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statix
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States1760 Posts
December 31 2009 05:32 GMT
#101
On December 31 2009 14:29 dogabutila wrote:
Oh and, while primarily a WC player, and the other notables Bruce Lee trained in that everybody knows (epee and western boxing), he also trained WTCC, TT, and something else I am forgetting. Mantis style I believe he had some form of knowledge in. I think Inosanto said he also had some knowledge of Jujitsu but I have no idea where he might have picked it up.


Can you key me into some of those abbreviations. I don't think
bruce ever actually trained JJ. I know inosanto did but only much later in his life.
SCC-Caliban
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1438 Posts
December 31 2009 05:36 GMT
#102
On December 31 2009 14:21 statix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 14:01 dogabutila wrote:

Not true for 2 reasons, back when tyson was good, his closing speed was rediculously fast. Second, tyson was famous for his hook, but he also like the short uppercut that would be killer to a double leg attempt.



It's hard to call since we can't turn back time and enter Tyson into UFC 1 but it's pretty dang hard to avoid any kind of takedown when you've never seen one in your life. Maybe Tyson would have landed the uppercut, maybe he woudnt have. Who knows hah



This is very true, if Tyson never knew what to expect he would probably lose. I'm thinking though, it would be atleast fair to tell him what to expect // show him video since thats what people normally do before matches anyways.
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dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1438 Posts
December 31 2009 05:49 GMT
#103
On December 31 2009 14:32 statix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 14:29 dogabutila wrote:
Oh and, while primarily a WC player, and the other notables Bruce Lee trained in that everybody knows (epee and western boxing), he also trained WTCC, TT, and something else I am forgetting. Mantis style I believe he had some form of knowledge in. I think Inosanto said he also had some knowledge of Jujitsu but I have no idea where he might have picked it up.


Can you key me into some of those abbreviations. I don't think
bruce ever actually trained JJ. I know inosanto did but only much later in his life.



Maybe inosanto confused judo with JJ.
WTCC is a combat form of tai chi chuan (wu tai chi chaun). In HK we call it Nga.
Tam Toi - or specifically what he did Jing Mo Tam Tui is a northern chinese martial art. For reference BL was from HK which you know, is southern. The MA's are actually rather different between the two.
I think he might have also trained xingyiquan (another northern style). I don't remember what it is that I am forgetting, that might have been it.
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Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
December 31 2009 08:24 GMT
#104
On December 31 2009 14:24 Manit0u wrote:
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On December 31 2009 14:01 Freyr wrote:
It's a shame it seemed like Yoshida never really took MMA very seriously, though he did have one or two good fights.

He is fighting again this new years eve vs Satoshi Ishii (who won Judo olympic gold in 2008 and retired from Judo shortly thereafter to enter MMA). This will be Ishii's debut in MMA, but most people expect him to crush Yoshida.


One or two? He's pretty decent and still active in MMA it seems:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidehiko_Yoshida#MMA_record

And don't dismiss Yoshida over Judo olympic gold. He got olympic gold, WC gold, 2x silver and 1x bronze. He probably knows a trick or two.


Good was the key word. I know he's had more fights.

Nazgul just recently made a post in the UFC 108 thread referencing exactly what I'm talking about:

Yoshida has always looked bloated at 205 but I haven't been able to find pictures of the weighin yet. Ishii is young and in his prime training with great MMA camps such as Xtreme Couture and ATT. Yoshida on the other hand has always remained a judo-brawler in MMA and never could or never bothered to become anything but that, seemingly being satisfied with his already set super-star status in Japan.


Basically, it seems that Yoshida could have done more than he did. I don't know what you mean about dismissing him over olympic gold - I am aware of Yoshida's Judo accomplishments. Don't get me wrong - I have always liked Yoshida (as a fighter) - he just hasn't performed all that well save in a few fights. (I am differentiating between winning and performing well here)

Glad you are a fan though - I have always enjoyed watching Judo in mma.
Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
December 31 2009 08:27 GMT
#105
On December 31 2009 14:49 dogabutila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 14:32 statix wrote:
On December 31 2009 14:29 dogabutila wrote:
Oh and, while primarily a WC player, and the other notables Bruce Lee trained in that everybody knows (epee and western boxing), he also trained WTCC, TT, and something else I am forgetting. Mantis style I believe he had some form of knowledge in. I think Inosanto said he also had some knowledge of Jujitsu but I have no idea where he might have picked it up.


Can you key me into some of those abbreviations. I don't think
bruce ever actually trained JJ. I know inosanto did but only much later in his life.



Maybe inosanto confused judo with JJ.
WTCC is a combat form of tai chi chuan (wu tai chi chaun). In HK we call it Nga.
Tam Toi - or specifically what he did Jing Mo Tam Tui is a northern chinese martial art. For reference BL was from HK which you know, is southern. The MA's are actually rather different between the two.
I think he might have also trained xingyiquan (another northern style). I don't remember what it is that I am forgetting, that might have been it.


The confusion would be common enough, but I think it's well known that Inosanto studied BJJ (wikipedia says he did so under the Machado family).
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1438 Posts
January 01 2010 04:47 GMT
#106
Thats true, but I think inosanto studied BJJ after he made the quote. That is, when he made the quote he probably had little to no knowledge of either judo or BJJ.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17800 Posts
January 02 2010 03:31 GMT
#107
Fedor studied Judo. All you need to know.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
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