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I started practicing singing on my own a week ago, mainly inspired by some of my friends he told me to go for it, not for pro or anything, just as a hobby. So after a week of learning stuff online etc, practice I managed to pull of this.
The new Muse song Uprising, Please hear it and rate. Keep in mind I am using a headset microphone, I need to get a good quality one since this is pretty shity (Microsoft LX-3000 xD), and I still need to work on my high notes (alot) as you will hear. So here it is:
http://www.2shared.com/file/8934388/338e716c/aaa.html
Update2: Following some of your advise I stayed away from imitating the muse singer and his weird special voice. Instead I went with what works with me best, here is the result( The chorus is still fucked up, I didnt figure it how exactly, but I am practicing dialy to imporve my range!)
http://www.2shared.com/file/8939662/b979afca/aaaa.html
Update3: I tried to Reduse my Nasality so I reocrded 2 clips , one of the chorus and the 1st set of verse. There is no instrumentals , its just me singing clearly.
http://www.2shared.com/file/8955621/818a716c/Test.html
http://www.2shared.com/file/8955651/cecbe7ab/Test2.html
Update4: Trying to find a song that would reflect my voice properly, because I know Muse is just too special :/ . I love breaking benjamin should I try Evil Angel or Until the end or what? I need your guidance TL members :3
Update5: Practicing on Evil Angel by Breaking benjamin, though I dont know which pitch should I sing the song at which is quite weird, so I recorded me singing a verse in 2 tones, which one is better? http://www.2shared.com/file/8966302/796b5581/test_3.html
6: Tried to sing my heart out on this one, so I got my headphones and volumed them to 80% and started singing Until the end by breaking Benjamin: Umm ignore the screaming I am trying to find ways to learn it properly to generate proper voice!
http://www.2shared.com/file/8978346/c7d50a1f/11_online.html
7: http://www.2shared.com/file/9039046/9d72f9f/Time_is_running_out.html
 
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You picked a bad song to practice on. The muse singer has such a special voice and i think you could do better by singing something more conventional rather than try to imitate him.
It wasnt hillariously bad or anything, it was about on the level of someone who's been practicing it for a week. Keep at it and im sure it will improve even more over time 
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On November 05 2009 06:06 Starparty wrote:You picked a bad song to practice on. The muse singer has such a special voice and i think you could do better by singing something more conventional rather than try to imitate him. It wasnt hillariously bad or anything, it was about on the level of someone who's been practicing it for a week. Keep at it and im sure it will improve even more over time
Thanks for the ups, would you recommend easier songs?
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try some of the old classics you stumble upon in karaoke, or find a singer that recembles your voice better. I mean, its very subjective and in the end its all up to what youre interested in doing yourself. If you really like to sing muse you should do that. A good tip in that case is to stand up, raise your head a bit to open up your throat and sing with your stomach rather than with your throat. It will give a better sound and it wont sound nasal. It will also make it easier to hit the higher tones
Edit: For tips on singing there should be quite a few good ones around here. Both some contestants in the recent idol competition you can speak with, and i also think someone signed up for it in the manpower thread.
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i don't know hwo to download it
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like Starparty said, stay away from Muse songs for practicing/learning. Bellamy has a unique singing voice, and uses falsetto a lot, which isn't easy to do. If you want a band to imitate for practicing.. there's a lot of rock bands with singers that have a easier range to mimic.
i'd suggest using last.fm or pandora and scout around looking for a band that has a singer you like that is within an easy range. if you have a piano or access to one i'd suggest using it, it will help a lot. learn proper breathing (sing from your stomach), and proper posture so you aren't hunched over.
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in my opinion it doesn't matter what you sing...
You're NOT suppose to emulate artists, you'll fail flat out because you'll influence your voice with your mind of sounding like someone else and end up not using your natural voice which is always bad.
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On November 05 2009 06:36 YPang wrote:
in my opinion it doesn't matter what you sing...
You're NOT suppose to emulate artists, you'll fail flat out because you'll influence your voice with your mind of sounding like someone else and end up not using your natural voice which is always bad.
How do you suggest I should sing, just get instrumentals and try and implement my style in them? Sort of like a cover for the song ?
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I suggest you try to find an artist with a similar voice and song with a range comfortable for you and practice those.
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And would getting a good mic improve the recording? Most of the people I know say that my voice is alot better live, so would that matter?
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On November 05 2009 07:39 TrickNi wrote:
LOL OMG
;_;
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On November 05 2009 07:35 DragoonPK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2009 06:36 YPang wrote:
in my opinion it doesn't matter what you sing...
You're NOT suppose to emulate artists, you'll fail flat out because you'll influence your voice with your mind of sounding like someone else and end up not using your natural voice which is always bad. How do you suggest I should sing, just get instrumentals and try and implement my style in them? Sort of like a cover for the song ?
yah just do your own cover, trust me just do your own thing. Often times the hard part is trying to be yourself and sound like yourself. Cuz the more you try to sound like someone else, the worse it'll be.
Also when you do sing, make sure that you're at a place where you can fully let your voice go out, like if people are sleeping and w/e it's not the best place to practice, and infact it might even get you bad habits.
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On November 05 2009 07:42 DragoonPK wrote:
And would getting a good mic improve the recording? Most of the people I know say that my voice is alot better live, so would that matter?
Yes, getting a decent mic would definitely help the quality of your recording. Although the quality isn't THAT bad compared some some mics I've used in the past
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On November 05 2009 07:51 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2009 07:42 DragoonPK wrote:
And would getting a good mic improve the recording? Most of the people I know say that my voice is alot better live, so would that matter? Yes, getting a decent mic would definitely help the quality of your recording. Although the quality isn't THAT bad compared some some mics I've used in the past
Yeah at some point I wasn't sure if I could sing at all, sometimes I thought it sounded decent, sometimes I hated it, so I decided to get a decent mic, and check out what it sounds like. If you have some spare money I suggest you to get one
(something like this: http://www.thomann.de/gb/rode_nt1_a_complete_vocal_recording.htm )
About your singing: Tbh the chorus sounded really horrible ^^ But like the others said, muse is very difficult to sing, that guy has a sick range and is a lot more talented than 90% of other rock singers. the verse on the other hand sounded fine, and would surely sound better after having practiced for a while.
One Tip: Learn how to play the guitar, and play/sing along to some songs you like
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On November 05 2009 08:17 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2009 07:51 infinity21 wrote:On November 05 2009 07:42 DragoonPK wrote:
And would getting a good mic improve the recording? Most of the people I know say that my voice is alot better live, so would that matter? Yes, getting a decent mic would definitely help the quality of your recording. Although the quality isn't THAT bad compared some some mics I've used in the past Yeah at some point I wasn't sure if I could sing at all, sometimes I thought it sounded decent, sometimes I hated it, so I decided to get a decent mic, and check out what it sounds like. If you have some spare money I suggest you to get one (something like this: http://www.thomann.de/gb/rode_nt1_a_complete_vocal_recording.htm ) About your singing: Tbh the chorus sounded really horrible ^^ But like the others said, muse is very difficult to sing, that guy has a sick range and is a lot more talented than 90% of other rock singers. the verse on the other hand sounded fine, and would surely sound better after having practiced for a while. One Tip: Learn how to play the guitar, and play/sing along to some songs you like
Ill do that sometime ^^ Thanks
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Definitely decent. Try a Snowball Mic if you have the money.
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definatly get a condenser mic, tho often times its tricky to set it up with the computer, you might also need a seperate outside soudn card which can get really expensive.
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omg this must be a troll thread :>
+ Show Spoiler +bursted laughing at ~1:30, that was funny :D
I apologize if this was not a joke.
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On November 05 2009 08:51 Piste wrote:omg this must be a troll thread :> + Show Spoiler +bursted laughing at ~1:30, that was funny :D I apologize if this was not a joke.
Its not a joke t.t
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hahahaha
I don't think you need to spend that much money for a mic especially when you're just starting off. I use a mic from rock band 2 and it's good enough for me 
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On November 05 2009 08:54 DragoonPK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2009 08:51 Piste wrote:omg this must be a troll thread :> + Show Spoiler +bursted laughing at ~1:30, that was funny :D I apologize if this was not a joke. Its not a joke t.t
well, week isn't enough obviously. in that time you don't rise up fro D-ranks at bw either! just keep on practising
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niiiiice i think a lot better, except the chorus needs more power. I'm not sure how the original song goes, but i think the chorus needs to be stronger.
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On November 05 2009 09:38 YPang wrote:
niiiiice i think a lot better, except the chorus needs more power. I'm not sure how the original song goes, but i think the chorus needs to be stronger.
Thanks man! I will keep practicing daily to improve my vocal cords, thats my usual singing voice. I think you are right, going with what you are and how you sound the best is the right thing. I mean all these bands don't copy other bands eh
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i good way i learned to know if you're using your natural voice is to just make the "Hmmm" sound with your lips closed, and your voice should be based off of that.
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yeah the second one is way better.
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On November 05 2009 08:56 infinity21 wrote:hahahaha I don't think you need to spend that much money for a mic especially when you're just starting off. I use a mic from rock band 2 and it's good enough for me
well the thing is, from the page I ordered it, you can give it back after 30 days if you dont like it so i could just basically check it out for free. But after using it I got more confident and started singing quite a bit more frequently.
edit: heard the new one, mh the chorus is still really terrible 
Btw. if you realise that something is simply too high for you to hit, its often a good idea to just go an octave lower.
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On November 05 2009 10:14 Piste wrote:
yeah the second one is way better.
yay! ^^ Im motivated now!
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good lets see more updates :D
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I'll be honest, pretty darn horrible. Needs a lot of work. Your voice is that it is very nasally which doesn't sound very good. You might wanna try singing more gutturally.
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On November 05 2009 14:08 resonance wrote:
I'll be honest, pretty darn horrible. Needs a lot of work. Your voice is that it is very nasally which doesn't sound very good. You might wanna try singing more gutturally.
Did you check the 2nd one too? I am also abit sick with a cold could that affect it ?
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On November 05 2009 14:08 resonance wrote:
I'll be honest, pretty darn horrible. Needs a lot of work. Your voice is that it is very nasally which doesn't sound very good. You might wanna try singing more gutturally.
You also realize the mic is pretty crappy and I had to +db to get the voice to sound louder :/
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Ok I found a couple of exercises to get rid of my nasality !
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I agree with resonance in that it sounds very nasally. However, that's probably the worst of your worries as a budding vocalist. You're not tone deaf like many other people =D.
If you do choose to get that mic, it's a highly regarded entry/budget mic, so I don't think you can go wrong with it. However, it is a condenser mic, so you're going to need some sort of interface with phantom power to use it so that might be a big hassle you don't want to deal with.
I haven't heard the original, but just from the most recent one you posted, it sounds decent for a person just starting to learn to sing. Remember to support from your diaphragm!
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On November 05 2009 23:49 Chromyne wrote:
I agree with resonance in that it sounds very nasally. However, that's probably the worst of your worries as a budding vocalist. You're not tone deaf like many other people =D.
If you do choose to get that mic, it's a highly regarded entry/budget mic, so I don't think you can go wrong with it. However, it is a condenser mic, so you're going to need some sort of interface with phantom power to use it so that might be a big hassle you don't want to deal with.
I haven't heard the original, but just from the most recent one you posted, it sounds decent for a person just starting to learn to sing. Remember to support from your diaphragm!
yay! Ok! Do you know how can I get rid of nasality easily? Umm and if you keep checking up on my progress I will be glad
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sing with your diaphragm and not your throat...singing should be effortless...if your throat hurts or you are exerting a lot of effort you are doing something wrong
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Updated, could you guys check if the Nasality decreased? Its just plain me singing the chorus and 1st set verse.
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sounds like ur holding it back.
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5/5, your version of uprising is the funniest thing ive heard in weeks, even if unintentional
mustve listened to it at least 20 times already, i think i love it even more than the original, I mean it's somewhat bad but you obviously picked the wrong song to do this, but now it sounds like a brilliant parody of the muse guy
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if you do one of bohemian rhapsody i will love you foreverevereverever
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test and test 2 sound a lot better imo
but youre too quiet and you should still pick a different song
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I don't see why people feel the need to be so rude, its been stated and shown he's looking to improve and this isn't a troll thread, it bugs me to see someone make fun of someone else whos trying hard to improve and then just get made fun of by select arseholes who give no constructive feedback but something along the lines of LOL FAIL. I wish you luck in your venture into vocals :3 Ill be checking back to see your progress :D
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On November 06 2009 08:16 Sad[Panda] wrote:
I don't see why people feel the need to be so rude, its been stated and shown he's looking to improve and this isn't a troll thread, it bugs me to see someone make fun of someone else whos trying hard to improve and then just get made fun of by select arseholes who give no constructive feedback but something along the lines of LOL FAIL. I wish you luck in your venture into vocals :3 Ill be checking back to see your progress :D
Settle down, if someone can't handle a bunch of laughs he shouldn't even attempt to be a singer. Not that it excuses the rude behavior but I don't really see anyone being rude here.
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On November 06 2009 07:57 7mk wrote:
test and test 2 sound a lot better imo
but youre too quiet and you should still pick a different song
Yeah, I dunnow what to pick at all im stuck in confusion :/ Uprising and muse in general is too hard for a beginner xD, and I still dont have to vocal capability to hit the notes in them etc. Do you guys have any recommendations?
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On November 06 2009 07:48 Frits wrote:
5/5, your version of uprising is the funniest thing ive heard in weeks, even if unintentional
mustve listened to it at least 20 times already, i think i love it even more than the original, I mean it's somewhat bad but you obviously picked the wrong song for to do this, but now it sounds like a brilliant parody of the muse guy
LOL! Its ok, getting bashed is good at the beginning, you see my goal is to take your comments and bashing as encouragement for me to get better ^^!
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On November 06 2009 08:16 Sad[Panda] wrote:
I don't see why people feel the need to be so rude, its been stated and shown he's looking to improve and this isn't a troll thread, it bugs me to see someone make fun of someone else whos trying hard to improve and then just get made fun of by select arseholes who give no constructive feedback but something along the lines of LOL FAIL. I wish you luck in your venture into vocals :3 Ill be checking back to see your progress :D
Thanks man, dont worry about them, its all laughs! Nothing will stop me, NOTHING! :D:D
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On November 06 2009 08:33 DragoonPK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 08:16 Sad[Panda] wrote:
I don't see why people feel the need to be so rude, its been stated and shown he's looking to improve and this isn't a troll thread, it bugs me to see someone make fun of someone else whos trying hard to improve and then just get made fun of by select arseholes who give no constructive feedback but something along the lines of LOL FAIL. I wish you luck in your venture into vocals :3 Ill be checking back to see your progress :D
Thanks man, dont worry about them, its all laughs! Nothing will stop me, NOTHING! :D:D
hahaha im glad m8 :D and as others say a different song would help
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On November 06 2009 08:31 DragoonPK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 07:57 7mk wrote:
test and test 2 sound a lot better imo
but youre too quiet and you should still pick a different song Yeah, I dunnow what to pick at all im stuck in confusion :/ Uprising and muse in general is too hard for a beginner xD, and I still dont have to vocal capability to hit the notes in them etc. Do you guys have any recommendations?
Well the thing is I don't have the slightest idea of which songs you can find an a capella version... although then again I'm not sure thats optimal anyways, because some vocals recorded with a shitty mic will always sound kinda ridiculous played to a professionally produced song.
Do you have a guitar/keyboard/piano or sth?
Try to think of a few of your favourite songs where you just generally feel like singing them.
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even though ur mic sucks, there's a lot of professional programs that can be used to add like "reverbs" or other efffects to your voice that makes it sound more studio like. You prob dont need it now if ur just practicing.
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Another question, do you guys know where I can find instrumentals ? I have been searching all over the place but its pretty hard to get ahold of them.
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meh just do it on a regular comp mic... who knows you might change your interest, and that 100$ thing would be a waste.... Keep singing, and believe it or not you'll actually KNOW if you're doing it correctly or not 100%, and you dont even ask. Once u get there i think then u should consider getting a mic, a very good mic. So this way you don't have to settle for a shitt 100$ one when you're really just practicing. Some very good ones, like the bluebird condenser mic costs like 300? and i heard its VERY good in comparsion to a lot of others. <-- i got it from a youtube video.
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On November 06 2009 12:39 YPang wrote:
meh just do it on a regular comp mic... who knows you might change your interest, and that 100$ thing would be a waste.... Keep singing, and believe it or not you'll actually KNOW if you're doing it correctly or not 100%, and you dont even ask. Once u get there i think then u should consider getting a mic, a very good mic. So this way you don't have to settle for a shitt 100$ one when you're really just practicing. Some very good ones, like the bluebird condenser mic costs like 300? and i heard its VERY good in comparsion to a lot of others. <-- i got it from a youtube video.
Did you check the last mp3 I put? Comments?
Also, http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rogue-Starter-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=519266 Should I get this to play along etc, its fucking cheap and reviews says its decent for a beginner
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look at what a simple editing can do to your voice...
I did it in less than 10 seconds.
http://www.2shared.com/file/8967663/e641671f/untitled.html
So if is getting a100 $ mic really worth it? I wouldn't say so, unless you're recording instrumental from the guitar, or doing actual studio work and need everything to be razor precise.
BTW: its getting better, still no power though.
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On November 06 2009 13:54 YPang wrote:look at what a simple editing can do to your voice... I did it in less than 10 seconds. http://www.2shared.com/file/8967663/e641671f/untitled.htmlSo if is getting a100 $ mic really worth it? I wouldn't say so, unless you're recording instrumental from the guitar, or doing actual studio work and need everything to be razor precise. BTW: its getting better, still no power though.
Do you know how I can enhance the power? Or was is it called exactly? Singing from my diaphragm ?
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iono, try singing with emotion a bit and see how loud you can scream. If you scream and your throat hurts, you're doing something wrong, or if ur singing for a long time and your throat starts to strain, you're also doing it wrong. In concerts guys sing/scream (for some bands) for like 3 hours and things are fine for them. SO yea if your throat is hurting ur doing something wrong.
also Especially for the chorus u'll need the strength in your voice to differitienate it from the rest of the song.
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Woah nice editing xD!, I will work on it it :D!
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Updated OP, YPang what program do you use and which effect etc ?
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lol wtf is this =p nice try man
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On November 06 2009 14:13 DragoonPK wrote:
Woah nice editing xD!, I will work on it it :D!
fl studio 9, reverb, and flangus, a bit of autotune as well i just selected it and it didn't seem to affect anything much. It's mostly a beat creating program, but its mixer function is more than most'll ever need anyways.
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Ok ill try to find out good programs for voice editing
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it's not too bad, especially after only a week. avoid those high parts though until you can control your voice better. but i thinks it's alright, nothing mind blowing but if you just want to sing in a small town band then it'd be fine.
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good :D! I will keep working harder, results will start showing differences in like a month !
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usually for the higher notes you should not feel any discomfort in your throat. And your coller bone should NOT be going either upwards or downwards dramatically. Infact collerbone should barely move, it moves occasionally for vowels and such. But yea w/e pitch you can sing w/o the collerbone moving too much is your range, anything above it or below it, you'll have a HARD time controlling, and may damadge your voice.
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On November 10 2009 13:18 YPang wrote:
usually for the higher notes you should not feel any discomfort in your throat. And your coller bone should NOT be going either upwards or downwards dramatically. Infact collerbone should barely move, it moves occasionally for vowels and such. But yea w/e pitch you can sing w/o the collerbone moving too much is your range, anything above it or below it, you'll have a HARD time controlling, and may damadge your voice.
Thanks for the advice, did you hear my last update?
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On November 10 2009 13:27 DragoonPK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 13:18 YPang wrote:
usually for the higher notes you should not feel any discomfort in your throat. And your coller bone should NOT be going either upwards or downwards dramatically. Infact collerbone should barely move, it moves occasionally for vowels and such. But yea w/e pitch you can sing w/o the collerbone moving too much is your range, anything above it or below it, you'll have a HARD time controlling, and may damadge your voice. Thanks for the advice, did you hear my last update?
yeah, and thats sorta my response for it, it was MUCH better than the other ones nevertheless.
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On November 10 2009 13:31 YPang wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 13:27 DragoonPK wrote:On November 10 2009 13:18 YPang wrote:
usually for the higher notes you should not feel any discomfort in your throat. And your coller bone should NOT be going either upwards or downwards dramatically. Infact collerbone should barely move, it moves occasionally for vowels and such. But yea w/e pitch you can sing w/o the collerbone moving too much is your range, anything above it or below it, you'll have a HARD time controlling, and may damadge your voice. Thanks for the advice, did you hear my last update? yeah, and thats sorta my response for it, it was MUCH better than the other ones nevertheless.
Thanks man :D, I am so grateful for someone to be listing to my performance and giving me tips, you sir is awesome!
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