• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:42
CEST 14:42
KST 21:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism8Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?124Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!46
StarCraft 2
General
Ciprofloxacin 500 mg: What Should You Know Before Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism SC4ALL: II Winner will earn a spot at HSC 30! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 7/8 Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly 2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
Terran or Protoss [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters Practice Partners (Official) BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group A
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do? Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10430 users

[Aion]Holy Crap...

Blogs > {CC}StealthBlue
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 24 2009 07:13 GMT
#1
As the Daevas dream, they see Atreia's future
The future of Aion—revealed!
Your dreams your imagination becomes reality.
With innovation Aion will make your imagination into reality.
Aion's future will be your dreams made real.
Never ending Challenge, AION.





"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
November 24 2009 07:26 GMT
#2
ive always had a weak spot for larger than life monsters, but I cant imagine what it would take to run all this.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
November 24 2009 07:28 GMT
#3
Some really cool fight sequences in that video, really enjoyed it. Probably need to upgrade my comp to get the most enjoyment (and not lag) if I want to play that.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
November 24 2009 07:30 GMT
#4
isnt this just Lineage ... modified
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 07:39:12
November 24 2009 07:31 GMT
#5
i wish my comp could actually run aion. well, it can, but i lag horribly in cities and have everything down to low to play the game, which is the only reason i stopped. i was fine playing it because i enjoyed the gameplay, but knew i was missing out on a lot. if i ever get a better computer aion is the first game im reinstalling. my laptop would explode if i tried to play with everything they did in that trailer ;x

finished watching it, holy crap is a appropriate response.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
November 24 2009 07:32 GMT
#6
That axe is so big.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 24 2009 07:32 GMT
#7
Col movie, but those floating pigs kinda creeped me out. Do pigs really float?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 24 2009 07:36 GMT
#8
On November 24 2009 16:32 meeple wrote:
Col movie, but those floating pigs kinda creeped me out. Do pigs really float?


I'm sure those were just mobs for the demo.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
November 24 2009 07:42 GMT
#9
this game will boost all sales for intel, Nvidia, radeon and other computer component required to play that super game

looks amazing but only the very fortunate can play that

its like final fantasy CCXII
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
November 24 2009 07:46 GMT
#10
watching the trailer on HD made me want to quit women, warhammer and pretty much all of real life... I just hope i won't spend 5x the cost of the game on computer parts lol
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
November 24 2009 07:51 GMT
#11
do they ip block countries outside NA?
fromis_9 enjoyer
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 24 2009 08:29 GMT
#12
No thanks, I'll just purchase GW2.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Elaeli
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany62 Posts
November 24 2009 08:41 GMT
#13
Most of that trailer was cinematics/cutscenes/scripted events. Not too exciting for me, tbh. I'd prefer if they would actually implement some PvP content besides a PvE instance(!!) you can do once a day and fortresses where you can only accomplish something if you have a zerg of 200 with you. Never mind the flawed AP system that rewards PvEing more than PvPing or the PvP items that require you to be in a zerg-guild so you can actually get gold coins. Or the horrible air combat. Or the balance of the classes. Or the dependency on 0.01% dropchance items (sup %atk speed / extendables).

If they promised to fix that instead of pumping out even more PvE grind content I'd actually be hyped.
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
November 24 2009 08:50 GMT
#14
that did look awesome ;o
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
underscore
Profile Joined August 2009
252 Posts
November 24 2009 09:05 GMT
#15
On November 24 2009 17:41 Elaeli wrote:
Most of that trailer was cinematics/cutscenes/scripted events. Not too exciting for me, tbh. I'd prefer if they would actually implement some PvP content besides a PvE instance(!!) you can do once a day and fortresses where you can only accomplish something if you have a zerg of 200 with you. Never mind the flawed AP system that rewards PvEing more than PvPing or the PvP items that require you to be in a zerg-guild so you can actually get gold coins. Or the horrible air combat. Or the balance of the classes. Or the dependency on 0.01% dropchance items (sup %atk speed / extendables).

If they promised to fix that instead of pumping out even more PvE grind content I'd actually be hyped.


I took over serveral fortresses in the upper abyss with less than 60 people in bad gear and nearly all of them below 50.
I earn AP by killing people that are grinding fortress guards for AP but I have to agree PvE is more rewarding in terms of AP at the moment.
I did get 2 gold coins when I was SOLO.
I like the low drop rates as there is not everyone running around in endgame gear after 1 month like in other games and it makes crafting more important.
If you don't like the game fine but don't spread false information just because you're terrible.
Elaeli
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany62 Posts
November 24 2009 09:24 GMT
#16
On November 24 2009 18:05 underscore wrote:
I took over serveral fortresses in the upper abyss with less than 60 people in bad gear and nearly all of them below 50.
I earn AP by killing people that are grinding fortress guards for AP but I have to agree PvE is more rewarding in terms of AP at the moment.
I did get 2 gold coins when I was SOLO.
I like the low drop rates as there is not everyone running around in endgame gear after 1 month like in other games and it makes crafting more important.
If you don't like the game fine but don't spread false information just because you're terrible.


And how many of the opposing faction were there when you took the fort? Every single siege on my server I've been to was a zerg fest of 400+ players. Heck, even when we went to an upper fort when there were barely any lvl 45+ with ~40 man, we got zerged by 200 lvl 25 asmos after 10 minutes that came running from defending the lower forts where the action was usually concentrated.

Just wondering, are you playing a sorc or ranger? Because as a Glad/Sin you definitely won't be getting any coins SOLO when fortress bosses hit for 5k+ AE, and you'd know that you need rare attackspeed items to even be remotely able to keep up with ranged classes' dps and CC.

Or do you want to tell me that a glad in green gear is as powerful as a sorc in greens? If you need certain (low-drop) items to balance out classes, there is a problem in the game's design; that's what I'm saying.
underscore
Profile Joined August 2009
252 Posts
November 24 2009 10:23 GMT
#17
On November 24 2009 18:24 Elaeli wrote:


And how many of the opposing faction were there when you took the fort? Every single siege on my server I've been to was a zerg fest of 400+ players. Heck, even when we went to an upper fort when there were barely any lvl 45+ with ~40 man, we got zerged by 200 lvl 25 asmos after 10 minutes that came running from defending the lower forts where the action was usually concentrated.


Of course you can't expect to take over a fortress easily when there are as many or more defenders as attackers. I agree that in the lower abyss taking over fortresses is a huge zergfest at the moment. But once there are more 45+ players and 2, 3 or 4 fortress are vulnerable at the same time it will spread out. And also if the opposing faction is better organized who do you want to blame?

Just wondering, are you playing a sorc or ranger? Because as a Glad/Sin you definitely won't be getting any coins SOLO when fortress bosses hit for 5k+ AE, and you'd know that you need rare attackspeed items to even be remotely able to keep up with ranged classes' dps and CC.


I'm just proofing a point. You don't need to be in an uber 24man level 50 alliance to get gold medals.
Have a healer in your group and you're good to go. In the lower abyss a level 45 assasin can tank the whole fight.
High-level Glads and Assasins put out very good DPS. Don't know where you're getting this from.


Or do you want to tell me that a glad in green gear is as powerful as a sorc in greens? If you need certain (low-drop) items to balance out classes, there is a problem in the game's design; that's what I'm saying.


Sorc is a really strong class I agree but they do scale worse with gear than other classes. But I don't want to talk about balance. It's not perfect and it's not possible to balance it perfectly. Level 1 - 50. From green gear to orange gear. Can't be done.
Overall I think it's fine.
Elaeli
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany62 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 11:37:48
November 24 2009 11:33 GMT
#18
I'm mainly concerned with PvP, especially 6v6, so I don't really care how much dps certain classes do on stationary mobs - what counts for me is the effectiveness of classes in groups where CC, healing and focus fire is flying around.

Sorc is a really strong class I agree but they do scale worse with gear than other classes. But I don't want to talk about balance. It's not perfect and it's not possible to balance it perfectly. Level 1 - 50. From green gear to orange gear. Can't be done.


See, that's exactly the problem - it can be done, or at least to a degree where it isn't very noticable. In AION, you have %atkspeed gear that makes glads go from gimp to uber with just two(!) items, whereas other classes, such as sorc or cleric scale very smoothly with items, without high bumps in effectiveness. The same thing could be observed for example in WoW when casters got their first spelldamage trinkets from MC, as there was basically no +sdmg available before. Casters suddenly got a huge boost in effectiveness and were able to 2-shot others.

The general consensus seems to be that AION is relatively balanced when talking about fully decked out toons, and I guess I agree with this. But when certain key items are very rare and hard to obtain, the balance gets thrown off for a majority of the earlier stages after release, and to a certain degree even after that, as some items are very high in demand, thus messing up the economy and leading to overfarming of some mobs/ressources. Guess why crafted atkspeed gloves go for 2-3m+ and others are put up for 400k and don't sell.

What SHOULD have been done is make sure the game is balanced at the best equip possible, let all damage/survivability scale at the same rate for all classes, and then itemize in such a way that you get the same state of balance at every level with equal gear. For the particular case I'm talking about this would for example translate to: atkspeed on all items with appropiate numbers.
DAoC did this pretty well, you had a cap on all stats like weapon dps, str, resists etc., and the game could be balanced by comparing fully maxed chars, no matter what items you introduce, as it was possible to get maxed with crafted and quest items. (Well, then they did ToA and everything got broken with new stats introduced, but .. the theory was good).

Like, would it have been so hard to make sure all blue/orange weapons have attackspeed, starting from 1% at lvl 20 to 19% at lvl 50, so you get some kind of balance on all levels, and not only at endgame gear? Or not give sorcs timed/dp spells that take off 75% of your hp with ridiculous base damage but don't get much better even when you go from greens to epics? Or not give glads two 2s casttime melee spells at lvl 50 that crit for 5k - and a 10s unbreakable root on a timer? It's all those little things that throw off the PvP balance, even though they make no difference in PvE fights where the average dps doesn't experience any abnormalities from sudden spike damage.

Well, maybe I'm just spoiled by classic DAoC where I could grind to 50, get 2 ppl to do a few quests for jewelry, get my crafted set and go out to PvP as much as I wanted with a maxed char, endgame being advancing in realm ranks gained through PvP, and not in items gained from PvE ..
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 24 2009 11:37 GMT
#19
That game looks really fucking good. wow. Almost makes me want to try it.
Hello
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 14:25:08
November 24 2009 13:39 GMT
#20
Elaeli, your clueless. I play Assassin and I make Medals EVERY siege I've been to. Maybe if you would hit above 30 you wouldn't get one hitted by the deity. Do you go there with a healer? Assassins especially have a easy time because we can resist it's skills.

Also ever since they fixed the crashing issues and added BONUSES FOR DEFENSE, fortresses took a turn from zerg fests into organized alliance based PvP. I know it's in my server like that, why not in yours? My clan is in an alliance with 3 other clans, we control 3 of the upper castles that we took, AND defended together. Even against the opposite faction zerg. How? 3 organized clans with organized parties > zerg that have no idea how to work together. Of course the other faction clans been forming their own alliances, and we actually have competition, just makes the game that much more fun.

Aion is great, but it's not the perfect MMO (no MMO is perfect) but it looks the best and overall has a good feel to it. I've been playing it since release. And the amount of whine it has gotten from WoW kids is astonishing. WoW players are just horrible, lol.

If you guys are looking for 1v1 balanced game, AION is NOT it. Some classes are clearly stronger in 1v1s. And I couldn't care less. This game is based on small scale - mass PvP. Unlike from WoW, you actually feel like your playing a class. All classes have their own skills, and all classes can do something useful in PvP and in PvE. That works for me. They just bring something else to the table.

WoW kids = spoiled.

The droprates were slightly increased since last patch by the way, and way things are looking, they might even increase them more. And I can understand if some people want them increased, I'm myself from L2 so I'm used to not having it easy.

Aircombat works too if your smart. 1v1 aircombat can be a bitch. If your ranged class, aircombat is tons of fun. Though there are some issues they should fix. But I'm overall happy with the feature.


1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IntoTheTV X SOOP
11:00
Weekly #4
IntoTheiNu 1385
WardiTV691
CranKy Ducklings99
Rex96
LiquipediaDiscussion
Escore
10:00
Season 3 King of Kings
escodisco4542
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 96
ByuN (SOOP) 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25540
Calm 7410
Jaedong 1402
Soma 518
Snow 361
Mini 334
EffOrt 265
ZerO 261
Light 244
firebathero 229
[ Show more ]
Stork 184
Pusan 152
Dewaltoss 113
Rush 86
Mong 70
Barracks 59
hero 58
Free 49
Sea.KH 44
soO 33
NaDa 26
Shine 19
Terrorterran 13
JulyZerg 13
yabsab 13
Noble 7
Icarus 7
sorry 7
ajuk12(nOOB) 1
Dota 2
syndereN743
KheZu166
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1616
markeloff780
kRYSTAL_38
Other Games
singsing1909
Lowko366
hiko350
crisheroes318
DeMusliM275
Pyrionflax167
XaKoH 98
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 59
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1439
Other Games
• WagamamaTV211
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
3h 33m
The PiG Daily
10h 18m
CranKy Ducklings
21h 18m
WardiTV Invitational
22h 18m
Cure vs Zoun
SHIN vs Classic
ByuN vs MaxPax
Percival vs YoungYakov
OSC
1d 7h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 22h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
2 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs Rogue
BlizzCon
2 days
IdrA vs MC
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
GSL
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-10
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.