I told her that I liked her because she changed me in so many ways. As I started to like her more and more, I started to realize that if I'm going to like a girl and want to treat her well, I should learn to treat the women in my life better, such as my mother and my little sister. She also helped me realize what kind of guy I want to be for a girl, even if it's not her" that kind of stuff.
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
January 07 2010 04:06 GMT
#8
Congrats, man. I hope you come back with more good news.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 04:16:35
January 07 2010 04:13 GMT
#9
On January 07 2010 12:49 Romance_us wrote:
Well I think that, "but if I liked you we would date right?" could go both ways. She either is looking for general assurance that she can get a guy she likes or she really does like you and is just being hesitant. Did she say she would think about dating or if she liked you? In my experience most girls will straight up tell you that they just wanna be friends. Unless this girl has an intention of playing you/indefinitely cliffhanging you, then I think your odds are already better than most of these same situations. It's dangerous though man. She seems nice and might not have been able to bring herself to say that she didn't have feelings for you.

Also, if you want this to go through AT ALL, you need to immediately throw the "I can't do well enough for her" mentality out of the window. What makes you even think this? It seems like half the reason is really due to the social stigma of it (in your eyes). People are gonna date dude. And they will date a lot. Your church having a lot of couples is just normal. Just because you have a girlfriend and attend the same church as other people with girlfriends, doesn't mean you are automatically the same as them. You post on TL.net. Once she follows you have no chance of being the same.



Haha thanks. Yeah, she thought I liked her because people sort of forced it, and honestly, though it's been a part of it, its not the only reason, which is maybe why she asked that? I hope she's not teasing, or being nice, I want her to be truthful, and staying as friends is better than a fake relationship.

And what do you mean by once she follows me, I have no chance of being the same?

On January 07 2010 13:05 Chill wrote:
My advice is don't do the cordial gentlemanly thing. ie "I would love to but I don't think I could treat you the way you deserve." Don't do that.

Girls want a man to lead them. A better answer is anything direct, even "Yea of course we'd go out" is better than what you said.

I don't even know if you want advice but yea, step 1 looks good so far.

Oh yea also don't show your entire hand right off the bat. Sometimes it's great to be mr. sensitive but I wouldn't open with "I told her that I liked her because she changed me in so many ways. As I started to like her more and more, I started to realize that if I'm going to like a girl and want to treat her well, I should learn to treat the women in my life better, such as my mother and my little sister. She also helped me realize what kind of guy I want to be for a girl, even if it's not her" that kind of stuff.



Well, I didn't want to ask her out, as I knew she wouldn't say yes. I figured that maybe telling her how I felt and ways she's changed me would sort of help her realize how much I liked her? She sort of thinks that she's just another girl, I think. We're both going to college after this year, and she said that there will be other girls. Fortunately, I don't think that way at all. :D


On January 07 2010 13:06 El.Divino wrote:
Congrats, man. I hope you come back with more good news.


Haha thank you, I really appreciate it
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 07 2010 04:18 GMT
#10
when you say "im not good for you" it makes them think that you're smart enough to know that, and they like it
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 07 2010 04:20 GMT
#11
On January 07 2010 13:06 El.Divino wrote:
Congrats, man. I hope you come back with more good news.

yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 04:21:49
January 07 2010 04:21 GMT
#12
negative a billion respect for anyone girly enough to not date someone cause they dont think they can flower them with love or some gay shit like that. Your just fooling yourself man. You were too scared to tell her you liked her, and now your bullshitting yourself so you dont have to take the step of actually asking her out and potentially getting rejected.

You really should be ashamed. Hopefully that shame will result in a courageous decision, for good or ill.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
January 07 2010 04:29 GMT
#13
Good luck bro!
Dumb logic here but here goes.
Sometimes girl think how a guy would react if he knew she liked her a lot. As in it makes her look easy, etc. they're sensitive too!
So maybe she said she'll think about it to not show "her full hand". Even though she indeed does like you back.
Karma is a bitch
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 07 2010 04:32 GMT
#14
On January 07 2010 13:21 yhnmk wrote:
negative a billion respect for anyone girly enough to not date someone cause they dont think they can flower them with love or some gay shit like that. Your just fooling yourself man. You were too scared to tell her you liked her, and now your bullshitting yourself so you dont have to take the step of actually asking her out and potentially getting rejected.

You really should be ashamed. Hopefully that shame will result in a courageous decision, for good or ill.


From the way the guy is talking about this relationship, I'm guessing its more of a real, soul-touching, relationship than a quickie high school (or even some college) one.

Not all women want to be manned around, some are more independent and feel that they deserve more respect than they get from most of their casual friends-that-are-boys.

I'm not saying that this is the case with this girl, cause I really have no background info, but if she was that kind of girl then he'd be perfectly justified.
Hey! Listen!
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
January 07 2010 04:33 GMT
#15
Like Chill said, you definitely haven't come anywhere close to growing big bowling balls yet. You're on the way there, but not quite. Dancing around the issue, hemming, hawing, that sort of thing is traditionally for women. As the guy, you should really step up to bat and show her you mean what you say.

If you like her, then be like yeah, I like you and I want to take you out. Saying something like "I have feelings for you but think I'm not good enough for you," is kind of like taking a big dookie on yourself in front of her. And the fact she's not outright dropping you should be MORE than enough indication that she likes you. Are you kidding, man? A girl who's not interested is going to flat out say "no, let's just be friends," or "uh......." and then walk away. A girl who's sitting here like ok, yeah, you like me, nice, ok let's start hypothesizing about how we're going to carry this into the future, is a girl who's VERY interested. She just has no clue how to handle it. You need to step up and lead the way.

Of course, I got nothing to go off except what you share, but I think you're reading her wrong. She likes you a lot. If she didn't, there'd be no worry at all in her mind about what to do. She could just avoid you like the plague or put you firmly in the friend seat. She's telling you she likes you. Women can't just jump on you and grab on with both legs. They gotta look reserved. Don't be fooled by the facade.

She's going home to think about how to jump your bones without looking slutty. That's what I think. Stop putting her in that position and ask her out already. Poor girl ended up falling for a guy without enough spine! Take pity on her and yourself!
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
January 07 2010 04:38 GMT
#16
On January 07 2010 13:32 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 13:21 yhnmk wrote:
negative a billion respect for anyone girly enough to not date someone cause they dont think they can flower them with love or some gay shit like that. Your just fooling yourself man. You were too scared to tell her you liked her, and now your bullshitting yourself so you dont have to take the step of actually asking her out and potentially getting rejected.

You really should be ashamed. Hopefully that shame will result in a courageous decision, for good or ill.


From the way the guy is talking about this relationship, I'm guessing its more of a real, soul-touching, relationship than a quickie high school (or even some college) one.

Not all women want to be manned around, some are more independent and feel that they deserve more respect than they get from most of their casual friends-that-are-boys.

I'm not saying that this is the case with this girl, cause I really have no background info, but if she was that kind of girl then he'd be perfectly justified.
cowardice is never justified, are you kidding me? He loves her apparently, even IF you turn out to be unworthy generally or to her incredibly high standards, or rejection is almost certain, its bitching out if you dont actually fucking try. At the very least it would build character and prepare him for future fuck ups in major relationships.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
January 07 2010 04:48 GMT
#17
I'm a bit confused. You say you can't treat her the way you'd want to, but you'd have to know what that treatment is in order to know this. In light of the fact that you know how you want to treat her, why the fuck not just treat her like that?
Oh no
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
January 07 2010 04:57 GMT
#18
On January 07 2010 13:48 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
I'm a bit confused. You say you can't treat her the way you'd want to, but you'd have to know what that treatment is in order to know this. In light of the fact that you know how you want to treat her, why the fuck not just treat her like that?



Haha, money and stuff. Even though she's not materalistic, I mean, I still want to treat her well you know?
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
January 07 2010 05:03 GMT
#19
On January 07 2010 13:38 yhnmk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 13:32 Navi wrote:
On January 07 2010 13:21 yhnmk wrote:
negative a billion respect for anyone girly enough to not date someone cause they dont think they can flower them with love or some gay shit like that. Your just fooling yourself man. You were too scared to tell her you liked her, and now your bullshitting yourself so you dont have to take the step of actually asking her out and potentially getting rejected.

You really should be ashamed. Hopefully that shame will result in a courageous decision, for good or ill.


From the way the guy is talking about this relationship, I'm guessing its more of a real, soul-touching, relationship than a quickie high school (or even some college) one.

Not all women want to be manned around, some are more independent and feel that they deserve more respect than they get from most of their casual friends-that-are-boys.

I'm not saying that this is the case with this girl, cause I really have no background info, but if she was that kind of girl then he'd be perfectly justified.
cowardice is never justified, are you kidding me? He loves her apparently, even IF you turn out to be unworthy generally or to her incredibly high standards, or rejection is almost certain, its bitching out if you dont actually fucking try. At the very least it would build character and prepare him for future fuck ups in major relationships.



I'm confused by this post...
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
January 07 2010 05:18 GMT
#20
On January 07 2010 14:03 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 13:38 yhnmk wrote:
On January 07 2010 13:32 Navi wrote:
On January 07 2010 13:21 yhnmk wrote:
negative a billion respect for anyone girly enough to not date someone cause they dont think they can flower them with love or some gay shit like that. Your just fooling yourself man. You were too scared to tell her you liked her, and now your bullshitting yourself so you dont have to take the step of actually asking her out and potentially getting rejected.

You really should be ashamed. Hopefully that shame will result in a courageous decision, for good or ill.


From the way the guy is talking about this relationship, I'm guessing its more of a real, soul-touching, relationship than a quickie high school (or even some college) one.

Not all women want to be manned around, some are more independent and feel that they deserve more respect than they get from most of their casual friends-that-are-boys.

I'm not saying that this is the case with this girl, cause I really have no background info, but if she was that kind of girl then he'd be perfectly justified.
cowardice is never justified, are you kidding me? He loves her apparently, even IF you turn out to be unworthy generally or to her incredibly high standards, or rejection is almost certain, its bitching out if you dont actually fucking try. At the very least it would build character and prepare him for future fuck ups in major relationships.



I'm confused by this post...



what hes trying to say is quit being a pussy
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