• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:47
CET 11:47
KST 19:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
2025 POECurrency Christmas POE 2 Update 0.4.0 Curr 2025 IGGM Merry Christmas ARC Raiders Items Sale 2025 IGGM Christmas Diablo 4 Season 11 Items Sale 2025 IGGM Monopoly Go Christmas Sale Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1251 users

e-Sports in my school.

Blogs > Sharp-eYe
Post a Reply
Normal
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
October 31 2009 07:03 GMT
#1
Hello TL

I come from a school that is considered pretty big. Infact, it is apparently the largest high school in Ontario, Canada. Everyone plays games here.... but not the type one might think.

Everyone plays console games...

Anyway when most people in Canada in general think gaming, they think consoles.

Now lets take the game Guitar Hero. Sure its an amazing game. The fact that you can press coloured buttons on a plastic guitar rapidly with flashing lights sounds very fun. Infact, Guitar Hero is a great party game. However is it an e-Sport?

In my opinion, not really. Well sure its competitive, because you still need atleast 200 APM on those Guitars to really score points, but does it require any analytics at all? Maybe finger placement, or proper stances or what not, but there is no strategy involved at all. Even conventional sports require pre-game thinking. For example, in football, there are plays (our build orders) that are outlined, and practiced like a build order in sc, weeks ahead of the game. This goes for soccer, hockey, you name it. But Guitar Hero? I think not.

However, most people in my area really like it, including me. Its fun. I've only played it twice, but there is a slight magic to that game, just like there was when I first killed a zergling with a marine in sc. The devs really amde sure that the game was fun, and the guitars were not gimmicky. However, I still think its not an e-sport.

But, a music teacher in my school has opened up a Guitar Hero competition, with an entrance fee of 2 bucks.

When I first heard this, I facepalmed hard. But then I realized something: this is e-sports in the making. Sure its only a slight competition, but its something the entire school population enjoys, much like how Many Koreans, Chinese, and Russians enjoy computer games. I mean Guitar Hero was chosen over starcraft in the WCG last year. That's how popular it is.

Now should we be angry? Yes, because they took out SC OVER THIS SHT. But, we really shouldnt be, because this is our "e-sportS", and maybe society will make this an e-sport, and we might have our very own "BoxeR" in Guitar Hero, who shows us strategy, if any, behind the game.

Now I am hoping, this is just a fad, and that computer games will become popular amongst the population, much like how the 360 is now.

- Sharp-eYe

*
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 31 2009 07:07 GMT
#2
Wtf? Guitar Hero over SC? MADNESS!!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
October 31 2009 07:11 GMT
#3
north america is plagued by console "esports" because of the mlg.

but I guarantee the MLG picks up sc2
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 31 2009 07:14 GMT
#4
Cant forget Halo, very popular MLG game. I think, since I dont follow it.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
October 31 2009 07:14 GMT
#5
On October 31 2009 16:11 andeh wrote:
north america is plagued by console "esports" because of the mlg.

but I guarantee the MLG picks up sc2

i know eh? My friend wore an MLG shirt once.. I raged a bit. Also my other friend told me his friend is a "pro-gamer" in Halo
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
pandabearguy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States252 Posts
October 31 2009 08:12 GMT
#6
On October 31 2009 16:14 Sharp-eYe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 16:11 andeh wrote:
north america is plagued by console "esports" because of the mlg.

but I guarantee the MLG picks up sc2

i know eh? My friend wore an MLG shirt once.. I raged a bit. Also my other friend told me his friend is a "pro-gamer" in Halo


i uh

i don't understand why this is rage-worthy or why your friend's friend can't be a halo pro
aka [ucr]pandabearg. much <3
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 31 2009 08:15 GMT
#7
i liked the read and agree share the same thoughts as you OP

especially the falmpalm @ GH
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 31 2009 08:16 GMT
#8
You're making a mistake by calling it "esports"
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 08:30:05
October 31 2009 08:27 GMT
#9
scorn those halo and guitar hero playing noobs

not tr00 e-sports !

also, he's a music teacher dude. of course he is going to do guitar hero and not starcraft because guitar hero is associated with music (loosely...)
HEY MEYT
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 31 2009 08:30 GMT
#10
I don't share your go esports!!! attitude because I don't care about about any esport other than starcraft.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 08:42:21
October 31 2009 08:41 GMT
#11
GH is retarded cmon!
You "play" with plastic "guitar" and it´s so cool........

I really don´t see the point, if you want to play music you could use Winamp or something like that and if you want to play an instrument, you play an instrument. You can also put some music playing from your player and play along, it´s just like GH but not compeletely retarded and doesn´t have flashy lights or points shown to you in tv-screen....

Yes I have tried it.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
John49ers
Profile Joined May 2009
United States237 Posts
October 31 2009 09:22 GMT
#12
I've always wanted to try playing GH out of curiosity. Nice read.
“The beauty of Bill's system was that there was always a place to go with the ball, ... I was the mailman, just delivering people's mail, and there were all kinds of houses to go to.”-Joe Montana
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
October 31 2009 09:24 GMT
#13
On October 31 2009 17:41 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
GH is retarded cmon!
You "play" with plastic "guitar" and it´s so cool........

I really don´t see the point, if you want to play music you could use Winamp or something like that and if you want to play an instrument, you play an instrument. You can also put some music playing from your player and play along, it´s just like GH but not compeletely retarded and doesn´t have flashy lights or points shown to you in tv-screen....

Yes I have tried it.


it makes people that cant play a real guitar / too lazy to learn feel good about themselves
HEY MEYT
pandabearguy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States252 Posts
October 31 2009 11:11 GMT
#14
On October 31 2009 18:24 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 17:41 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
GH is retarded cmon!
You "play" with plastic "guitar" and it´s so cool........

I really don´t see the point, if you want to play music you could use Winamp or something like that and if you want to play an instrument, you play an instrument. You can also put some music playing from your player and play along, it´s just like GH but not compeletely retarded and doesn´t have flashy lights or points shown to you in tv-screen....

Yes I have tried it.


it makes people that cant play a real guitar / too lazy to learn feel good about themselves


yes exactly, but i mean they still have fun even though real guitar is better. it's just like how some people still play starcraft because they're not good enough to play warcraft 3 which is better in every aspect and they have fun with it
aka [ucr]pandabearg. much <3
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
October 31 2009 11:20 GMT
#15
well fun is the most important thing
HEY MEYT
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
October 31 2009 11:25 GMT
#16
On October 31 2009 20:11 pandabearguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 18:24 JohnColtrane wrote:
On October 31 2009 17:41 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
GH is retarded cmon!
You "play" with plastic "guitar" and it´s so cool........

I really don´t see the point, if you want to play music you could use Winamp or something like that and if you want to play an instrument, you play an instrument. You can also put some music playing from your player and play along, it´s just like GH but not compeletely retarded and doesn´t have flashy lights or points shown to you in tv-screen....

Yes I have tried it.


it makes people that cant play a real guitar / too lazy to learn feel good about themselves


yes exactly, but i mean they still have fun even though real guitar is better. it's just like how some people still play starcraft because they're not good enough to play warcraft 3 which is better in every aspect and they have fun with it


...
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
~_~
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada239 Posts
October 31 2009 14:54 GMT
#17
On October 31 2009 20:11 pandabearguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 18:24 JohnColtrane wrote:
On October 31 2009 17:41 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
GH is retarded cmon!
You "play" with plastic "guitar" and it´s so cool........

I really don´t see the point, if you want to play music you could use Winamp or something like that and if you want to play an instrument, you play an instrument. You can also put some music playing from your player and play along, it´s just like GH but not compeletely retarded and doesn´t have flashy lights or points shown to you in tv-screen....

Yes I have tried it.


it makes people that cant play a real guitar / too lazy to learn feel good about themselves


yes exactly, but i mean they still have fun even though real guitar is better. it's just like how some people still play starcraft because they're not good enough to play warcraft 3 which is better in every aspect and they have fun with it


5/5
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
October 31 2009 15:42 GMT
#18
organize and mobilize. do people KNOW starcraft = win?
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
October 31 2009 16:19 GMT
#19
On October 31 2009 20:11 pandabearguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 18:24 JohnColtrane wrote:
On October 31 2009 17:41 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
GH is retarded cmon!
You "play" with plastic "guitar" and it´s so cool........

I really don´t see the point, if you want to play music you could use Winamp or something like that and if you want to play an instrument, you play an instrument. You can also put some music playing from your player and play along, it´s just like GH but not compeletely retarded and doesn´t have flashy lights or points shown to you in tv-screen....

Yes I have tried it.


it makes people that cant play a real guitar / too lazy to learn feel good about themselves


yes exactly, but i mean they still have fun even though real guitar is better. it's just like how some people still play starcraft because they're not good enough to play warcraft 3 which is better in every aspect and they have fun with it

lol :D
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
October 31 2009 16:41 GMT
#20
I would argue that while SC is easily the best game ever, Guitar Hero and Rock Band are more fun. That's probably why they have a wider audience - and they're easier to pick up.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 31 2009 16:51 GMT
#21
music teacher will fucking bunr
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
October 31 2009 16:54 GMT
#22
On October 31 2009 20:11 pandabearguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 18:24 JohnColtrane wrote:
On October 31 2009 17:41 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
GH is retarded cmon!
You "play" with plastic "guitar" and it´s so cool........

I really don´t see the point, if you want to play music you could use Winamp or something like that and if you want to play an instrument, you play an instrument. You can also put some music playing from your player and play along, it´s just like GH but not compeletely retarded and doesn´t have flashy lights or points shown to you in tv-screen....

Yes I have tried it.


it makes people that cant play a real guitar / too lazy to learn feel good about themselves


yes exactly, but i mean they still have fun even though real guitar is better. it's just like how some people still play starcraft because they're not good enough to play warcraft 3 which is better in every aspect and they have fun with it

Yes, but finding a group of 4 people who like video games to make a new band on Rock Band is a hell of a lot easier than finding a person who plays guitar/bass/drums and a good singer to make an actual band.

And I'll ignore the part about War3 because I don't want to flame.
Writer
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
October 31 2009 20:29 GMT
#23
why are you guys bashing on guitar hero..calling it people who cant play feel good about themselves? wtf its a video game.... having that guitar makes it feel more real and fun to play and thats the whole point of buying guitar hero. some points in here are retarded
troi oi thang map nai!!!
category
Profile Joined July 2009
United States85 Posts
October 31 2009 21:39 GMT
#24
i'm guessing the war3 comment was a troll. i mean, it has to be, right?
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
October 31 2009 21:52 GMT
#25
It wasn't a troll, it was highlighting why people who bash guitar hero for being worse than playing an actual guitar have no fucking clue what they're talking about.
skating
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
PiGosaur Cup #62
CranKy Ducklings183
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
trigger 83
BRAT_OK 83
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2475
Sea 1579
Bisu 1313
Horang2 955
Shuttle 617
BeSt 535
Stork 412
Mini 398
Larva 344
ToSsGirL 203
[ Show more ]
actioN 146
Last 138
EffOrt 105
Sharp 102
Barracks 62
ggaemo 60
sorry 51
Mind 45
Sexy 31
NaDa 23
Sacsri 17
GoRush 17
Terrorterran 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Shinee 10
JulyZerg 7
Noble 7
zelot 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe347
League of Legends
C9.Mang0460
rGuardiaN109
Counter-Strike
zeus234
edward1
Other Games
summit1g10322
singsing1057
ceh9447
Fuzer 317
crisheroes282
Mew2King44
B2W.Neo2
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1395
Other Games
gamesdonequick1095
BasetradeTV41
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1h 13m
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Big Brain Bouts
1d 6h
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.