Forgive me if this sounds too stupid of a question but I've recently gotten into a serious argument with my friend over my favorite animal...
I've always liked wolves. No question about it, they are my favorite animal. But my friend, who's a huge dinosaur lover, keeps saying that any decent dino could kill an infinite number of wolves. I then said without thinking first that I thought 50 wolves would easily be able to take down a Tyrannosaurus rex. He promptly laughed at my claim and dismissed it as balony. Being the wolf enthusiast I am, I promptly started looking on the internet to proove him wrong. Since I have no scientific background, I didn't have much luck. Although I found reports of starving wolves killing brown bears in the winter for food in Siberia, even I have to admit that taking down a brown bear is one thing and taking down a T-rex is quite another. So could anyone with some scientific knowledge settle our debate as to how many wolves it would take to kill a T-rex?
A T-rex, despite its huge mass, has a very small brain. The brain of a T-rex cannot be bigger than that of a wolf. Therefore, it will have a hard time coping with wolves.
Second of all, wolves are good team players. They will surround the T-rex and attack it from all sides. Some may even scale up toward the back and attack there. A T-rex will have difficulty handling this.
While a T-rex can easily take down a single wolf in enough time, the damage inflicted by the individual wolves will eventually cause the T-rex to succumb to its injuries.
However that brings up a point against the wolves. The amount of damage the wolves can inflict against a T-rex is very small, if you look at each individual wolf and its biting capacity and clawing capacity.
In the end, however, I still believe the wolves have the advantage. With faster reflexes and a more agile build, it is capable of quick movement and reaction. The T-rex, as an attacker, is slow to react, and has an awful targeting system, so to speak. It relies on the enormous mass of its prey to be able to hit it. Hence, smaller prey are at an advantage because of the difficulty of aiming and scoring a hit.
Does this make sense? Hope I've been helpful to your cause.
I don't think that wolves can jump too high and wouldn't be able to reach anything more than the T-Rex legs and inflict minimal damage in a non vital area.
Besides, i think a T-Rex should be able to kill or disable a wolf in just one bite (15 seconds, maybe?) so i don't think any reasonable amount of wolves could kill a T-Rex.
On September 14 2009 02:55 Draconizard wrote: What mechanism would you use to ensure that the wolves actually attack the thing? Their first reaction would probably be to bolt and run.
I'm sure that wolves would never attack such a huge animal. But let's assume they did. Wolves are superior in numbers, speed, stamina and intelligence. I guess even 15 wolves could do it if they use their advantages wisely. Surround, bite the dinosaur somewhere, retreat, let it chase after one wolf while 5 others harass him from behind. Repeat until the T-rex breaks down from exhaustion and lots of small injuries. Or jumps off a cliff because it is so stupid
Lions team up to take down hippopotamuses, which, although they individually could take out two or three lions, are incapable of fighting off 5 or 10. A few lions in front distract them, while another two or three jump on the hippopotamus back and bite/claw its skin. They can easily disable it within a few minutes this way, as the hippopotamus is incapable of reaching its back. I imagine it would be the same way with the T-Rex, considering its pretty obvious that physically a T-Rex wouldn't be able to reach its own back.
Wolves have strong jaws and sharp teeth, but how sure are we that they are able to pierce a T-Rex's skin? I think the guy who said 15 wolves is way off... if 15 wolves could take down a T-Rex then wouldn't small packs of velociraptors be killing T-Rex's all the time?
Would the T-rex be susceptible to fatigue? If so, then obviously a T-rex could not take on an "infinite" amount of wolves. But the more realistic view is that I wonder is how the jaw power and teeth would work against a reptilian skin, especially where there are no parts (beside the tip of the tail, which I would assume could whip around really fast) where the wolf could actually fully bite down on and be able to use the full potential of its jaw. First of all, a wolf could take down a brown bear because the bear has a softer skin and its legs are smaller and easy to bite down on with the full force of the jaw.
We don't even know if a wolf could pierce the skin of a Tyrannosaurus, and the is literally no way they can jump up 5 or 6 meter to reach for the neck. It sounds unlikely that any number of wolves could take down a T-rex, as much as I like wolves and stupid childish scenarios like this one
On September 14 2009 03:14 s.a.y wrote: 5-10 at max.
maybe even 3.
ROFL tell me you are joking...cuz if you are serious about that, you are beyond uneducated.
The T-rex could take down other large dinosaurs, and could handle ones like the raptor, but you assume that 3 little wolves would be capable of taking it down? It's 20ft tall, the only thing they are going to be biting at are his feet. How do you even know if their bite is capable of breaking through his skin, especially his leg / feet skin which would be even tougher than his softer areas due to calluses(his feet crush small trees as he walks).
The strength of his tail alone would probably kill every wolf standing in it's path. The dinosaur was 7tons, I think throwing that weight around would surely kill however many wolves were gathered. I don't think he would try and use his jaws on them, due to his small arms and clunky size, but all the thing would have to do is step on them, and they would smoosh like goo.
If I remember, that particular T-Rex is constantly foiled and subjugated by a stuffed tiger, girl from down the street, and two middle-aged, slightly bored adult humans.
On September 14 2009 03:14 s.a.y wrote: 5-10 at max.
maybe even 3.
ROFL tell me you are joking...cuz if you are serious about that, you are beyond uneducated.
The T-rex could take down other large dinosaurs, and could handle ones like the raptor, but you assume that 3 little wolves would be capable of taking it down? It's 20ft tall, the only thing they are going to be biting at are his feet. How do you even know if their bite is capable of breaking through his skin, especially his leg / feet skin which would be even tougher than his softer areas due to calluses(his feet crush small trees as he walks).
The strength of his tail alone would probably kill every wolf standing in it's path. The dinosaur was 7tons, I think throwing that weight around would surely kill however many wolves were gathered. I don't think he would try and use his jaws on them, due to his small arms and clunky size, but all the thing would have to do is step on them, and they would smoosh like goo.
dood.
he may be 40ft tall, but he has a brain a size of a shrunken testicle. wolfs are smart as dogs. and did you see the size of t-rex hands, he can't even masterbate?
6-7 wolfes would destroy them in 20 seconds.
compare that to archon vs 7 zerglings with proper micro.
On September 14 2009 03:14 s.a.y wrote: 5-10 at max.
maybe even 3.
ROFL tell me you are joking...cuz if you are serious about that, you are beyond uneducated.
The T-rex could take down other large dinosaurs, and could handle ones like the raptor, but you assume that 3 little wolves would be capable of taking it down? It's 20ft tall, the only thing they are going to be biting at are his feet. How do you even know if their bite is capable of breaking through his skin, especially his leg / feet skin which would be even tougher than his softer areas due to calluses(his feet crush small trees as he walks).
The strength of his tail alone would probably kill every wolf standing in it's path. The dinosaur was 7tons, I think throwing that weight around would surely kill however many wolves were gathered. I don't think he would try and use his jaws on them, due to his small arms and clunky size, but all the thing would have to do is step on them, and they would smoosh like goo.
That except modern researchers suggest that the T-rex was a scavenger, and not fit to fight.
And, wolves have been shown to have a great learning reflex. Therefore as soon as they saw a couple of fellow wolves swept off by the tail, they'd know to avoid it.
Wolf enamel is strong enough to pierce the skin of dinosaurs because back in the prehistoric era dinosaurs could pierce the skin of other dinosaurs with their teeth, including the T-rex which sustained damage from other dinosaurs, such as the triceratops. Modern biology shows that mammal bone density (and teeth density, which is a derivative) is stronger than that of reptilian bone density in the prehistoric era. Enamel, in addition, is even more dense than standard bone. Therefore, wolves can pierce the skin of a T-rex with bites.
On September 14 2009 03:51 Halfpastnoob wrote: T-rex= Ten Zealots One wolf= one ling
One T-rex(10 zealots) vs. 50 wolves(50 lings)=dead T-rex
a more apt comparison would probably be T-rex = reaver, wolf = ling. 1v1, the wolf will never win, but with proper surround and strength in numbers, the wolf will be able to take down the T-rex
On September 14 2009 03:51 Halfpastnoob wrote: T-rex= Ten Zealots One wolf= one ling
One T-rex(10 zealots) vs. 50 wolves(50 lings)=dead T-rex
a more apt comparison would probably be T-rex = reaver, wolf = ling. 1v1, the wolf will never win, but with proper surround and strength in numbers, the wolf will be able to take down the T-rex
On September 14 2009 04:07 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Sounds like a very serious conversation. Thousands of them. The trex would have to kill so many wolves it died of exhaustion.
wolves would never attack such a godlike creature. end of discussion.
and yeah wolves are smart, but the T-rex was massive. people seem to forget he can power sweep with his tail and that would fuck any number of respectable wolves up. even superior wolves.
On September 14 2009 04:10 251 wrote: wolves would never attack such a godlike creature. end of discussion.
and yeah wolves are smart, but the T-rex was massive. people seem to forget he can power sweep with his tail and that would fuck any number of respectable wolves up. even superior wolves.
yeah those god damn things were like 30 feet tall im pretty sure he could just eat each one in succession without any worries because if one tried to latch onto his neck or anything he could just stand up and the fall would fuck it up.
Of course a massively unrealistic number would be able to get it done eventually.
Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.
The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf. You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote: Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.
The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf. You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.
Optimus Prime is intelligent and agile.
Ten men could beat a 60-foot-tall rock to bits given the time.
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote: The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf. You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.
I am inclined to call you stupid for that, and inderictly I actualy did in this sentence. But then again we are discussing how many wolves it takes to own a tyrannosaurus. Transformers is fiction, in real life there is something called inertia. The pace at which the Transformers move and especially turn is not possible to achieve. That's like saying how many men does it take to take down the Stay Puft Marshmellow Man and the answer is 4.
The question is, how thick/resistant was the skin of a tyranosaurus. If Wolf teeth can't cut through, wolves have a bit of a problem. If they can attack his legs, the dinosaur will lose to a much lower number than 50.
There comes a point where the size difference will more than make up for any numbers advantage within reason, and I believe the t-rex - wolf size disparity is within that range, so my answer is an obscenely large number of wolves.
The T Rex existed 65 million years ago. The Gray Wolf is estimated to have originated about 300 thousand years ago. If you put the two into the same time period, their immune systems will be entirely different - the T Rex will have absolutely no defense against what it is eating. The modern diseases and bacteria in a single Gray Wolf would be more than enough to take down a T Rex.
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote: Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.
The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf. You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.
Optimus Prime is intelligent and agile.
Ten men could beat a 60-foot-tall rock to bits given the time.
You think a T-rex isn't agile? Of course it is.
Can you clarify the question a bit more... are the wolves and the T-rex locked in an arena or something?
Because otherwise to kill a T-rex they would have to catch it first. If wolves did attack the T-rex would obviously just run away. Yes wolves are faster at a sprint but they can't maintain that for long periods of time. The T-rex would be able to move at a considerable pace for a long time.
Say they are in an arena it would still take a ridiculous amount of wolves to kill the T-rex. Even then they aren't going to be able to do much damage.
A wolf jaw would be utterly useless in an attack. The T-rex won't be stationary long enough for the wolf to get a grip and even if it could somehow open wide enough to bite something the jaw of a wolf is not powerful enough to do any damage. Wolves only have their jaws to attack with, without any claws or secondary means of attack they would be utterly useless against the T-rex. If the T-rex can't run away then the wolf can't either. 50 wolves in an arena with a T-rex would be a massacre. The rex would annihilate all of them. It would be just like Optimus prime vs 50 men as someone suggested.
On September 14 2009 06:14 Ideas wrote: it depends on what materials the T-rex's house is made out of.
Not enough people have lol'd at this post to do it justice.
4 meters tall is too big for the wolves to take down using their conventional methods. Ignoring guerilla tactics (no one likes a camper), from my research* it takes at least 40 wolves.
Some people are forgetting that the T-Rex is mostly likely pretty dumb, despite the huge size, while the wolves are smart. Its like one huge Forrest Gump vs a shitload of tiny Jack Bauers or Houses or some really smart guy. Eventually giant Gump is gonna fall, one way or the other.
On September 14 2009 03:14 s.a.y wrote: 5-10 at max.
maybe even 3.
ROFL tell me you are joking...cuz if you are serious about that, you are beyond uneducated.
The T-rex could take down other large dinosaurs, and could handle ones like the raptor, but you assume that 3 little wolves would be capable of taking it down? It's 20ft tall, the only thing they are going to be biting at are his feet. How do you even know if their bite is capable of breaking through his skin, especially his leg / feet skin which would be even tougher than his softer areas due to calluses(his feet crush small trees as he walks).
The strength of his tail alone would probably kill every wolf standing in it's path. The dinosaur was 7tons, I think throwing that weight around would surely kill however many wolves were gathered. I don't think he would try and use his jaws on them, due to his small arms and clunky size, but all the thing would have to do is step on them, and they would smoosh like goo.
dood.
he may be 40ft tall, but he has a brain a size of a shrunken testicle. wolfs are smart as dogs. and did you see the size of t-rex hands, he can't even masterbate?
6-7 wolfes would destroy them in 20 seconds.
compare that to archon vs 7 zerglings with proper micro.
Problem with your brain argument is that a T-rex doesn't need a huge brain. He just needs the part that drives him to kill.
According to wiki and other sources through Google, a T-rex is not 40 feet tall, thats its length. A trex is only 20ft tall at max since its roughly 13ft at the hip. The t-rex skin is said to be similar to that of the alligators but more bumpy and probably somewhat tougher as well. According to sources and google conversion, a t-rex can weight up to 6168 kilograms while the heaviest recording wolf only weights at 79kg. This gives the trex about 70 times the weight of the largest wolf recorded and an average wolf is only about 36kg. It is recorded that the biting capacity of a wolf is 1,000 to 1,500 pounds of pressure per square inch. Lets assume thats the average and give the largest wolves as heavy as the one above 1800 PSI. After all of this, I suspect that a wolfbite will do little to no pain to a t-rex, given that it can acctualy bite it at full force. The legs of the t-rex is so big that the wolves might not be able to apply full pressure and even if it could, the T-rex probably experience more pain and damage by steppign on rocks on a daily basis compared to a few bites.
Another thing that has been stated in this thread is the wolve's intelligent and the T-rex lack of. If the wolves are as smart as any of you said then it wont even try attacking the t-rex even driven by hunger. Assuming that it does, a starving wolf wont be able to diss out the maximum amount of damage that it normally would have and this plays more into the t-rex favor.
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote: Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.
The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf. You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.
Optimus Prime is intelligent and agile.
Ten men could beat a 60-foot-tall rock to bits given the time.
You think a T-rex isn't agile? Of course it is.
Can you clarify the question a bit more... are the wolves and the T-rex locked in an arena or something?
Because otherwise to kill a T-rex they would have to catch it first. If wolves did attack the T-rex would obviously just run away. Yes wolves are faster at a sprint but they can't maintain that for long periods of time. The T-rex would be able to move at a considerable pace for a long time.
Say they are in an arena it would still take a ridiculous amount of wolves to kill the T-rex. Even then they aren't going to be able to do much damage.
A wolf jaw would be utterly useless in an attack. The T-rex won't be stationary long enough for the wolf to get a grip and even if it could somehow open wide enough to bite something the jaw of a wolf is not powerful enough to do any damage. Wolves only have their jaws to attack with, without any claws or secondary means of attack they would be utterly useless against the T-rex. If the T-rex can't run away then the wolf can't either. 50 wolves in an arena with a T-rex would be a massacre. The rex would annihilate all of them. It would be just like Optimus prime vs 50 men as someone suggested.
Research has suggested the T-rex was a scavenger, and that it had no way of moving quickly, given its weight on its legs.
It therefore, as far as science can tell us, is not agile.
On September 14 2009 03:56 Stormer wrote: Don't most animals have arteries in their legs? Most predators aim for the neck or the arteries in extremities...
they have tendons though... if those gets ripped then good luck running
Real question to me: is the Trex smart enough to just step on the wolves to kill them? Because if it is, it could take a shitload more wolves on than it could just tail sweeping and biting and waving its little human arms
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote: Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.
The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf. You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.
Optimus Prime is intelligent and agile.
Ten men could beat a 60-foot-tall rock to bits given the time.
You think a T-rex isn't agile? Of course it is.
Can you clarify the question a bit more... are the wolves and the T-rex locked in an arena or something?
Because otherwise to kill a T-rex they would have to catch it first. If wolves did attack the T-rex would obviously just run away. Yes wolves are faster at a sprint but they can't maintain that for long periods of time. The T-rex would be able to move at a considerable pace for a long time.
Say they are in an arena it would still take a ridiculous amount of wolves to kill the T-rex. Even then they aren't going to be able to do much damage.
A wolf jaw would be utterly useless in an attack. The T-rex won't be stationary long enough for the wolf to get a grip and even if it could somehow open wide enough to bite something the jaw of a wolf is not powerful enough to do any damage. Wolves only have their jaws to attack with, without any claws or secondary means of attack they would be utterly useless against the T-rex. If the T-rex can't run away then the wolf can't either. 50 wolves in an arena with a T-rex would be a massacre. The rex would annihilate all of them. It would be just like Optimus prime vs 50 men as someone suggested.
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You are wrong good sir. T rex to fast to be attacked? your saying a t rex is comparable to a mutalisk. and last i checked T-rex does not have wings. T-rex would have to be stationary while its killing a target (no moving and chewing allowed, hello shrunken testies for a brain ) During this time the rest of the wolves 30+ are jumping clawing tearing flesh from the T-Rex, and it was posted earlier that wolves teeth can pierce the skin of a T-rex. After a short while a tendon will have been damaged enough to make the T-rex immobile, and then short work to finish him off.
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote: Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.
The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf. You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.
i dunno where ur getting ur info t-rex was not like 40 feet tall
even wikipedia says it's 13ft tall at the hips, so probably less than 20 feet total (given that it is like 40 feet long)
I can not really see a wolf pack inflicting much damage to a T-Rex. maybe a smaller dino would have been a better pick. Maybe some raptor or wolf action.
lol t-rex would barrel roll an infinite amount of wolves to death. wolves would have a chance if the whole pack harassed the rex for a really long time until the rex dies of exhaustion
On September 14 2009 06:14 Lemonwalrus wrote: How many ants would it take to kill a human?
There comes a point where the size difference will more than make up for any numbers advantage within reason, and I believe the t-rex - wolf size disparity is within that range, so my answer is an obscenely large number of wolves.
have you seen the recent indiana jones? ants rocked humans.
Can a wolf open its jaws to 180 degrees? Because unless it's biting the toes, the leg should be large enough that it would be like biting a wall.
Also, if the wolves can go for the legs, the dinosaur can step on them or kick them. They weight several tons. What happens when people get hit by cars at slow speeds? Trying to trip a t-rex, so the wolves whose best advantage is being more agile, are going to use a tactic that's guaranteed to downsize their numbers? They're going to trip over something one hundredth of their weight?
And assuming the trex fought other dinosaurs, it's used to fighting several ton dinosaurs with several feet long horns, or claws. I doubt they would suffer serious wounds from dinky little inch long claws barely scratching the surface of the skin.
I doubt any number of wolves could kill it in under an hour. If they were to strategize, they could wait until it falls asleep or deny it food until it collapses.
On September 14 2009 09:37 Draconizard wrote: This argument is about as intellectually stimulating as the question of how many unarmed midgets it'd take to kill an adult male lion.
On September 14 2009 09:37 Draconizard wrote: This argument is about as intellectually stimulating as the question of how many unarmed midgets it'd take to kill an adult male lion.
What is the T Rex has really thick skin and the wolf bites are not strong enough to damage it?
Plus, wolves are probably too small to hit any vital organs of the T Rax, they can just blister its feet, leg and tail.
Its like a human being going against a horde of Chiwawas, I guess.
Meanwhile, I bite of T-Rex with those HUGE HUGE teeth and jaw would tear apart any wolf in a single bite. I would say, its unbeatable. Lions could take the call maybe...
T-rex could choke on wolf bodies. I mean fifty wolves is alot, plus he's dumb, constantly harrassed, probably dog tired, more injured by his own frantic evasion procedures, and This would drag out for days.
Even if the dogs can't hurt him, they will keep annoy him to death. Its really like husband v wife.
On September 14 2009 10:35 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: think of this as vultures vs ultras micro. 1 could do it, but its easier for many. plus you might run out of fuel.
Uh ya no wolves don't even have any weaponry so clearly your argument is invalid.
The wolves will probably attack the legs and after few bites, i'm pretty sure the t-rex's legs will wear out and fall and then bunch of wolves would just pounce the t-rex and rape the s*** out of it. So about a pack of 30 wolves should do. Like 10 for the legs and rest to gang bang the t-rex when its down.
It also depends on how strong t-rex's hide i guess. If its really sturdy, then no amount of wolves would be able to bite through it, well if you get couple thousand wolves you're bound to take down the t-rex.
The problem with t-rex is that most of its weight is rested upon its two legs. Its like how tall people like yao ming gets injured often, its a lot of pressure that these two legs are experiencing, so if it becomes slightly injured, it would prove troublesome to the t-rex.
I kind of doubt that a wolf could even penetrate the T-Rex's leathery hide... If you've ever seen Planet Earth there's this scene where like 20 lions take down a baby elephant (pretty dope... everyone needs to see this btw) but it takes a helluva effort just because the lions can't break through the elephant's hide. Wolves have less powerful jaws than lions and I imagine a T-Rex would have a much tougher hide than an elephant so I'd have to say: T-Rex > any # of wolves... QED.
On September 14 2009 07:38 El.Divino wrote: Research has suggested the T-rex was a scavenger, and that it had no way of moving quickly, given its weight on its legs.
This isn't a reasonable argument simply because it ruins all of the awesome T-Rex fight scenes going on in my head right now.
As someone previously mentioned, chances are that wolves would have never attacked a T-rex (even if they lived in the same time period). Animals generally avoid attacking creatures larger then them unless they are in sufficient numbers and I do not think a normal wolf pack has enough wolves to take on something as big as a T-rex.
As for the predator vs. scavenger thing, the T-rex was both. Infact, active predators generally do not mind scavenging or even stealing food from other predators if they have the chance. The T-rex`s size also worked in it`s favour as it could intimidate smaller predators from the prey they killed.
All the wolves would need to do is inflict enough damage to rip or at least disable the tendon in the ankle, once thats down the animal is crippled. Also, since wolves primarily hunt in the thick of the woods, the T-rexs mobility would be severely hampered. I'd say about a dozen could get the job done
On September 14 2009 02:38 MantaRay wrote: Forgive me if this sounds too stupid of a question but I've recently gotten into a serious argument with my friend over my favorite animal...
I've always liked wolves. No question about it, they are my favorite animal. But my friend, who's a huge dinosaur lover, keeps saying that any decent dino could kill an infinite number of wolves. I then said without thinking first that I thought 50 wolves would easily be able to take down a Tyrannosaurus rex. He promptly laughed at my claim and dismissed it as balony. Being the wolf enthusiast I am, I promptly started looking on the internet to proove him wrong. Since I have no scientific background, I didn't have much luck. Although I found reports of starving wolves killing brown bears in the winter for food in Siberia, even I have to admit that taking down a brown bear is one thing and taking down a T-rex is quite another. So could anyone with some scientific knowledge settle our debate as to how many wolves it would take to kill a T-rex?
ok the only way to solve the matter is if someone codes a video game (hell you could even change a few minor things and make the 'how many 3 year olds can you take?' game) The t-rex goes in the middle and there are 30 or so wolves around. The t-rex roars or does some kind of signalling motion every time (for like .1/.2 seconds) before it attacks. So your job is to just cycle through all the wolves going (unit switch, attack) over and over. So like football games you can press the unit select button or another button and it will automatically select the unit closest to the football/t-rex mouth and then you can pull back and try to dodge or whatever. So like the t-rex will take X amount of bites/scratches before he dies (say like 2000) which would be something like 60-80 bites from each wolf. It'd be hard, it'd also be fun. So once you beat the regular mode, then you unlock harder challenges. Less wolves, or more HP t-rex, or cornered t-rex who eats 2-3 wolves stacked on a bite. Then custom mode where you can create simple maps and change other previously mentioned factors to desired challenge.
the tyrannosaur would just stomp them into the ground. it's certainly more than 50, the T-Rex would kill dozens of them with every stomp/kick/mouth bite. the wolves won't really even damage him. obviously, a T-Rex can't take infinite wolves. at some point, the T-Rex will lose, whether from exhaustion or old age. but assuming the T-Rex doesn't have to eat or sleep, and the wolves can't stack on top of each other in some sort of giant dense wolf wall, a T-Rex can kill wolves all day.
if the T-Rex's energy is finite, then the answer is as many wolves as a T-Rex can kill without physically dying of exhaustion, which is a hell of a lot more than 50.
Ok, on some TV show on Nat Geo or Discovery, I heard that while T-Rex's can sprint very fast, they have very little maneuverability side to side, and considering how agile and intelligent wolves are in comparison, it would actually be really hard for a T-Rex to score a blow on a wolf. Also, a wolf's teeth would be able to penetrate a T-Rex hide. Perhaps not a lot, but enough for blood to start coming out. I think maybe as few as 5 wolves would be able to do it.
Realistically though, a single wolf bite could probably impart enough modern bacteria to give the T-Rex and it's prehistoric immune system a fatal infection.
As far as I'm concerned it's fairly easy. The Wolves need to completely swarm the T-Rex to take it down, one wolf is no more than a nuisance. It's much like ants vs humans, one is not a problem but a swarm like those migrating tropical ones (or if you want to bring back painful memories, like those in Indiana Jones 4) can easily kill a human. So really I approximate that to properly swarm a T-Rex you need 3x-10x its weight in wolves. So: 14 000 * 3+ / 100 = 420+
The wolves probably can't fight the T-rex head-on, so would probably need to do a lot of harassment. Like when the T-rex is sleeping, they can dash in, take a few bites and run away and then repeat until the T-rex is dead. All I can say is don't underestimate how strong a pack of wolves can be.
On September 14 2009 05:50 forgotten0ne wrote: Come on guys, have we not learned anything from Starcraft. It takes 9 zerglings to kill an ultralisk, so it must take 9 wolves to kill a T-rex.
...unless of course the wolves have an attack speed upgrade...
Best thread i've ever seen. Gives me a chance to use my scientific knowledge.
10 wolves at most. The T-Rex wouldn't be able to attack more than one or two at a time. Wolves would go in and hamstring the fucker. Once thats done, the dinosaur is fucked.
Think about it, as cool as T-Rex are, they never attacked large groups of other dinosaurs. They were a scavenger, preying on the weak and the young. Add this to the fact that wolves are also very cool, and you've got yourself a certified scientified answer.
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote: Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.
The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf. You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.
Optimus Prime is intelligent and agile.
Ten men could beat a 60-foot-tall rock to bits given the time.
You think a T-rex isn't agile? Of course it is.
Can you clarify the question a bit more... are the wolves and the T-rex locked in an arena or something?
Because otherwise to kill a T-rex they would have to catch it first. If wolves did attack the T-rex would obviously just run away. Yes wolves are faster at a sprint but they can't maintain that for long periods of time. The T-rex would be able to move at a considerable pace for a long time.
Say they are in an arena it would still take a ridiculous amount of wolves to kill the T-rex. Even then they aren't going to be able to do much damage.
A wolf jaw would be utterly useless in an attack. The T-rex won't be stationary long enough for the wolf to get a grip and even if it could somehow open wide enough to bite something the jaw of a wolf is not powerful enough to do any damage. Wolves only have their jaws to attack with, without any claws or secondary means of attack they would be utterly useless against the T-rex. If the T-rex can't run away then the wolf can't either. 50 wolves in an arena with a T-rex would be a massacre. The rex would annihilate all of them. It would be just like Optimus prime vs 50 men as someone suggested.
Research has suggested the T-rex was a scavenger, and that it had no way of moving quickly, given its weight on its legs.
It therefore, as far as science can tell us, is not agile.
Definition: Agility is the ability to move and change direction and position of the body quickly and effectively while under control.
I've read that wiki page just like you have and scientists agree that the Rex is a hunter as well as a scavenger so it would need to be somewhat agile. Think about how the tail would help in redistributing weight and also as someone mentioned it is not especially tall relative to it's length. It's center of gravity would not be high when attacking as it would stoop over.
On September 14 2009 08:13 StorrZerg wrote: You are wrong good sir. T rex to fast to be attacked? your saying a t rex is comparable to a mutalisk. and last i checked T-rex does not have wings.
O RLY?! There was me thinking it could fly.
Wolves have no way of damaging a T-rex, that's the bottom line.
A human comparison might be quite good here. We aren't particularly quick in straight line speed either. Now imagine something 80 times lighter than you, weighing about 1kg if you're an average adult male. 1kg. Just think how light that is to you. That is lighter than any dog breed I know of but imagine a dog. We're talking a really small dog. Now imagine they have no claws and a mouth that is so small it could bite your finger but still wouldn't do much damage. They would be pretty much incapable of doing you any harm. Yes you would struggle to hurt them back because they would just run around. It's pretty much a stalemate but if they come too close they will get kicked in the face and end up injured.
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote: Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.
The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf. You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.
Optimus Prime is intelligent and agile.
Ten men could beat a 60-foot-tall rock to bits given the time.
You think a T-rex isn't agile? Of course it is.
Can you clarify the question a bit more... are the wolves and the T-rex locked in an arena or something?
Because otherwise to kill a T-rex they would have to catch it first. If wolves did attack the T-rex would obviously just run away. Yes wolves are faster at a sprint but they can't maintain that for long periods of time. The T-rex would be able to move at a considerable pace for a long time.
Say they are in an arena it would still take a ridiculous amount of wolves to kill the T-rex. Even then they aren't going to be able to do much damage.
A wolf jaw would be utterly useless in an attack. The T-rex won't be stationary long enough for the wolf to get a grip and even if it could somehow open wide enough to bite something the jaw of a wolf is not powerful enough to do any damage. Wolves only have their jaws to attack with, without any claws or secondary means of attack they would be utterly useless against the T-rex. If the T-rex can't run away then the wolf can't either. 50 wolves in an arena with a T-rex would be a massacre. The rex would annihilate all of them. It would be just like Optimus prime vs 50 men as someone suggested.
Research has suggested the T-rex was a scavenger, and that it had no way of moving quickly, given its weight on its legs.
It therefore, as far as science can tell us, is not agile.
Definition: Agility is the ability to move and change direction and position of the body quickly and effectively while under control.
I've read that wiki page just like you have and scientists agree that the Rex is a hunter as well as a scavenger so it would need to be somewhat agile. Think about how the tail would help in redistributing weight and also as someone mentioned it is not especially tall relative to it's length. It's center of gravity would not be high when attacking as it would stoop over.
On September 14 2009 08:13 StorrZerg wrote: You are wrong good sir. T rex to fast to be attacked? your saying a t rex is comparable to a mutalisk. and last i checked T-rex does not have wings.
O RLY?! There was me thinking it could fly.
Wolves have no way of damaging a T-rex, that's the bottom line.
A human comparison might be quite good here. We aren't particularly quick in straight line speed either. Now imagine something 80 times lighter than you, weighing about 1kg if you're an average adult male. 1kg. Just think how light that is to you. That is lighter than any dog breed I know of but imagine a dog. We're talking a really small dog. Now imagine they have no claws and a mouth that is so small it could bite your finger but still wouldn't do much damage. They would be pretty much incapable of doing you any harm. Yes you would struggle to hurt them back because they would just run around. It's pretty much a stalemate but if they come too close they will get kicked in the face and end up injured.
Well wolves are endurance hunters and if dinosaurs are still warm blooded then I imagine they would still be good over a long distance, especially being bipedal and having such a huge stride.
However, if we assume an 'arena' style scenario where wolves keep coming until the T-Rex goes down (not considering exhaustion) then it's something to think about. It is hard to prove that the wolves could even pierce the T-Rex's skin and scales, as even though their jaws can readily crush bown (to get to the sweet, sweet marrow within) the extent to which it would have to open its jawd to such a huge girth in (et tu Pholon?) probably would mean their jaw strength is useless.
Also it's easy to give the wolves too much credit with regards to intellect, and we can't assume they'd go for the toes and cripple it or gang up and use their own dead weight to bring it down or impede it (plus their insticts might be a little sketchy when it comes to a T-Rex...).
The wolves would have agility on their side, so it might be hard for the T-Rex to kill a whole bunch, and I'd say its legs and tail would be the more effective weapons than its jaws, especially as the wolves are in a pack and harder to target individually. T-Rex because of the body shape and weight distribution would have pretty exposed flanks (poor agility, but I imagine a good linear speed for 'charging' or something with the heavy skull - which would probably not catch a wolf).
I've thought a bit about it before and while I think the hip structure like birds would give them pretty good direction change (e.g. emu or ostrich), the large, heavy skull and even larger, heavier tail - which those birds have neither of - just the interia from those weights (very eccentric to to centre of gravity remember) would mean it wouldn't change direction too fast.
I would say the decider would unfortunately be fatigue as I doubt nearly any number of wolves could take down a T-Rex without it being handicapped somehow by exhaustion and the T-Rex would not be able to kill enough wolves fast enough.
Charliemurphy velociraptors are like 6 feet *long*, including tail, not tall. They are like 2-3 feet tall tops, off the top of my head. Utahraptor was a huge bastard though and that could definitely take a T-Rex down even on its own, I imagine.
Just remember that wolf hunts even with large packs are unsuccessful like 90% of the time and that is predominantly against the sick, old or disadvantaged stags or w/e they are called such as male ones with large, heavy horns - not the pinnacle of speed or agility and they still fail 90% of the time.
Anyone who is low balling answers clearly haven't thought it through or is going with the whole bacteria bit which is clearly against the spirit of said discussion
A pack of wolves don't even attack adult bears yet people are insisting that a few could take on a 20ft T-Rex.
There's the obvious - can a wolf's jaw even inflict damage?
Besides, anything that gets close to the T-Rex will get kicked and stomped, and smacked by its tail.
Sure, the wolves *may* get out of the way of a few attacks but me thinks people have been watching one too many kung-fu movies for their own good.
The whole wolves are intelligent thing is also being taken a little too far.
The correct answer = # of wolves it takes to tire out a T-Rex.
On September 14 2009 17:03 RisingTide wrote: Ok, on some TV show on Nat Geo or Discovery, I heard that while T-Rex's can sprint very fast, they have very little maneuverability side to side, and considering how agile and intelligent wolves are in comparison, it would actually be really hard for a T-Rex to score a blow on a wolf. Also, a wolf's teeth would be able to penetrate a T-Rex hide. Perhaps not a lot, but enough for blood to start coming out. I think maybe as few as 5 wolves would be able to do it.
All right people, I tested it in Scribblenauts and the first time I tried it took 10 wolves to take down a T-Rex. Exactly 10!
However, the second time I tried it took just 2 wolves to bring it down because they got a perfect surround on the T-Rex. I guess Scribblenauts is like Starcraft where positioning can often mean more than numbers.
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote: Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.
The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf. You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.
Optimus Prime is intelligent and agile.
Ten men could beat a 60-foot-tall rock to bits given the time.
You think a T-rex isn't agile? Of course it is.
Can you clarify the question a bit more... are the wolves and the T-rex locked in an arena or something?
Because otherwise to kill a T-rex they would have to catch it first. If wolves did attack the T-rex would obviously just run away. Yes wolves are faster at a sprint but they can't maintain that for long periods of time. The T-rex would be able to move at a considerable pace for a long time.
Say they are in an arena it would still take a ridiculous amount of wolves to kill the T-rex. Even then they aren't going to be able to do much damage.
A wolf jaw would be utterly useless in an attack. The T-rex won't be stationary long enough for the wolf to get a grip and even if it could somehow open wide enough to bite something the jaw of a wolf is not powerful enough to do any damage. Wolves only have their jaws to attack with, without any claws or secondary means of attack they would be utterly useless against the T-rex. If the T-rex can't run away then the wolf can't either. 50 wolves in an arena with a T-rex would be a massacre. The rex would annihilate all of them. It would be just like Optimus prime vs 50 men as someone suggested.
Research has suggested the T-rex was a scavenger, and that it had no way of moving quickly, given its weight on its legs.
It therefore, as far as science can tell us, is not agile.
Definition: Agility is the ability to move and change direction and position of the body quickly and effectively while under control.
I've read that wiki page just like you have and scientists agree that the Rex is a hunter as well as a scavenger so it would need to be somewhat agile. Think about how the tail would help in redistributing weight and also as someone mentioned it is not especially tall relative to it's length. It's center of gravity would not be high when attacking as it would stoop over.
On September 14 2009 08:13 StorrZerg wrote: You are wrong good sir. T rex to fast to be attacked? your saying a t rex is comparable to a mutalisk. and last i checked T-rex does not have wings.
O RLY?! There was me thinking it could fly.
Wolves have no way of damaging a T-rex, that's the bottom line.
A human comparison might be quite good here. We aren't particularly quick in straight line speed either. Now imagine something 80 times lighter than you, weighing about 1kg if you're an average adult male. 1kg. Just think how light that is to you. That is lighter than any dog breed I know of but imagine a dog. We're talking a really small dog. Now imagine they have no claws and a mouth that is so small it could bite your finger but still wouldn't do much damage. They would be pretty much incapable of doing you any harm. Yes you would struggle to hurt them back because they would just run around. It's pretty much a stalemate but if they come too close they will get kicked in the face and end up injured.
Good points.
I suggest you check out Neil Alexander's article in Scientific American a while back.
Depends on how good there micro is. I would say the T-Rex would fear the shear numbers of attackers over their actual size. Even though they are small I think with a group of 30 should be enough to take down the T-Rex.
I think it would play out like this. Wolves surround the Rex, They make small attacks and try to stay away as the Rex loses energy and blood. Eventually the Rex will collapse from exhaustion. BUFFET OPEN!
Doesn't matter how many wolves you have. They lack the tools to inflict a mortal wound to a 7 ton animal, much less a 7 ton predator. That's the reason saber-toothed cats had long fangs, and mammoths weighted only 4-5 tons.
Any wolf that got withing striking distance would receive a most likely fatal blow while having a very small chance to injure the Tyrannosaurus. I suppose if you had a gazillion wolves you could wear it out but you'd also get the same effect with a gazillion bunnies as well.
It wouldnt take very many wolves to kill it because every time the t-rex would lunge downwards and grab a wolf in its jaws, the other wolves would have an easy opportunity to go for its neck, and assuming the neck is softer and easier to bite than the hardened lower leg area, they would cause significant damage after sacrificing only a few of their number. The only way the t-rex would kill wolves until it succumbed to exhaustion would be if the dinosaur used his legs to kick/stomp and did not allow the wolves access to more vulnerable parts of its body, but it was probably too stupid to use such methods in combat since it would be used to charging and killing the target in a couple of gigantic crushing bites, plus with all that weight distributed around its frame the t-rex would have an awkward time trying to kick something as small as a wolf.
On September 15 2009 09:32 Rambling. wrote: How many rats do you think it would take to kill a human? I think that's a pretty close comparison.
It really isn't.
And not only that, but the elegant beauty of this question is that there is no possible comparison. How many wolves would it take to kill a T-Rex? Simple as that.
On September 14 2009 16:25 Rekrul wrote: totally agreed with HB
whoever said 50 = retarded
trex can just lash around stomping the fuck out of shit
agree to totally.
A single tail swipe could destroy like 8 wolves at a time. It could head but the shit out of them and kill them. Not to mention.....if they jump on its back? GL it falls over and crushes them.
T-rex is likely slower than wolves and more stupid. Wolves are not able to beat the T-rex since they don't have the tools. T-rex can't hit wolves Wolves can't hurt T-rex.
They team up against sheep and sauropods and take over the world.
I've been doing some research on this, and from what I can figure out is that it just doesn't look good for the wolves. I started off in the camp of 50 wolves could do the trick, but now after many google searches I'm leaning more towards >400 wolves.
First off Trexs' brains are absolutely tiny comparison to their bodies, they're still larger than a human's, and from what I've been reading the old idea of proportion of brain to body as indicator of intelligence might not be a good indicator. So I think you might have to throw out the idea that a Trex was stupid and possibly give them the advantage in the brains depo.They used there tails to balance and turn fast so they're not as slow as we'd expect and on top of that with eyes on either side of their head they actually have the same peripheral vision as a hawk. Now the most damning evidence for wolves is of course the fact that Trex's mate with other Trex's! If you can survive being mounted by a 7tons of love a wolf bite isn't going to phase you.
considering that Trex is cold blooded, and doesn't do well at night- or in any cool weather for that matter, and the wolves have fur........ if it was night and or it was winter: wolves > rex. But if it was nice and warm or day time rex > wolves. unless the wolves waited until night, and until rex had a lower metabolism........maybe?
On September 14 2009 02:38 MantaRay wrote: Forgive me if this sounds too stupid of a question but I've recently gotten into a serious argument with my friend over my favorite animal...
I've always liked wolves. No question about it, they are my favorite animal. But my friend, who's a huge dinosaur lover, keeps saying that any decent dino could kill an infinite number of wolves. I then said without thinking first that I thought 50 wolves would easily be able to take down a Tyrannosaurus rex. He promptly laughed at my claim and dismissed it as balony. Being the wolf enthusiast I am, I promptly started looking on the internet to proove him wrong. Since I have no scientific background, I didn't have much luck. Although I found reports of starving wolves killing brown bears in the winter for food in Siberia, even I have to admit that taking down a brown bear is one thing and taking down a T-rex is quite another. So could anyone with some scientific knowledge settle our debate as to how many wolves it would take to kill a T-rex?
How many zerglings does it take to beat an ultralisk I think would answer the question.
On September 14 2009 03:01 ghermination wrote: Lions team up to take down hippopotamuses, which, although they individually could take out two or three lions, are incapable of fighting off 5 or 10. A few lions in front distract them, while another two or three jump on the hippopotamus back and bite/claw its skin. They can easily disable it within a few minutes this way, as the hippopotamus is incapable of reaching its back. I imagine it would be the same way with the T-Rex, considering its pretty obvious that physically a T-Rex wouldn't be able to reach its own back.
this logic is pretty flawed seeing as a Rex is like twice the size of the biggest hippo and wolves are nowhere near the size or power of lionesses...
also rex being bipedal kinda defeats the whole "jumping on the back" idea; it would be too tall and it's not exactly gonna let the wolves just jump on it even if they could spring that high.
Lions versus hippos isn't a very good comparative based on the size of the animals alone. a better one would be like wolves versus an elephant, an animal of comparative size to a rex.
On September 14 2009 23:22 Hawk wrote: Ever feel Alligator skin? Wolves would have a hard time on that. Imagine 20-30ft tall worth of said skin, and a munch bigger head.
only way trex loses is if he tires himself out
no proof what dinosaur skin looks like though, they could be lizardy or furry who knows.
On September 14 2009 23:22 Hawk wrote: Ever feel Alligator skin? Wolves would have a hard time on that. Imagine 20-30ft tall worth of said skin, and a munch bigger head.
only way trex loses is if he tires himself out
no proof what dinosaur skin looks like though, they could be lizardy or furry who knows.
Completely wrong. There is plenty of proof that they had tough, reptile like skin.
On September 14 2009 23:22 Hawk wrote: Ever feel Alligator skin? Wolves would have a hard time on that. Imagine 20-30ft tall worth of said skin, and a munch bigger head.
only way trex loses is if he tires himself out
no proof what dinosaur skin looks like though, they could be lizardy or furry who knows.
Completely wrong. There is plenty of proof that they had tough, reptile like skin.
yea that is the generally accepted theory, but some of them could have had feathers or whatever. We obviously can't be 100% sure of it though.
Just saying because there is no way you can assume that a wolf couldn't scratch/bite into it. (I do believe the theory btw)
On September 14 2009 23:22 Hawk wrote: Ever feel Alligator skin? Wolves would have a hard time on that. Imagine 20-30ft tall worth of said skin, and a munch bigger head.
only way trex loses is if he tires himself out
no proof what dinosaur skin looks like though, they could be lizardy or furry who knows.
Completely wrong. There is plenty of proof that they had tough, reptile like skin.
yea that is the generally accepted theory, but some of them could have had feathers or whatever. We obviously can't be 100% sure of it though.
Just saying because there is no way you can assume that a wolf couldn't scratch/bite into it. (I do believe the theory btw)
I believe that they have actual fossil imprints of T-Rex skin, showing that it was indeed tough and scaly.
Anyways, I'm going to have to go with the "T-Rex is immune to wolves" camp and say that a T-Rex would be able to kill as many wolves as possible before succumbing to exhaustion.
Also, the argument that 'modern' bacteria would wreak havoc upon the T-Rex's immune system would work both ways, since the wolves' immune systems would be mal-adapted to deal with Cretaceous germs.
Wolves don't really scratch or claw. They're not cats, their only weapon is their jaw.
From what I've read/heard, wolves mostly hunt the weak, wounded, old, or young. They are far less successful against a healthy specimen.
The whole intelligent card is being played too much. If you're going to play the intelligence card, you should also count their mindset/instinct. Their strategy is to kill with minimal injury because an injured wolf is useless to a pack.
Wolves basically have 2 hunting techniques: If the animal flees (ex. Elk) - chase it to exhaustion. If the animal confronts (ex. Bison) - wait and harass it out.
Now how the fuck is a wolf suppose to harass a T-Rex without getting itself hurt? I don't think people realize the dangers a wolf would have to put itself in to bite a T-Rex.
I had exhaustion before but I'm going to change it to no way a pack would ever try to attack a T-Rex. Even starved, I would put money that they would turn to cannibalism (they are known to eat their injured) before even thinking about attacking a T-Rex.
The only way wolves would attack a T-Rex is if it's in a confined space with one. And if its T-Rex v Wolves in a confined area, T-Rex bulldozes unless you use an imaginary pack with 60+ members.
Also, I think that SC2 is helping to solve this problem. Hear me out... I think that this is similar to Ultras and Marines. You see, it's not linear. Like three ultras will lose to 100 marines, but 6 ultras beat 200 marines. So, using the transitive properties of nature, I think it's safe to assume that while 50 wolves can beat one T-Rex, 150-wolves will get slaughtered by 3 T-Rexes. Dramitization of this below.
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Also, I think that SC2 is helping to solve this problem. Hear me out... I think that this is similar to Ultras and Marines. You see, it's not linear. Like three ultras will lose to 100 marines, but 6 ultras beat 200 marines. So, using the transitive properties of nature, I think it's safe to assume that while 50 wolves can beat one T-Rex, 150-wolves will get slaughtered by 3 T-Rexes. Dramitization of this below.
Trex will be immune to wolves because wolves won't be able to bite through its skin.... there is no way even an infinite amount of wolves will be able to kill a Trex.
As you saw in 1st jurassic park, multiple velociraptors jump on the trex. Velociraptors are acknowledged as the most dangerous dinosaur, and a hunter in a pack much like wolves, but much bigger size (human height i guess), pretty much a big fking sword claw on their feet and stronger/sharper/tougher teeth with much stronger bite strength. They were able to jump realllllly high too and very agile. I don't think 5 velociraptors can take down a Trex, so there you have it. But i think 50 wolves can take on 5 velociraptors...
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