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Caller’s Tutorial: Economics: The Utility Problem

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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 20 2009 05:56 GMT
#1
These tutorials are probably flawed and have mistakes in them. I write these tutorials not only to help other people, but to also prove to myself that I know what I’m doing, and hopefully catch any mistakes that I may make that hopefully can be corrected before the exam.

Anyways:

The idea of economics is not what you may hear about in the news all the time. Many economists may work on Wall Street and the like, but the idea of economics, at its core, is a simple question: why do people do the things that they do? There are many branches of discipline that deal with this: psychology attempts to explain why people do certain actions, often having to deal with either a troubled past, an overflow of a certain hormone, or sexual relations with your mother. Similarly, political scientists attempt to figure out why certain governments are stable and why others are quickly dispatched by revolution. Historians attempt to figure out why things happened in the past, and hopefully to apply those lessons to the present. But economists? They purport that people’s actions are all due to responses to incentives.

The most obvious incentive is of course money and prices. If the price of something that I buy goes down, something will probably change in my consumption. I may buy more of it, or I may use the savings to buy other stuff. Of course, this begs the question, how are we supposed to tell what I will do?

The Utility Maximization Problem, or UMP, as it is called, is at the core of this question, the side of economics known as consumer theory. It claims that people derive “utility” from having certain amounts of goods. What exact kind of utility there is, we do not know-it could range from decoration to investment to self-penetration. But I digress. The fact is, we do not know how much utility someone will exactly derive from something-all that we can purport to know is that somebody will like a certain group of stuff more than others.

There are a few rules that are set into the idea of utility before we proceed: firstly, we argue that nobody has intratransitive preferences or irrational preferences. For instance, If I like apples more than pears, and pears more than oranges, I cannot like oranges more than apples. There are of course numerous loopholes in this assumption, as in the rest of them, but we’re ignoring them because otherwise we’d have to do even more calculus than I would like.

The second thing we argue is that preferences are usually convex. By this we mean that people tend to prefer averages of things to extremes, generally speaking (there are many notable exceptions). For instance, I would rather have 1 burger and one order of fries rather than two orders of fries or 2 burgers.

The third major assumption (other than stupid ones that aren’t important really) is that preferences are monotonic. This means that the more of something I have, it gives me more “utility.” Now, some of you may argue that there are clear flaws with this one, such as for instance women (two women are good, but five women will get out of hand) but for most goods, we will assume this as being true.

Now, you’ll notice I used the word “good” there. It’s not meaning just stuff, i.e. goods and services. It means that whatever we’re getting benefits us, i.e. it’s a good. There are also things which are called “neutrals” and “bads,” which you can probably conclude what they mean.

So now, how exactly do we show how this works? The first thing to do is to bring out one of the indecipherable graphs that you may see in class.

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Great, it’s a bunch of fucking lines. In actuality, those curves are what we call indifference curves. They mean that the person is indifferent as to what group of stuff he has along that line. For instance, if three apples and two oranges and three oranges and two apples are on the same indifference curve, it means that if I had to choose between the two groups, I would have a pretty hard time making a decision as I value them the same.

The higher value the utility is, then that means that I prefer anything on that indifference bundle to ones with less utility. For instance, the one labeled “5” is preferred to the one labeled “4” or “3” and so forth.
Now you may be asking, what the fuck does this do? All we know is that people like having more stuff. Cool. But that doesn’t help me with the calculus.

I’m getting to that. First we need to understand the other part of the UMP-the Budget Constraint.

The Budget Constraint is as follows: it is given by the equation M = p1x1 + p2x2, where x1 and x2 are two different goods.

This can be literally translated as follows: The amount of money that I can spend can give me the most utility through a certain combination of the two goods. Each good is at a certain price, and that price effects how much of each item I can buy.

Similarly, the idea of a Utility function is that it can be related to this. There are many different models of utility, so we’ll keep it in the general form U(x1, x2), meaning that this could be any utility function so long as it is related to only x1 and x2.

So the UMP is all about the following idea: we want to get the most use out of a group of items while spending no more than our budget. This should be pretty common sensey.

-To be continued with Part II: The Lagrangian and First Order Conditions.


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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 20 2009 05:57 GMT
#2
also, feel free to have me write crappy tutorials about anything that may be coming up on your midterm. If I feel that I have enough of a grasp on the material to write it then go for it.
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Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
November 20 2009 06:01 GMT
#3
On November 20 2009 14:57 Caller wrote:
also, feel free to have me write crappy tutorials about anything that may be coming up on your midterm. If I feel that I have enough of a grasp on the material to write it then go for it.

you should write a tutorial on RvR
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repEAT
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States45 Posts
November 20 2009 06:48 GMT
#4
This is material from an intermediate micro class yes? Nice write up by the way, I'm intended econ and it definitely helps to teach stuff because then you know you understand it yourself.
teehee
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
November 20 2009 06:54 GMT
#5
I'm in first year economics, hopefully this'll be an entertaining read?
Know this lil bit about the indifference curve approach to utility maximization already though.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 06:56:58
November 20 2009 06:55 GMT
#6
[image loading]

Can you help me solve this? :D
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 06:57:14
November 20 2009 06:57 GMT
#7
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 20 2009 07:09 GMT
#8
On November 20 2009 15:55 Sadistx wrote:
[image loading]

Can you help me solve this? :D

Unfortunately this isn't consumer theory, it's the theory of the firm, and so I haven't done that stuff yet. But I can still try:

a)
This question is simply asking you to solve for x in terms of p1 and p2. In this case, first you need to set the two equations equal to each other,
p1 + xit = p2 + (1-xi)t
substitute x for xi and you get an expanded equation of:
p1 + xt = p2 + t - xt
Then solve for x using basic algebra,
2xt = p2 + t - p1
x = (p2 + t-p1)/(2t)
This is the distance that would be optimum.

b) This question is asking you to simply write the profit function, which is basically
maximize P = Revenue - Costs
We know cost = c (i.e. zero) as it is given to us.
We also know that revenue = p1 times the demand function, which was already shown above to be x. Therefore, the profit function is:
P = (p2+t-p1)/(2tp1)

c-e) these i have absolutely no idea how to do at all, but you're already on your way
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repEAT
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States45 Posts
November 20 2009 07:11 GMT
#9
C-E are monopolistic competition and game theory related I believe. Too bad I just started that and don't get it yet.
teehee
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 20 2009 07:13 GMT
#10
On November 20 2009 16:11 repEAT wrote:
C-E are monopolistic competition and game theory related I believe. Too bad I just started that and don't get it yet.

i think its oligopoly but your point is correct T_T
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
November 20 2009 07:21 GMT
#11
Heh, I was just posting it to see how quick you'd catch on and I'm really surprised - senior students in my class struggle with this for some reason.
I didn't actually need help on this one, since we turned it in today, but i'm glad to see you enjoy the field. This is from a problem set in game theory btw (really fun course).

Keep at it and you'll go far :O

repEAT
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States45 Posts
November 20 2009 07:21 GMT
#12
On November 20 2009 16:13 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 16:11 repEAT wrote:
C-E are monopolistic competition and game theory related I believe. Too bad I just started that and don't get it yet.

i think its oligopoly but your point is correct T_T

Yep, very similar when doing analysis though. By the way, is this an intermediate micro course you're taking at a university?
teehee
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 20 2009 07:43 GMT
#13
Can you write one about monopoly and market power, and pricing decisions by a firm in those? Or are you just not doing any firm theory stuff and only consumer?
TranslatorBaa!
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 20 2009 08:03 GMT
#14
On November 20 2009 16:21 repEAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 16:13 Caller wrote:
On November 20 2009 16:11 repEAT wrote:
C-E are monopolistic competition and game theory related I believe. Too bad I just started that and don't get it yet.

i think its oligopoly but your point is correct T_T

Yep, very similar when doing analysis though. By the way, is this an intermediate micro course you're taking at a university?

yep, this is second year economics, consumer theory right now.

next quarter (read: january) i'll be doing firm theory so for those of you who want that I'll post stuff then
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pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
November 20 2009 09:20 GMT
#15
this is interesting, although i more or less got lost at the part about the indifference curves and everything further down about budget constraints as well. i'd ask for clarification, but that'd just be you explaining something that's supposed to be very simple to a retard - kinda pointless for you. look forward to the next post about whatever that stuff is!
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