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On September 14 2009 02:38 MantaRay wrote:
Forgive me if this sounds too stupid of a question but I've recently gotten into a serious argument with my friend over my favorite animal...
I've always liked wolves. No question about it, they are my favorite animal. But my friend, who's a huge dinosaur lover, keeps saying that any decent dino could kill an infinite number of wolves. I then said without thinking first that I thought 50 wolves would easily be able to take down a Tyrannosaurus rex. He promptly laughed at my claim and dismissed it as balony. Being the wolf enthusiast I am, I promptly started looking on the internet to proove him wrong. Since I have no scientific background, I didn't have much luck. Although I found reports of starving wolves killing brown bears in the winter for food in Siberia, even I have to admit that taking down a brown bear is one thing and taking down a T-rex is quite another. So could anyone with some scientific knowledge settle our debate as to how many wolves it would take to kill a T-rex?
How many zerglings does it take to beat an ultralisk I think would answer the question.
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On September 14 2009 03:01 ghermination wrote:
Lions team up to take down hippopotamuses, which, although they individually could take out two or three lions, are incapable of fighting off 5 or 10. A few lions in front distract them, while another two or three jump on the hippopotamus back and bite/claw its skin. They can easily disable it within a few minutes this way, as the hippopotamus is incapable of reaching its back. I imagine it would be the same way with the T-Rex, considering its pretty obvious that physically a T-Rex wouldn't be able to reach its own back.
this logic is pretty flawed seeing as a Rex is like twice the size of the biggest hippo and wolves are nowhere near the size or power of lionesses...
also rex being bipedal kinda defeats the whole "jumping on the back" idea; it would be too tall and it's not exactly gonna let the wolves just jump on it even if they could spring that high.
Lions versus hippos isn't a very good comparative based on the size of the animals alone. a better one would be like wolves versus an elephant, an animal of comparative size to a rex.
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On September 14 2009 23:22 Hawk wrote:
Ever feel Alligator skin? Wolves would have a hard time on that. Imagine 20-30ft tall worth of said skin, and a munch bigger head.
only way trex loses is if he tires himself out
no proof what dinosaur skin looks like though, they could be lizardy or furry who knows.
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On September 16 2009 00:50 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2009 23:22 Hawk wrote:
Ever feel Alligator skin? Wolves would have a hard time on that. Imagine 20-30ft tall worth of said skin, and a munch bigger head.
only way trex loses is if he tires himself out no proof what dinosaur skin looks like though, they could be lizardy or furry who knows.
Completely wrong. There is plenty of proof that they had tough, reptile like skin.
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On September 16 2009 06:36 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2009 00:50 CharlieMurphy wrote:On September 14 2009 23:22 Hawk wrote:
Ever feel Alligator skin? Wolves would have a hard time on that. Imagine 20-30ft tall worth of said skin, and a munch bigger head.
only way trex loses is if he tires himself out no proof what dinosaur skin looks like though, they could be lizardy or furry who knows. Completely wrong. There is plenty of proof that they had tough, reptile like skin.
yea that is the generally accepted theory, but some of them could have had feathers or whatever. We obviously can't be 100% sure of it though.
Just saying because there is no way you can assume that a wolf couldn't scratch/bite into it. (I do believe the theory btw)
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On September 16 2009 06:54 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2009 06:36 keV. wrote:On September 16 2009 00:50 CharlieMurphy wrote:On September 14 2009 23:22 Hawk wrote:
Ever feel Alligator skin? Wolves would have a hard time on that. Imagine 20-30ft tall worth of said skin, and a munch bigger head.
only way trex loses is if he tires himself out no proof what dinosaur skin looks like though, they could be lizardy or furry who knows. Completely wrong. There is plenty of proof that they had tough, reptile like skin. yea that is the generally accepted theory, but some of them could have had feathers or whatever. We obviously can't be 100% sure of it though. Just saying because there is no way you can assume that a wolf couldn't scratch/bite into it. (I do believe the theory btw)
I believe that they have actual fossil imprints of T-Rex skin, showing that it was indeed tough and scaly.
Anyways, I'm going to have to go with the "T-Rex is immune to wolves" camp and say that a T-Rex would be able to kill as many wolves as possible before succumbing to exhaustion.
Also, the argument that 'modern' bacteria would wreak havoc upon the T-Rex's immune system would work both ways, since the wolves' immune systems would be mal-adapted to deal with Cretaceous germs.
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Wolves don't really scratch or claw.
They're not cats, their only weapon is their jaw.
From what I've read/heard, wolves mostly hunt the weak, wounded, old, or young. They are far less successful against a healthy specimen.
The whole intelligent card is being played too much.
If you're going to play the intelligence card, you should also count their mindset/instinct.
Their strategy is to kill with minimal injury because an injured wolf is useless to a pack.
Wolves basically have 2 hunting techniques:
If the animal flees (ex. Elk) - chase it to exhaustion.
If the animal confronts (ex. Bison) - wait and harass it out.
Now how the fuck is a wolf suppose to harass a T-Rex without getting itself hurt?
I don't think people realize the dangers a wolf would have to put itself in to bite a T-Rex.
I had exhaustion before but I'm going to change it to no way a pack would ever try to attack a T-Rex.
Even starved, I would put money that they would turn to cannibalism (they are known to eat their injured) before even thinking about attacking a T-Rex.
The only way wolves would attack a T-Rex is if it's in a confined space with one.
And if its T-Rex v Wolves in a confined area, T-Rex bulldozes unless you use an imaginary pack with 60+ members.
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wolves dont stand a chance
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On September 14 2009 04:01 arb wrote:Once again the true question is. Is it a  Superiorwolf?
laff
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haha that comic took me a sec, they shoulda put a bottle of lube there.
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This is possibly the best blog ever.
Also, I think that SC2 is helping to solve this problem. Hear me out... I think that this is similar to Ultras and Marines. You see, it's not linear. Like three ultras will lose to 100 marines, but 6 ultras beat 200 marines. So, using the transitive properties of nature, I think it's safe to assume that while 50 wolves can beat one T-Rex, 150-wolves will get slaughtered by 3 T-Rexes. Dramitization of this below.
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On May 05 2010 04:53 Old Sagat wrote:This is possibly the best blog ever. Also, I think that SC2 is helping to solve this problem. Hear me out... I think that this is similar to Ultras and Marines. You see, it's not linear. Like three ultras will lose to 100 marines, but 6 ultras beat 200 marines. So, using the transitive properties of nature, I think it's safe to assume that while 50 wolves can beat one T-Rex, 150-wolves will get slaughtered by 3 T-Rexes. Dramitization of this below. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odO6fNo9-P8
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
So I was stalking some of CoW's posts (holy what it's an L I feel so noob) and found this.
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Trex will be immune to wolves because wolves won't be able to bite through its skin.... there is no way even an infinite amount of wolves will be able to kill a Trex.
As you saw in 1st jurassic park, multiple velociraptors jump on the trex. Velociraptors are acknowledged as the most dangerous dinosaur, and a hunter in a pack much like wolves, but much bigger size (human height i guess), pretty much a big fking sword claw on their feet and stronger/sharper/tougher teeth with much stronger bite strength. They were able to jump realllllly high too and very agile. I don't think 5 velociraptors can take down a Trex, so there you have it. But i think 50 wolves can take on 5 velociraptors...
However, I think 50 direwolves can take a trex 
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no more than 15
Pack animals are super strong... in ... errr.. packs
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