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HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
September 14 2009 08:34 GMT
#121
As far as I'm concerned it's fairly easy. The Wolves need to completely swarm the T-Rex to take it down, one wolf is no more than a nuisance. It's much like ants vs humans, one is not a problem but a swarm like those migrating tropical ones (or if you want to bring back painful memories, like those in Indiana Jones 4) can easily kill a human. So really I approximate that to properly swarm a T-Rex you need 3x-10x its weight in wolves. So: 14 000 * 3+ / 100 = 420+
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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
September 14 2009 08:50 GMT
#122
Don't think 50 wolves will be able to work together.
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meegrean
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Thailand7699 Posts
September 14 2009 08:55 GMT
#123
The wolves probably can't fight the T-rex head-on, so would probably need to do a lot of harassment. Like when the T-rex is sleeping, they can dash in, take a few bites and run away and then repeat until the T-rex is dead. All I can say is don't underestimate how strong a pack of wolves can be.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
September 14 2009 09:06 GMT
#124
lol best thread I've read for the past few months ... better than SPL Grand Final tourney for sure ...
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Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 14 2009 09:12 GMT
#125
On September 14 2009 05:50 forgotten0ne wrote:
Come on guys, have we not learned anything from Starcraft. It takes 9 zerglings to kill an ultralisk, so it must take 9 wolves to kill a T-rex.

...unless of course the wolves have an attack speed upgrade...


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Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
September 14 2009 09:52 GMT
#126
Best thread i've ever seen. Gives me a chance to use my scientific knowledge.

10 wolves at most. The T-Rex wouldn't be able to attack more than one or two at a time. Wolves would go in and hamstring the fucker. Once thats done, the dinosaur is fucked.

Think about it, as cool as T-Rex are, they never attacked large groups of other dinosaurs. They were a scavenger, preying on the weak and the young. Add this to the fact that wolves are also very cool, and you've got yourself a certified scientified answer.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 14 2009 10:02 GMT
#127
somewhat related:
Raptors are like 6 feet tall



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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 12:05:54
September 14 2009 11:57 GMT
#128
On September 14 2009 19:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
somewhat related:
Raptors are like 6 feet tall

Velociraptors are actually very small.

God History Channel makes me sick. All sensationalist bullshit.
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
September 14 2009 12:26 GMT
#129
On September 14 2009 07:38 El.Divino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 06:23 Klive5ive wrote:
On September 14 2009 05:46 El.Divino wrote:
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote:
Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.

The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf.
You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.


Optimus Prime is intelligent and agile.

Ten men could beat a 60-foot-tall rock to bits given the time.

You think a T-rex isn't agile? Of course it is.

Can you clarify the question a bit more... are the wolves and the T-rex locked in an arena or something?

Because otherwise to kill a T-rex they would have to catch it first. If wolves did attack the T-rex would obviously just run away. Yes wolves are faster at a sprint but they can't maintain that for long periods of time. The T-rex would be able to move at a considerable pace for a long time.

Say they are in an arena it would still take a ridiculous amount of wolves to kill the T-rex. Even then they aren't going to be able to do much damage.

A wolf jaw would be utterly useless in an attack. The T-rex won't be stationary long enough for the wolf to get a grip and even if it could somehow open wide enough to bite something the jaw of a wolf is not powerful enough to do any damage.
Wolves only have their jaws to attack with, without any claws or secondary means of attack they would be utterly useless against the T-rex.
If the T-rex can't run away then the wolf can't either.
50 wolves in an arena with a T-rex would be a massacre. The rex would annihilate all of them. It would be just like Optimus prime vs 50 men as someone suggested.


Research has suggested the T-rex was a scavenger, and that it had no way of moving quickly, given its weight on its legs.

It therefore, as far as science can tell us, is not agile.

Definition: Agility is the ability to move and change direction and position of the body quickly and effectively while under control.

I've read that wiki page just like you have and scientists agree that the Rex is a hunter as well as a scavenger so it would need to be somewhat agile.
Think about how the tail would help in redistributing weight and also as someone mentioned it is not especially tall relative to it's length. It's center of gravity would not be high when attacking as it would stoop over.

On September 14 2009 08:13 StorrZerg wrote:
You are wrong good sir. T rex to fast to be attacked? your saying a t rex is comparable to a mutalisk. and last i checked T-rex does not have wings.

O RLY?! There was me thinking it could fly.

Wolves have no way of damaging a T-rex, that's the bottom line.

A human comparison might be quite good here. We aren't particularly quick in straight line speed either. Now imagine something 80 times lighter than you, weighing about 1kg if you're an average adult male.
1kg. Just think how light that is to you.
That is lighter than any dog breed I know of but imagine a dog. We're talking a really small dog. Now imagine they have no claws and a mouth that is so small it could bite your finger but still wouldn't do much damage.
They would be pretty much incapable of doing you any harm.
Yes you would struggle to hurt them back because they would just run around. It's pretty much a stalemate but if they come too close they will get kicked in the face and end up injured.
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Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
September 14 2009 13:30 GMT
#130
On September 14 2009 21:26 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 07:38 El.Divino wrote:
On September 14 2009 06:23 Klive5ive wrote:
On September 14 2009 05:46 El.Divino wrote:
On September 14 2009 05:36 randombum wrote:
Wolves would stand no chance. According to Wikipedia a T-rex would be like 40 feet tall and 14,000 pounds. The largest wolf is about 4 feet tall weighing 175 pounds.

The Trex is 10 times taller and 80 times heavier than the wolf.
You guys watch transformers? Cause imagine yourself fighting optimums prime. How many of you would it take to kill something that size even if it did have short arms.


Optimus Prime is intelligent and agile.

Ten men could beat a 60-foot-tall rock to bits given the time.

You think a T-rex isn't agile? Of course it is.

Can you clarify the question a bit more... are the wolves and the T-rex locked in an arena or something?

Because otherwise to kill a T-rex they would have to catch it first. If wolves did attack the T-rex would obviously just run away. Yes wolves are faster at a sprint but they can't maintain that for long periods of time. The T-rex would be able to move at a considerable pace for a long time.

Say they are in an arena it would still take a ridiculous amount of wolves to kill the T-rex. Even then they aren't going to be able to do much damage.

A wolf jaw would be utterly useless in an attack. The T-rex won't be stationary long enough for the wolf to get a grip and even if it could somehow open wide enough to bite something the jaw of a wolf is not powerful enough to do any damage.
Wolves only have their jaws to attack with, without any claws or secondary means of attack they would be utterly useless against the T-rex.
If the T-rex can't run away then the wolf can't either.
50 wolves in an arena with a T-rex would be a massacre. The rex would annihilate all of them. It would be just like Optimus prime vs 50 men as someone suggested.


Research has suggested the T-rex was a scavenger, and that it had no way of moving quickly, given its weight on its legs.

It therefore, as far as science can tell us, is not agile.

Definition: Agility is the ability to move and change direction and position of the body quickly and effectively while under control.

I've read that wiki page just like you have and scientists agree that the Rex is a hunter as well as a scavenger so it would need to be somewhat agile.
Think about how the tail would help in redistributing weight and also as someone mentioned it is not especially tall relative to it's length. It's center of gravity would not be high when attacking as it would stoop over.

Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 08:13 StorrZerg wrote:
You are wrong good sir. T rex to fast to be attacked? your saying a t rex is comparable to a mutalisk. and last i checked T-rex does not have wings.

O RLY?! There was me thinking it could fly.

Wolves have no way of damaging a T-rex, that's the bottom line.

A human comparison might be quite good here. We aren't particularly quick in straight line speed either. Now imagine something 80 times lighter than you, weighing about 1kg if you're an average adult male.
1kg. Just think how light that is to you.
That is lighter than any dog breed I know of but imagine a dog. We're talking a really small dog. Now imagine they have no claws and a mouth that is so small it could bite your finger but still wouldn't do much damage.
They would be pretty much incapable of doing you any harm.
Yes you would struggle to hurt them back because they would just run around. It's pretty much a stalemate but if they come too close they will get kicked in the face and end up injured.



no no no no no no no.
all wrong.
no.
just no.

50 wolves > dino.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
September 14 2009 13:34 GMT
#131
Well wolves are endurance hunters and if dinosaurs are still warm blooded then I imagine they would still be good over a long distance, especially being bipedal and having such a huge stride.

However, if we assume an 'arena' style scenario where wolves keep coming until the T-Rex goes down (not considering exhaustion) then it's something to think about. It is hard to prove that the wolves could even pierce the T-Rex's skin and scales, as even though their jaws can readily crush bown (to get to the sweet, sweet marrow within) the extent to which it would have to open its jawd to such a huge girth in (et tu Pholon?) probably would mean their jaw strength is useless.

Also it's easy to give the wolves too much credit with regards to intellect, and we can't assume they'd go for the toes and cripple it or gang up and use their own dead weight to bring it down or impede it (plus their insticts might be a little sketchy when it comes to a T-Rex...).

The wolves would have agility on their side, so it might be hard for the T-Rex to kill a whole bunch, and I'd say its legs and tail would be the more effective weapons than its jaws, especially as the wolves are in a pack and harder to target individually. T-Rex because of the body shape and weight distribution would have pretty exposed flanks (poor agility, but I imagine a good linear speed for 'charging' or something with the heavy skull - which would probably not catch a wolf).

I've thought a bit about it before and while I think the hip structure like birds would give them pretty good direction change (e.g. emu or ostrich), the large, heavy skull and even larger, heavier tail - which those birds have neither of - just the interia from those weights (very eccentric to to centre of gravity remember) would mean it wouldn't change direction too fast.

I would say the decider would unfortunately be fatigue as I doubt nearly any number of wolves could take down a T-Rex without it being handicapped somehow by exhaustion and the T-Rex would not be able to kill enough wolves fast enough.

Charliemurphy velociraptors are like 6 feet *long*, including tail, not tall. They are like 2-3 feet tall tops, off the top of my head. Utahraptor was a huge bastard though and that could definitely take a T-Rex down even on its own, I imagine.

Just remember that wolf hunts even with large packs are unsuccessful like 90% of the time and that is predominantly against the sick, old or disadvantaged stags or w/e they are called such as male ones with large, heavy horns - not the pinnacle of speed or agility and they still fail 90% of the time.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
September 14 2009 13:36 GMT
#132
y op get banned?
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vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
September 14 2009 13:42 GMT
#133
OP was tdotkrayz

shoot on sight
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
September 14 2009 13:43 GMT
#134
whats the point of such threads anyway?
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Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 14:39:04
September 14 2009 14:02 GMT
#135
Don't hate; thread is full of win.

Anyone who is low balling answers clearly haven't thought it through or is going with the whole bacteria bit which is clearly against the spirit of said discussion

A pack of wolves don't even attack adult bears yet people are insisting that a few could take on a 20ft T-Rex.

There's the obvious - can a wolf's jaw even inflict damage?

Besides, anything that gets close to the T-Rex will get kicked and stomped, and smacked by its tail.

Sure, the wolves *may* get out of the way of a few attacks but me thinks people have been watching one too many kung-fu movies for their own good.

The whole wolves are intelligent thing is also being taken a little too far.

The correct answer = # of wolves it takes to tire out a T-Rex.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32117 Posts
September 14 2009 14:22 GMT
#136
Ever feel Alligator skin? Wolves would have a hard time on that. Imagine 20-30ft tall worth of said skin, and a munch bigger head.

only way trex loses is if he tires himself out
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32117 Posts
September 14 2009 14:23 GMT
#137
On September 14 2009 17:03 RisingTide wrote:
Ok, on some TV show on Nat Geo or Discovery, I heard that while T-Rex's can sprint very fast, they have very little maneuverability side to side, and considering how agile and intelligent wolves are in comparison, it would actually be really hard for a T-Rex to score a blow on a wolf. Also, a wolf's teeth would be able to penetrate a T-Rex hide. Perhaps not a lot, but enough for blood to start coming out. I think maybe as few as 5 wolves would be able to do it.


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Profile Joined September 2009
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 15:02:55
September 14 2009 15:01 GMT
#138
On September 14 2009 22:42 vGl-CoW wrote:
OP was tdotkrayz

shoot on sight




How many tdotkrayzs would it take to rape a t-rex?

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Denmark1020 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 15:25:14
September 14 2009 15:22 GMT
#139
As if your lame f-14 T-rex ever stood a chance against even a single wolf...

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Iceland2039 Posts
September 14 2009 15:45 GMT
#140
On September 15 2009 00:22 Kong John wrote:
As if your lame f-14 T-rex ever stood a chance against even a single wolf...

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Nice wolf there

The only way we can know for sure is if we ask the makers of http://www.wolfquest.org/ to implement a T-Rex and then go hunt it.
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