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Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
December 06 2009 14:46 GMT
#1
I'm thinking of getting some good headphones for my brother for xmas but know jack all about headphones. He's big into recording and music stuff so he said he'd like some of those big DJ looking headphones with good sound quality for his recording/guitar/etc stuff. Can anyone help me out? I think around $100 is my limit, not sure if you can get a decent pair for that much.

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Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 15:39:17
December 06 2009 15:29 GMT
#2
Does he need the phones to isolate sound at all?

Good open cans in that range are the Audio Technica ad-700's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826402014&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Headphones and Accessories-_-Audio-Technica-_-26402014
Best sounding ~$100 headphones I've ever heard.

If he needs something that doesn't leak sound as much then I'd recommend the Denon ah-d1001's
http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40677219&source=EWBBASE&cm_mmc=CSE-_-google-_-ewbbase-_-Electronics&CAWELAID=382169831
They don't isolate from surrounding noise, but they do keep sound in so you don't bother others at night.

EDIT: just realized they are out of stock, I can't find them for less than ~$150 right now.
Prices on these vary like crazy month to month.


If you need something that pretty much blocks all sound out the Sennheiser HD-280's do a great job
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106328&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Headphones and Accessories-_-Sennheiser Electronic corp.-_-26106328
They are uncomfortable though.


You can do some research here
http://www.head-fi.org

Check out the forums, look up testimonials ect.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 06 2009 15:33 GMT
#3
On December 07 2009 00:29 Klapdout wrote:
Does he need the phones to isolate sound at all?

Good open cans in that range are the Audio Technica ad-700's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826402014&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Headphones and Accessories-_-Audio-Technica-_-26402014
Best sounding ~$100 headphones I've ever heard.

If he needs something that doesn't leak sound as much then I'd recommend the Denon ah-d1001's
http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40677219&source=EWBBASE&cm_mmc=CSE-_-google-_-ewbbase-_-Electronics&CAWELAID=382169831
They don't isolate from surrounding noise, but they do keep sound in so you don't bother others at night.


If you need something that pretty much blocks all sound out the Sennheiser HD-280's do a great job
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106328&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Headphones and Accessories-_-Sennheiser Electronic corp.-_-26106328
They are uncomfortable though.


You can do some research here
http://www.head-fi.org

Check out the forums, look up testimonials ect.


Lol @ the reviews for your first one, most positive but this was funny:


Pros: I love these babies. Very broad sound, middle of the road base (I cannot stand bass and these are perfect!). Gold plated plug a I cannot even feel them on my head!
Cons: HUGE! If you have seen a 120mm fan, the are about the size of the fan!
Other Thoughts: Epic gaming?


Pros: They actually fit my head. My head is huge. These are for people with big freakin' heads.
Cons: None, yet. Just got em. Middle of the road bass, but you can hear EVERYTHING.
Other Thoughts: THEY FIT MY HEAD. NOTHING FITS MY HEAD.
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Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
December 06 2009 15:40 GMT
#4
On December 07 2009 00:33 Ganfei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 00:29 Klapdout wrote:
Does he need the phones to isolate sound at all?

Good open cans in that range are the Audio Technica ad-700's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826402014&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Headphones and Accessories-_-Audio-Technica-_-26402014
Best sounding ~$100 headphones I've ever heard.

If he needs something that doesn't leak sound as much then I'd recommend the Denon ah-d1001's
http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40677219&source=EWBBASE&cm_mmc=CSE-_-google-_-ewbbase-_-Electronics&CAWELAID=382169831
They don't isolate from surrounding noise, but they do keep sound in so you don't bother others at night.


If you need something that pretty much blocks all sound out the Sennheiser HD-280's do a great job
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106328&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Headphones and Accessories-_-Sennheiser Electronic corp.-_-26106328
They are uncomfortable though.


You can do some research here
http://www.head-fi.org

Check out the forums, look up testimonials ect.


Lol @ the reviews for your first one, most positive but this was funny:


Pros: I love these babies. Very broad sound, middle of the road base (I cannot stand bass and these are perfect!). Gold plated plug a I cannot even feel them on my head!
Cons: HUGE! If you have seen a 120mm fan, the are about the size of the fan!
Other Thoughts: Epic gaming?


Pros: They actually fit my head. My head is huge. These are for people with big freakin' heads.
Cons: None, yet. Just got em. Middle of the road bass, but you can hear EVERYTHING.
Other Thoughts: THEY FIT MY HEAD. NOTHING FITS MY HEAD.



lol thats newegg for ya, they are tech level "high" to ;\
thats why I said go to headfi for testimonials ;D
Kingfisher
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada144 Posts
December 06 2009 15:50 GMT
#5
The three headphones mentioned above are all really great choices (especially AD-700). But they're a bit different from DJ style headphones that Phyre is looking for other than Sennheiser.
For recording and monitoring however, there are headphones that specifically target that kind of use because when recording, you don't want emphasized bass or treble that might distort the actual recording regardless of whether it sounds more enjoyable. Monitoring headphones make the sound neutral as possible which is beneficial when recording music and such. My advice is that get either Sennheiser headphones around $100 for a great sound or google "Sony monitoring headphones" to check those out as well.
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
December 06 2009 15:57 GMT
#6
Klapdat is right. Although, Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 3.5mm/ 6.3mm Connector Circumaural Open-Air Dynamic Headphone, it's my choice, you won't regret it.
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
December 06 2009 15:57 GMT
#7
DJ style headphones can be found in the AKG K518 LE's. They're a bit tight on the head but can be found for under $100 including shipping from HTFR.
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SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
December 06 2009 16:03 GMT
#8
i think headphones that is focused on recording might not be the best for just listening and entertainment. So it'd depend on how specialized/picky your brother is.
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
December 06 2009 16:04 GMT
#9
Most things by sennheiser aren't bad, I have a pair of PC161's for gaming.
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King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
December 06 2009 16:26 GMT
#10
How is the actual wire for these? I had 50 dollar headphones before for my amp, but eventually the wiring went bad, and the wires got exposed =/
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 16:36:26
December 06 2009 16:34 GMT
#11

thats why I said go to headfi for testimonials ;D

The first thing anyone needs to learn about audio equipment is not to go to headfi. They are seriously just a huge pack of idiots who don't have a damn clue in the world. The best place to go if you're looking for reliable information is hydrogenaudio.org, because they actually have a rule against bullshit and threads get closed when people make unsupported claims.

At OP: You can probably get Senn HD555's for that price, which most people seem to like, but they're open air so they're probably not that great for recording and absolutely horrible for djing.

Your checklist should basically be:

Durability?

Gold or Silver plated (silver is more conductive [which means you don't have to turn the volume as high, which means you save batteries] and better short term, but oxidizes faster)?

Open or closed? open means people around the listener can probably hear what they're hearing, closed means the listener is isolated from sounds outside of their headphones. Both have different applications

Home use or portable? Full sized cans are not particularly portable most of the time. Some are good for trains if they have noise isolation.



I don't terribly remember what else, but bring that list to a store that sells a lot of headphones and hopefully get some help. Ignore anyone who tells you headphones need an amp, or recabling, or what have you because it's all bullshit. 100 dollars is definitely enough for a nice sturdy pair of headphones. The only other thing is to avoid obviously trendy brands like Skullcandy and Apple because you will end up getting less bang for your buck.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
December 06 2009 16:42 GMT
#12
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_dj-headphones

they are all great. hd 25 is expensive, but the others should be below $100.
haxorz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States138 Posts
December 06 2009 16:58 GMT
#13
I know nothing about recording, but I have two pairs of Sennheisers and they are amazing for gaming and listening to music.
And theres the GG.
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 17:18:08
December 06 2009 17:10 GMT
#14
I've worn the Sony MDR-7506 for a few years now.

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-MDR7506/

Primarily, I use headphones for either sound design or video editing.

They are very comfortable, durable, and great for general needs too.
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ToN
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada245 Posts
December 06 2009 17:49 GMT
#15
The ad700's are 5 dollars cheaper on amazon as well as free shipping I think if you are interested.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 06 2009 17:51 GMT
#16
AKG - K271 (mk.II)
Cheap, incredibly good, lacks a little bass so not the ultimate listening headphones but with little tweaking of EQ and these are simply great for anything. I´m not sure how much these cost in the US though, wont probably fall in your price range.

E. I just checked, they are quite pricy there. Maybe some other model, I heard 241 studio or something are also very good from AKG.

If he wants to use them to casual listening too, try to get a pair with less than about 70ish impedance, otherwise he´ll have to get an headphone amplifier.

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Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
December 06 2009 17:54 GMT
#17
Alessandro MS1-i ~ $110 , great for most music, he will love it if he likes mid range. the cons are the sound stage is not so big and its open.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
December 06 2009 17:59 GMT
#18
Since were talking about good headphones what would be a good pair for gaming with a nice mic that lasted for more then a year? I go through a pair of logitech headphones each year because they break on me.
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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
December 06 2009 18:09 GMT
#19
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zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
December 06 2009 18:10 GMT
#20
I have these: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-V700DJ-Style-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00001W0DH

I use them for recording and also general use. No complaints at all....good solid pair of headphones.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
December 06 2009 18:37 GMT
#21
I have the ATH 700s, and yes, they are fucking huge lol.

Good quality + you can get for 100 dollars though, so it's pretty good imo.
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Xmplify
Profile Joined October 2009
United States57 Posts
December 06 2009 18:57 GMT
#22
On December 07 2009 01:42 Corvi wrote:
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_dj-headphones

they are all great. hd 25 is expensive, but the others should be below $100.



Like he said, these are a great brand of headphones.
phase
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 19:10:06
December 06 2009 19:08 GMT
#23
As soon as I started wearing canalphones, I haven't been able to go back to headphones at all. The really good ones are really just amazing. Especially if you want to do recording, pretty much canalphones are the only things that can actually reproduce sound the most accurately. Just for an example, I went to headphone.com and grabbed the frequency response of 3 headphones recommended above and the pair that I currently use (ER-6i):

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=753&graphID[]=143&graphID[]=1233&graphID[]=563
*edit* UGHHH stupid brackets in the URL name, just copy and paste the link into your browser ****

I believe the ideal perfect studio audio reproduction looks like a graph somewhere between the Sennheiser HD555 and the ER-6i, but Imo, a lot closer to the ER-6i. From the graph you also see that for accurate audio production, the Sony DJ headphones mdr-700s suck balls for the price. And from personal experience, I can tell you that although they look cool, they break super easily, they sound like they have almost 0 bass, they make your ears really sore (because they're so tight) after like an hour, and they just sound really off. Really, I haven't heard anything sounding better than my ER-6i canalphones.

As a disclaimer, canalphones aren't for everyone. They have to relaly go way up your ear for them to get their accurate sound reproduction, and becaues of this, some people don't like the way they feel after awhile. I, personally have gotten used to it, and I can wear my ER-6is for hours with minimal discomfort. I've even fallen asleep with them inside my ear and woke up fine.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 06 2009 19:37 GMT
#24
I'm afraid of canal phones because like Q-tips they go right into your ear... There's been a lot of studies about Q-tips pushing and building up wax deep in your ear causing your hearing to worsen (and eventually sometimes requiring professional cleaning).
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 06 2009 21:34 GMT
#25
I'm using a broken pair of Bose headphones that I taped together again. I'd really love to recommend Bose because their sound quality is incredible. However, they unfortunately break really easily and are made of cheap plastic. I'd also say pick something you think will be comfortable, my Bose headphones stay nice and soft after a good 4 hours of listening.
Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
December 06 2009 22:11 GMT
#26
On December 07 2009 02:10 jeddus wrote:
I've worn the Sony MDR-7506 for a few years now.

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-MDR7506/

Primarily, I use headphones for either sound design or video editing.

They are very comfortable, durable, and great for general needs too.


The consumer version of this headphone (exactly the same sound) is the mdr-v6, and I would REALLY recommend those based on your description

They can be found under $100 including tax/shipping, they isolate decently well, they the most neutral hps in your price range, and they are indestructable (other than the earpads, which you can replace). They are also extremely popular in professional recording studios, and have been for decades.

Canalphones are good for bass response and isolation, but if you are using them for recording purposes, they have huge problems which a lot of people cant deal with. You are going to notice some terrible high frequency cutoff on any canalphone except maybe jh-13s, which still cost around $1200-1400 iirc, you might notice problems with microphonics (hearing audible sounds when anything touches or moves the cable), and you have to deal with fit issues and replacing ear tips. The only canalphones that can compete with full size headphone setups are high end custom fit canalphones, which are WAY out of your price range anyway
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
December 06 2009 22:41 GMT
#27
On December 07 2009 00:57 Pang0lin wrote:
Klapdat is right. Although, Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 3.5mm/ 6.3mm Connector Circumaural Open-Air Dynamic Headphone, it's my choice, you won't regret it.
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I think my friend has these, and I told him I got these QC-15 bose sound cancelling headphones the other day and he loled at me and said these were far superior. He's most definitely right :x
Fatmatt2000
Profile Joined January 2006
United States159 Posts
December 06 2009 22:45 GMT
#28
On December 07 2009 02:10 jeddus wrote:
I've worn the Sony MDR-7506 for a few years now.

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-MDR7506/

Primarily, I use headphones for either sound design or video editing.

They are very comfortable, durable, and great for general needs too.


I've head these headphones for years now too, I think they're great.

You also seem them used all the time on TV shows and News stuff, its fun to be like, Woah I own those headphones....
...

I dont know, maybe Im just weird.
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GW.Methos
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States249 Posts
December 06 2009 22:57 GMT
#29
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 23:05:36
December 06 2009 23:04 GMT
#30
I bought a pair of Grado SR125i for $150, and I absolutely love them. However, if your limit is $100, I'd suggest the Grado SR80, which got amazing reviews, especially for the price.

EDIT: Oh, they only have a 1/4" connector, so you'll have to buy a converter for a few dollars. Also the chord is thick but it is really flexible and it shouldn't give much of an issue.
phase
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States399 Posts
December 07 2009 00:16 GMT
#31
On December 07 2009 07:11 Wangsta wrote:
Canalphones are good for bass response and isolation, but if you are using them for recording purposes, they have huge problems which a lot of people cant deal with. You are going to notice some terrible high frequency cutoff on any canalphone except maybe jh-13s, which still cost around $1200-1400 iirc, you might notice problems with microphonics (hearing audible sounds when anything touches or moves the cable), and you have to deal with fit issues and replacing ear tips. The only canalphones that can compete with full size headphone setups are high end custom fit canalphones, which are WAY out of your price range anyway


This is all true too, thanks for adding ( I realized in my post that I came off as a fanboy :o ) The picking up of cable movement sounds is probably the largest annoyance out of those. As for the 10kHz cutoff, human ears don't really pick up more than 10kHz anyways - human voice cuts off at around 2-4kHz max, and the highest hihats are like 6-8kHz. If you're a true audiophile though, that may be an issue (I can live with the almost perfect accuracy in the 0-10kHz) region.
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
December 07 2009 04:30 GMT
#32
Thanks so much everyone for the advice! My brother is specifically looking for headphones for recording purposes, he already has stuff for general use. As such, I'm thinking of getting the Sony MDR-V6. Pretty good price too at $65. I'll still be checking this thread though in case someone has a reason why I shouldn't get these.
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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11595 Posts
December 07 2009 05:37 GMT
#33
These are mine:
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They're pretty good, haven't broke yet (been 2 years) and all of my other headphones have a tendency to only work on one side after a few months, these work as great as they did the first day i got them.
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