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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 03:45:50
December 12 2009 03:42 GMT
#1
I have a confession to make.
Over the past 2 weeks of intense exam preparations (and slacking off), I developed a strong "addiction" to one TV Drama: Law & Order (just the original series, not SVU or CI; UK is OK though).

If you have never watched this show before, try this one; it's one of my favourite episodes (there are a lot more if you google carefully enough:

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=4FBDR1RY

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The part where Cutter used the Federal Government's Gag Order to his advantage was seriously mind-fucking xD.


So, during the last two weeks I have watched the complete 16th Season (that's 22 episodes, 43 minutes each... almost 16 hours of my time that were supposed to be used for studying) and I am still hungry for more. I think I need to "buy" more after my last exam on Tuesday!

What is scarier is that I actually had some consideration of trying out for law school because the show gave me such a good impression of lawyers (at least the lawyers in the DA's office... ). This is a scary thought because I have never had any career considerations solely based on a TV show; and that LSAT will slaughter me so I probably won't become a lawyer even if I try.

Anyways, this ends my rant. Sorry if it was too long. Back to probability theory for me.


*
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jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
December 12 2009 03:46 GMT
#2
eh you're only averaging a little over one hour a day to Law & Order. I wouldn't call that much of an addiction by any means, but try out for LSATs if you are interested. Some people are just good at it..
NFL2368
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States112 Posts
December 12 2009 03:50 GMT
#3
Criminal Minds is the best crime drama out there

Seriously, check it out now if you haven't already

illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 03:54:01
December 12 2009 03:53 GMT
#4
On December 12 2009 12:50 NFL2368 wrote:
Criminal Minds is the best crime drama out there

Seriously, check it out now if you haven't already



Well, Law & Order is half crime investigation, half crime persecution. I like the persecution part (this relates to my interests to lawyers and law school)

On December 12 2009 12:46 jiabung wrote:
try out for LSATs if you are interested. Some people are just good at it..

Considering how I barely get Bs for English classes in highschool, I'm afraid that I have to pass on that one.
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Jerebread
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada115 Posts
December 12 2009 03:53 GMT
#5
You don't watch SVU? That's the best one imo.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 03:56:57
December 12 2009 03:56 GMT
#6
On December 12 2009 12:53 Jerebread wrote:
You don't watch SVU? That's the best one imo.


I watched some SVU. The thing is, SVU is about detectives (Elliot and Bensen), while (half of) the original series is about persecution where people go to court. I find the part of the court hearing more interesting than the duo E&B and their werid relationship.
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Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
December 12 2009 04:23 GMT
#7
On December 12 2009 12:56 illu wrote:
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On December 12 2009 12:53 Jerebread wrote:
You don't watch SVU? That's the best one imo.


I watched some SVU. The thing is, SVU is about detectives (Elliot and Bensen), while (half of) the original series is about persecution where people go to court. I find the part of the court hearing more interesting than the duo E&B and their werid relationship.

The later episodes definitely played off the E&B relationship too much, which is why I personally switched to CI, but the some of the earlier episodes were amazing. SVU brings up a lot of interesting issues and really screws with your morals.

In any case as long as you're not comparing it to the CSI crap, it's all good.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 12 2009 04:54 GMT
#8
I'm in law school right now and I have to say, though I still love Law and Order, I take the lawyering/litigation part of the show much less seriously now. The most hilarious part is how judges give all their decisions on important motions on seemingly a whim, without explaining themselves at all.

Can we just talk about how fucking hot Alana de la Garza is? Thank god that blonde chick (her name on the show was…Serena Southerlyn?) is gone.

[image loading]


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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 05:05:21
December 12 2009 05:03 GMT
#9
On December 12 2009 13:54 JWD wrote:
I'm in law school right now and I have to say, though I still love Law and Order, I take the lawyering/litigation part of the show much less seriously now. The most hilarious part is how judges give all their decisions on important motions on seemingly a whim, without explaining themselves at all.

Can we just talk about how fucking hot Alana de la Garza is? Thank god that blonde chick (her name on the show was…Serena Southerlyn?) is gone.

[image loading]




Alana de la Garza is in Season 19 and 20, as far as I know, as Cutter's assistant Connie. I love her xD

Defense Lawyer: Did you have sex with my client?
Connie: Yes.


Although I do think the judges explain (at least to my ears) why they make the decisions - sometimes I don't understand what they say, though.

For example one time a judge mentioned the balancing test and I was like wtf??? So cut them some slack the producer doesn't want to give the majority of the audiences huge question marks on top of their heads.

EDIT: are you talking about Annie Parisse? Well...
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 05:13:25
December 12 2009 05:12 GMT
#10
On December 12 2009 14:03 illu wrote:
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On December 12 2009 13:54 JWD wrote:
I'm in law school right now and I have to say, though I still love Law and Order, I take the lawyering/litigation part of the show much less seriously now. The most hilarious part is how judges give all their decisions on important motions on seemingly a whim, without explaining themselves at all.

Can we just talk about how fucking hot Alana de la Garza is? Thank god that blonde chick (her name on the show was…Serena Southerlyn?) is gone.

[image loading]




Alana de la Garza is in Season 19 and 20, as far as I know, as Cutter's assistant Connie. I love her xD

Show nested quote +
Defense Lawyer: Did you have sex with my client?
Connie: Yes.


Although I do think the judges explain (at least to my ears) why they make the decisions - sometimes I don't understand what they say, though.

For example one time a judge mentioned the balancing test and I was like wtf??? So cut them some slack the producer doesn't want to give the majority of the audiences huge question marks on top of their heads.

EDIT: are you talking about Annie Parisse? Well...

Nope I was talking about this woman, apparently her (real) name is Elizabeth Rohm:

[image loading]


Her acting was subpar (even compared to the other actresses who have played the ADA's assistant…lol) and I never found her attractive. This role was made for a brunette.

Yep the only episode I've seen this season (set my Tivo to record all of em, but maybe that was the last of the season?) is the one where Connie has to admit to sleeping with that mafioso lawyer. That was a good episode, and of course the idea that she's willing to get involved with her colleagues makes her character even more intriguing.

The show really hit rock bottom in the 2006 season I think (that's when I stopped watching), between Detective Fontana and that blonde chick right there I really couldn't take it anymore. Not to mention that the writers decided to get annoyingly political with every single episode. But after watching that episode from the most recent season I became convinced that the show has had a renaissance. I love Sam Waterston as DA (seems appropriate given the show's history) and I even like the new detectives. Jury's still out on Cutter.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 05:19:11
December 12 2009 05:18 GMT
#11
On December 12 2009 14:12 JWD wrote:
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On December 12 2009 14:03 illu wrote:
On December 12 2009 13:54 JWD wrote:
I'm in law school right now and I have to say, though I still love Law and Order, I take the lawyering/litigation part of the show much less seriously now. The most hilarious part is how judges give all their decisions on important motions on seemingly a whim, without explaining themselves at all.

Can we just talk about how fucking hot Alana de la Garza is? Thank god that blonde chick (her name on the show was…Serena Southerlyn?) is gone.

[image loading]




Alana de la Garza is in Season 19 and 20, as far as I know, as Cutter's assistant Connie. I love her xD

Defense Lawyer: Did you have sex with my client?
Connie: Yes.


Although I do think the judges explain (at least to my ears) why they make the decisions - sometimes I don't understand what they say, though.

For example one time a judge mentioned the balancing test and I was like wtf??? So cut them some slack the producer doesn't want to give the majority of the audiences huge question marks on top of their heads.

EDIT: are you talking about Annie Parisse? Well...

Nope I was talking about this woman, apparently her (real) name is Elizabeth Rohm:

[image loading]


Her acting was subpar (even compared to the other actresses who have played the ADA's assistant…lol) and I never found her attractive. This role was made for a brunette.

Yep the only episode I've seen this season (set my Tivo to record all of em, but maybe that was the last of the season?) is the one where Connie has to admit to sleeping with that mafioso lawyer. That was a good episode, and of course the idea that she's willing to get involved with her colleagues makes her character even more intriguing.

The show really hit rock bottom in the 2006 season I think (that's when I stopped watching), between Detective Fontana and that blonde chick right there I really couldn't take it anymore. Not to mention that the writers decided to get annoyingly political with every single episode. But after watching that episode from the most recent season I became convinced that the show has had a renaissance. I love Sam Waterston as DA (seems appropriate given the show's history) and I even like the new detectives. Jury's still out on Cutter.


2006.... I have not seen that blond person so I guess I never watched that season. Good for me I guess :D

Speaking of detectives, it seems that they always want a black detective, who does all of the running, capturing, and other dirty works while the white guy just stand and watch. DX
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SOB_Maj_Brian
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States522 Posts
December 12 2009 05:26 GMT
#12
Law school its so much fun!! You don't need good english skillz, just be a patent lawyer! Besides the LSAT isn't just about english, its about argumentation and logic games!
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 05:30:53
December 12 2009 05:30 GMT
#13
On December 12 2009 14:26 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
Law school its so much fun!! You don't need good english skillz, just be a patent lawyer! Besides the LSAT isn't just about english, its about argumentation and logic games!


Mmm.... Maybe I will do some research on this. My main interest is still PhD/MD though.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 12 2009 05:38 GMT
#14
On December 12 2009 14:30 illu wrote:
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On December 12 2009 14:26 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
Law school its so much fun!! You don't need good english skillz, just be a patent lawyer! Besides the LSAT isn't just about english, its about argumentation and logic games!


Mmm.... Maybe I will do some research on this. My main interest is still PhD/MD though.

You don't need good english skills for law school? I strongly disagree. All you do in law school is read and write.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
December 12 2009 05:40 GMT
#15
I'm a L&O fanatic. I think I've seen every episode, bar a couple from the past two seasons.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 12 2009 05:44 GMT
#16
On December 12 2009 14:40 BroOd wrote:
I'm a L&O fanatic. I think I've seen every episode, bar a couple from the past two seasons.

So? Hottest assistant to the ADA???

My vote goes to Angie Harmon…something about that raspy voice…

toofine
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 12 2009 05:45 GMT
#17
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I mean SERIOUSLY
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 12 2009 05:59 GMT
#18
Rohm's vocal inflection was what killed her, she always sounded flat.

The current SVU ADA is pretty good
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but Connie's the most smokin' one in law and order history. She was partnered with Jack McCoy before Cutter. I'd say she had the most to do with reviving the franchise, she can act and she always has this aggressive edge to her.

The best detectives were Briscoe and Green. Lupo's solid. Cutter's solid, although McCoy on when he gets on his pulpit is untouchable.

SVU is ok, but it's more of a show driven by the detectives' characters.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
December 12 2009 06:03 GMT
#19
Well, Alana is probably the hottest, but Angie Harmon is definitely a close second, and far above third place (probably Jill Hennessey?).
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
December 12 2009 06:06 GMT
#20
I'm not a huge fan of "DA McCoy", either.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 06:11:54
December 12 2009 06:07 GMT
#21
On December 12 2009 15:03 BroOd wrote:
Well, Alana is probably the hottest, but Angie Harmon is definitely a close second, and far above third place (probably Jill Hennessey?).

I hear ya on 3rd place being far behind…Hennessy was just decent in her day. It's hard to evaluate her because she was on the show long enough ago that her looks are dated.

[image loading]

90s style!!

Personally I'd pick Annie Parisse for 3rd, even though she was pretty awful as far as acting goes.
[image loading]
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
December 12 2009 06:07 GMT
#22
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 12 2009 06:08 GMT
#23
Alana somehow acts hot, so even her photos never seem to do her justice. I'd put henessy second, but haven't seen those in awhile.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 12 2009 06:09 GMT
#24
On December 12 2009 15:06 BroOd wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of "DA McCoy", either.

Really? I was getting sort of tired of him as ADA. I think the show (or TV in general) sort of outgrew his pontificating. In the 2000s we're all so sensitive about moral issues that to watch any TV actor talk about them with conviction is uncomfortable.

McCoy as ADA made the show for so many years, but his character got kind of stale. Plus I always hoped he'd make the jump to DA, it's a good career move for him
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 12 2009 06:10 GMT
#25
On December 12 2009 15:08 igotmyown wrote:
Alana somehow acts hot, so even her photos never seem to do her justice.

this is so true haha, I went looking for pics of her and realized that the main reason she's so hot on the show is because of how she carries herself
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
December 12 2009 06:12 GMT
#26
On December 12 2009 15:07 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 15:03 BroOd wrote:
Well, Alana is probably the hottest, but Angie Harmon is definitely a close second, and far above third place (probably Jill Hennessey?).

I hear ya on 3rd place being far behind…Hennessy was just decent in her day. It's hard to evaluate her because she was on the show long enough ago that her looks are dated.

[image loading]

90s style!!

Personally I'd pick Annie Parisse for 3rd, even though she was pretty awful as far as acting goes.
[image loading]


Oh god, she's so bad. There's one scene with her and McCoy in chambers where evidence is about to get thrown out (due to Fontana's misconduct) and she wrangles some "inevitable discovery" loophole, and McCoy says like, "Excellent, Alex", but her character is "conflicted" and she delivers this line like, "I don't want to talk about it", like she's some 14 year old girl after a breakup. It's so bad, I just cringe every time I think about it.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
December 12 2009 06:14 GMT
#27
On December 12 2009 15:09 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 15:06 BroOd wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of "DA McCoy", either.

Really? I was getting sort of tired of him as ADA. I think the show (or TV in general) sort of outgrew his pontificating. In the 2000s we're all so sensitive about moral issues that to watch any TV actor talk about them with conviction is uncomfortable.

McCoy as ADA made the show for so many years, but his character got kind of stale. Plus I always hoped he'd make the jump to DA, it's a good career move for him


Yeah, his character now is sort of the logical extension of the old McCoy, grumpier, impatient and more of a bully, but I would've almost preferred the character leave the show than become that considering what he was in the earlier seasons.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 12 2009 06:16 GMT
#28
On December 12 2009 15:12 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 15:07 JWD wrote:
On December 12 2009 15:03 BroOd wrote:
Well, Alana is probably the hottest, but Angie Harmon is definitely a close second, and far above third place (probably Jill Hennessey?).

I hear ya on 3rd place being far behind…Hennessy was just decent in her day. It's hard to evaluate her because she was on the show long enough ago that her looks are dated.

[image loading]

90s style!!

Personally I'd pick Annie Parisse for 3rd, even though she was pretty awful as far as acting goes.
[image loading]


Oh god, she's so bad. There's one scene with her and McCoy in chambers where evidence is about to get thrown out (due to Fontana's misconduct) and she wrangles some "inevitable discovery" loophole, and McCoy says like, "Excellent, Alex", but her character is "conflicted" and she delivers this line like, "I don't want to talk about it", like she's some 14 year old girl after a breakup. It's so bad, I just cringe every time I think about it.

did you know she first appeared on the show as the prostitute GF of a mafioso character? When I saw that episode I was like…wow, good career move honey: one day you're taking a break from turning tricks to testify against your bf, the next you've landed a job with the ADA that was cross-examining you
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
December 12 2009 06:19 GMT
#29
Yeah, she was a stripper, a friend of the stripper who was murdered or something.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
December 12 2009 06:25 GMT
#30
On December 12 2009 15:10 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 15:08 igotmyown wrote:
Alana somehow acts hot, so even her photos never seem to do her justice.

this is so true haha, I went looking for pics of her and realized that the main reason she's so hot on the show is because of how she carries herself

Yeah, for whatever reason her looks don't translate nearly as well as they should to pictures. I mean, she still looks hot, but not like she does in the show, where she seems practically flawless.
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
December 12 2009 06:25 GMT
#31
Law and Order: CI Vincent D'onofrio
Nuff said.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
December 12 2009 06:29 GMT
#32
On December 12 2009 15:25 selboN wrote:
Law and Order: CI Vincent D'onofrio
Nuff said.

reeeeeeeeeally hit or miss. Some episodes he's really sharp, but some it's just too over the top, with that exaggerated lean and maddening cadence during his investigates and interrogations.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
December 12 2009 06:33 GMT
#33
On December 12 2009 15:12 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 15:07 JWD wrote:
On December 12 2009 15:03 BroOd wrote:
Well, Alana is probably the hottest, but Angie Harmon is definitely a close second, and far above third place (probably Jill Hennessey?).

I hear ya on 3rd place being far behind…Hennessy was just decent in her day. It's hard to evaluate her because she was on the show long enough ago that her looks are dated.

[image loading]

90s style!!

Personally I'd pick Annie Parisse for 3rd, even though she was pretty awful as far as acting goes.
[image loading]


Oh god, she's so bad. There's one scene with her and McCoy in chambers where evidence is about to get thrown out (due to Fontana's misconduct) and she wrangles some "inevitable discovery" loophole, and McCoy says like, "Excellent, Alex", but her character is "conflicted" and she delivers this line like, "I don't want to talk about it", like she's some 14 year old girl after a breakup. It's so bad, I just cringe every time I think about it.


I think it's just because she is a sympathetic person, unlike Jack McCoy who is wielding blind justice. The show portraits her as a caring female, who is sometimes conflicted by her personal convictions and her role as a lawyer in the DA's office.
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
December 12 2009 06:37 GMT
#34
On December 12 2009 15:29 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 15:25 selboN wrote:
Law and Order: CI Vincent D'onofrio
Nuff said.

reeeeeeeeeally hit or miss. Some episodes he's really sharp, but some it's just too over the top, with that exaggerated lean and maddening cadence during his investigates and interrogations.

Most of the time he's good. He is nothing like Heratio on Miami, god he is bad...
Also on Vincent D'onofrio, he got really sick or something at some point in the filming is what I heard, that is why they alternate actors mid season. Overall he is one of my favorite TV actors.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 06:38:49
December 12 2009 06:38 GMT
#35
On December 12 2009 15:33 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 15:12 BroOd wrote:
On December 12 2009 15:07 JWD wrote:
On December 12 2009 15:03 BroOd wrote:
Well, Alana is probably the hottest, but Angie Harmon is definitely a close second, and far above third place (probably Jill Hennessey?).

I hear ya on 3rd place being far behind…Hennessy was just decent in her day. It's hard to evaluate her because she was on the show long enough ago that her looks are dated.

[image loading]

90s style!!

Personally I'd pick Annie Parisse for 3rd, even though she was pretty awful as far as acting goes.
[image loading]


Oh god, she's so bad. There's one scene with her and McCoy in chambers where evidence is about to get thrown out (due to Fontana's misconduct) and she wrangles some "inevitable discovery" loophole, and McCoy says like, "Excellent, Alex", but her character is "conflicted" and she delivers this line like, "I don't want to talk about it", like she's some 14 year old girl after a breakup. It's so bad, I just cringe every time I think about it.


I think it's just because she is a sympathetic person, unlike Jack McCoy who is wielding blind justice. The show portraits her as a caring female, who is sometimes conflicted by her personal convictions and her role as a lawyer in the DA's office.

I was talking more about her poor acting than her weak character. It's no coincidence she was the shortest tenured ADA and that they + Show Spoiler +
killed her and stuffed her in a trunk
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
December 12 2009 06:39 GMT
#36
Well, no one brought up S. Epatha Merkerson! xD
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 06:40:41
December 12 2009 06:40 GMT
#37
On December 12 2009 15:37 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 15:29 BroOd wrote:
On December 12 2009 15:25 selboN wrote:
Law and Order: CI Vincent D'onofrio
Nuff said.

reeeeeeeeeally hit or miss. Some episodes he's really sharp, but some it's just too over the top, with that exaggerated lean and maddening cadence during his investigates and interrogations.

Most of the time he's good. He is nothing like Heratio on Miami, god he is bad...
Also on Vincent D'onofrio, he got really sick or something at some point in the filming is what I heard, that is why they alternate actors mid season. Overall he is one of my favorite TV actors.

Yeah, he was suffering from exhaustion, which is why they brought Chris Noth back into the series. (That character, Mike Logan, was the original junior detective on the original L&O)
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