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Obama's at his socialist ways again.

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Jordan812 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 04:14:08
September 09 2009 04:00 GMT
#1
I had a quick read of this speech and feel it's not only good for just high-school students, but any students in general who need some encouragement. Why the hell would anyone believe this speech would lead to anything less than something great.

I can imagine some important character in the future remarking about hearing this speech and really setting off to go towards their goals.

I know this is quite a long speech, but please consider reading it.


President Obama's speech in Arlington, Virginia

The President: Hello everyone – how’s everybody doing today? I’m here with students at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. And we’ve got students tuning in from all across America, kindergarten through twelfth grade. I’m glad you all could join us today.

I know that for many of you, today is the first day of school. And for those of you in kindergarten, or starting middle or high school, it’s your first day in a new school, so it’s understandable if you’re a little nervous. I imagine there are some seniors out there who are feeling pretty good right now, with just one more year to go. And no matter what grade you’re in, some of you are probably wishing it were still summer, and you could’ve stayed in bed just a little longer this morning.
I know that feeling. When I was young, my family lived in Indonesia for a few years, and my mother didn’t have the money to send me where all the American kids went to school. So she decided to teach me extra lessons herself, Monday through Friday – at 4:30 in the morning.
Now I wasn’t too happy about getting up that early. A lot of times, I’d fall asleep right there at the kitchen table. But whenever I’d complain, my mother would just give me one of those looks and say, \"This is no picnic for me either, buster.\"

So I know some of you are still adjusting to being back at school. But I’m here today because I have something important to discuss with you. I’m here because I want to talk with you about your education and what’s expected of all of you in this new school year.

Now I’ve given a lot of speeches about education. And I’ve talked a lot about responsibility.
I’ve talked about your teachers’ responsibility for inspiring you, and pushing you to learn.
I’ve talked about your parents’ responsibility for making sure you stay on track, and get your homework done, and don’t spend every waking hour in front of the TV or with that Xbox.
I’ve talked a lot about your government’s responsibility for setting high standards, supporting teachers and principals, and turning around schools that aren’t working where students aren’t getting the opportunities they deserve.

But at the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents, and the best schools in the world – and none of it will matter unless all of you fulfill your responsibilities. Unless you show up to those schools; pay attention to those teachers; listen to your parents, grandparents and other adults; and put in the hard work it takes to succeed.
And that’s what I want to focus on today: the responsibility each of you has for your education. I want to start with the responsibility you have to yourself.

Every single one of you has something you’re good at. Every single one of you has something to offer. And you have a responsibility to yourself to discover what that is. That’s the opportunity an education can provide.

Maybe you could be a good writer – maybe even good enough to write a book or articles in a newspaper – but you might not know it until you write a paper for your English class. Maybe you could be an innovator or an inventor – maybe even good enough to come up with the next iPhone or a new medicine or vaccine – but you might not know it until you do a project for your science class. Maybe you could be a mayor or a Senator or a Supreme Court Justice, but you might not know that until you join student government or the debate team.

And no matter what you want to do with your life – I guarantee that you’ll need an education to do it. You want to be a doctor, or a teacher, or a police officer? You want to be a nurse or an architect, a lawyer or a member of our military? You’re going to need a good education for every single one of those careers. You can’t drop out of school and just drop into a good job. You’ve got to work for it and train for it and learn for it.

And this isn’t just important for your own life and your own future. What you make of your education will decide nothing less than the future of this country. What you’re learning in school today will determine whether we as a nation can meet our greatest challenges in the future.
You’ll need the knowledge and problem-solving skills you learn in science and math to cure diseases like cancer and AIDS, and to develop new energy technologies and protect our environment. You’ll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free. You’ll need the creativity and ingenuity you develop in all your classes to build new companies that will create new jobs and boost our economy.

We need every single one of you to develop your talents, skills and intellect so you can help solve our most difficult problems. If you don’t do that – if you quit on school – you’re not just quitting on yourself, you’re quitting on your country.

Now I know it’s not always easy to do well in school. I know a lot of you have challenges in your lives right now that can make it hard to focus on your schoolwork.

I get it. I know what that’s like. My father left my family when I was two years old, and I was raised by a single mother who struggled at times to pay the bills and wasn’t always able to give us things the other kids had. There were times when I missed having a father in my life. There were times when I was lonely and felt like I didn’t fit in.

So I wasn’t always as focused as I should have been. I did some things I’m not proud of, and got in more trouble than I should have. And my life could have easily taken a turn for the worse.
But I was fortunate. I got a lot of second chances and had the opportunity to go to college, and law school, and follow my dreams. My wife, our First Lady Michelle Obama, has a similar story. Neither of her parents had gone to college, and they didn’t have much. But they worked hard, and she worked hard, so that she could go to the best schools in this country.

Some of you might not have those advantages. Maybe you don’t have adults in your life who give you the support that you need. Maybe someone in your family has lost their job, and there’s not enough money to go around. Maybe you live in a neighborhood where you don’t feel safe, or have friends who are pressuring you to do things you know aren’t right.

But at the end of the day, the circumstances of your life – what you look like, where you come from, how much money you have, what you’ve got going on at home – that’s no excuse for neglecting your homework or having a bad attitude. That’s no excuse for talking back to your teacher, or cutting class, or dropping out of school. That’s no excuse for not trying.
Where you are right now doesn’t have to determine where you’ll end up. No one’s written your destiny for you. Here in America, you write your own destiny. You make your own future.
That’s what young people like you are doing every day, all across America.

Young people like Jazmin Perez, from Roma, Texas. Jazmin didn’t speak English when she first started school. Hardly anyone in her hometown went to college, and neither of her parents had gone either. But she worked hard, earned good grades, got a scholarship to Brown University, and is now in graduate school, studying public health, on her way to being Dr. Jazmin Perez.
I’m thinking about Andoni Schultz, from Los Altos, California, who’s fought brain cancer since he was three. He’s endured all sorts of treatments and surgeries, one of which affected his memory, so it took him much longer – hundreds of extra hours – to do his schoolwork. But he never fell behind, and he’s headed to college this fall.

And then there’s Shantell Steve, from my hometown of Chicago, Illinois. Even when bouncing from foster home to foster home in the toughest neighborhoods, she managed to get a job at a local health center; start a program to keep young people out of gangs; and she’s on track to graduate high school with honors and go on to college.

Jazmin, Andoni and Shantell aren’t any different from any of you. They faced challenges in their lives just like you do. But they refused to give up. They chose to take responsibility for their education and set goals for themselves. And I expect all of you to do the same.

That’s why today, I’m calling on each of you to set your own goals for your education – and to do everything you can to meet them. Your goal can be something as simple as doing all your homework, paying attention in class, or spending time each day reading a book. Maybe you’ll decide to get involved in an extracurricular activity, or volunteer in your community. Maybe you’ll decide to stand up for kids who are being teased or bullied because of who they are or how they look, because you believe, like I do, that all kids deserve a safe environment to study and learn. Maybe you’ll decide to take better care of yourself so you can be more ready to learn. And along those lines, I hope you’ll all wash your hands a lot, and stay home from school when you don’t feel well, so we can keep people from getting the flu this fall and winter.

Whatever you resolve to do, I want you to commit to it. I want you to really work at it.
I know that sometimes, you get the sense from TV that you can be rich and successful without any hard work -- that your ticket to success is through rapping or basketball or being a reality TV star, when chances are, you’re not going to be any of those things.

But the truth is, being successful is hard. You won’t love every subject you study. You won’t click with every teacher. Not every homework assignment will seem completely relevant to your life right this minute. And you won’t necessarily succeed at everything the first time you try.
That’s OK. Some of the most successful people in the world are the ones who’ve had the most failures. JK Rowling’s first Harry Potter book was rejected twelve times before it was finally published. Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team, and he lost hundreds of games and missed thousands of shots during his career. But he once said, \"I have failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.\"

These people succeeded because they understand that you can’t let your failures define you – you have to let them teach you. You have to let them show you what to do differently next time. If you get in trouble, that doesn’t mean you’re a troublemaker, it means you need to try harder to behave. If you get a bad grade, that doesn’t mean you’re stupid, it just means you need to spend more time studying.

No one’s born being good at things, you become good at things through hard work. You’re not a varsity athlete the first time you play a new sport. You don’t hit every note the first time you sing a song. You’ve got to practice. It’s the same with your schoolwork. You might have to do a math problem a few times before you get it right, or read something a few times before you understand it, or do a few drafts of a paper before it’s good enough to hand in.

Don’t be afraid to ask questions. Don’t be afraid to ask for help when you need it. I do that every day. Asking for help isn’t a sign of weakness, it’s a sign of strength. It shows you have the courage to admit when you don’t know something, and to learn something new. So find an adult you trust – a parent, grandparent or teacher; a coach or counselor – and ask them to help you stay on track to meet your goals.

And even when you’re struggling, even when you’re discouraged, and you feel like other people have given up on you – don’t ever give up on yourself. Because when you give up on yourself, you give up on your country.

The story of America isn’t about people who quit when things got tough. It’s about people who kept going, who tried harder, who loved their country too much to do anything less than their best.
It’s the story of students who sat where you sit 250 years ago, and went on to wage a revolution and found this nation. Students who sat where you sit 75 years ago who overcame a Depression and won a world war; who fought for civil rights and put a man on the moon. Students who sat where you sit 20 years ago who founded Google, Twitter and Facebook and changed the way we communicate with each other.

So today, I want to ask you, what’s your contribution going to be? What problems are you going to solve? What discoveries will you make? What will a president who comes here in twenty or fifty or one hundred years say about what all of you did for this country?

Your families, your teachers, and I are doing everything we can to make sure you have the education you need to answer these questions. I’m working hard to fix up your classrooms and get you the books, equipment and computers you need to learn. But you’ve got to do your part too. So I expect you to get serious this year. I expect you to put your best effort into everything you do. I expect great things from each of you. So don’t let us down – don’t let your family or your country or yourself down. Make us all proud. I know you can do it.

Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.


Source: whitehouse.gov

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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
September 09 2009 04:03 GMT
#2
Yeah I watched this in school today. It's actually a pretty good speech, but I doubt it will make too much of a difference. Most of the people it is trying to affect will probably brush it off as another one of those lame motivational lines.
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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
September 09 2009 04:10 GMT
#3
I was listening to NPR on my way back down to college for the year and heard that parents were pulling their kids out of school because they didn't want their kids listening to a speech from the president. That made me so angry. I mean, he is the president. have some respect.

Thanks for posting this. Even though I'm not in grade school anymore its nice to know what's going on.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 09 2009 04:12 GMT
#4
OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO MAKE AMERICA SOCIALIST
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it already is. Socialism works pretty well. Socialism != Communism


Its nice to think that some of his speeches we listen to live will someday be in history books.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 09 2009 04:15 GMT
#5
while i agree that the nonsense over his speech is pretty fucking retarded/ridiculous/nah mostly retarded, i also think that he's not really inspiring anybody to do these sorts of things.

I personally prefer the "GTO" approach: get way in over your head and just fuck with people until they get it into their heads that their bullshit is not appreciated. Like, if Obama had like driven some punk ass kids off a bridge on his motorcycle, to teach them not to be harassing people, then I would give him my full support, even if he destroys America somehow.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 09 2009 04:17 GMT
#6
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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
September 09 2009 04:18 GMT
#7


Damn evil socialist Obama trying to brainwash american kids with his evil ideology!
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 09 2009 04:18 GMT
#8
On September 09 2009 13:12 fusionsdf wrote:
OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO MAKE AMERICA SOCIALIST
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it already is. Socialism works pretty well. Socialism != Communism


Its nice to think that some of his speeches we listen to live will someday be in history books.

lol, as Marx wrote, there is no such thing as "communism" we just know that it is the thing that comes after Socialism. Other thinkers defined communism as being everybody owns everything, but I'm pretty sure Marx criticized them for being wrong. He said that since there hasn't been a communism, nobody knows wtf it looks like. And they still don't, because there has never been any real movement past the idea of Socialism. Germany was militaristically-socialist, the Soviet Union was just totalitarian, Cuba follows pretty much the same lines as the Soviet Union, and China was mostly a cult of personality followed by a Chiang Kai-shek esque pseudo socialist into free market capitalist area.
I actually don't criticize communism, because I dunno what it is. I, however, do criticize socialism, for many reasons that I'm not going to discuss in this otherwise civil thread. Mostly because I want to keep this thread civil.
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jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
September 09 2009 04:19 GMT
#9
most people who aren't trying hard to earn an education just don't care about getting one. then when they grow up and become poor they'll look at the people who worked hard in school and wonder why they get to have a lot of money. it's too bad too. that's one reason why imo we'll never see a utopia without wars or poverty, because you can force kids to go to school till they're 16 but you can't force them to care about it.

anyways, not an obama fan but at least he tried. i dont see any partisan crap in here, which is refreshing once in a while (from obama and presidents in general, governments in general really)
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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 04:24:57
September 09 2009 04:22 GMT
#10
It's not the President's job to be addressing students. It's not even part of the Governments powers to even have public schools, but alas....

Personally principle aside on the roles of Government, especially the Federal Government vice Executive Branch, the speech was pretty lame. It's nothing these kids haven't heard before. He could have talked about other pressing matters. I however, do see the reason for opposition, at least prior to the speech. When you have a President telling the nations students to write how they can help him and all this other stuff, yes sounds a bit like indoctrination to me. They only pulled that, when the outcry started, without that it would have been severely indoctrinational.

That's ok, the youth of America are moving more and more Libertarian (At least, the one's with money and who work....lol.). As you can see with the massive money bombs going to the likes of Rand Paul, Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, etc. And the fact that C4L (Campaign for Liberty) is an organization that is mostly made up of younger people.

Fusion is right, we are all ready socialist, and more accurately, Fascist. Corporate Statism (Welfare) is Fascism; economically, anyways. However, it's not working, and doesn't work, just like Fiat monetary systems don't work and why the nations economic outlook is catatasrophe. You can't have half the country leeching off the other half and expect to be prosperous and free. Totally absurd.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 09 2009 04:22 GMT
#11
On September 09 2009 13:22 Aegraen wrote:
It's not the President's job to be addressing students. It's not even part of the Governments powers to even have public schools, but alas....

Personally principle aside on the roles of Government, especially the Federal Government vice Executive Branch, the speech was pretty lame. It's nothing these kids haven't heard before. He could have talked about other pressing matters. I however, do see the reason for opposition, at least prior to the speech. When you have a President telling the nations students to write how they can help him and all this other stuff, yes sounds a bit like indoctrination to me. They only pulled that, when the outcry started, without that it would have been severely indoctrinational.

That's ok, the youth of America are moving more and more Libertarian (Out least, the one's with money and work....lol.). As you can see with the massive money bombs going to the likes of Rand Paul, Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, etc. And the fact that C4L (Campaign for Liberty) is an organization that is mostly made up of younger people.

Fusion is right, we are all ready socialist, and more accurately, Fascist. Corporate Statism (Welfare) is Fascism; economically, anyways. However, it's not working, and doesn't work, just like Fiat monetary systems don't work and why the nations economic outlook is catatasrophe. You can't have half the country leeching off the other half and expect to be prosperous and free. Totally absurd.

this is precisely what i wanted to avoid
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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
September 09 2009 04:23 GMT
#12
You know what? The president could call up every kid and tell them to stick their dick in a blender if he wanted to do. Cuz he's the president. Its not partisanship, its looking out for the well being of every kid. Well maybe not the blender thing but you know.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 09 2009 04:26 GMT
#13
On September 09 2009 13:23 cgrinker wrote:
You know what? The president could call up every kid and tell them to stick their dick in a blender if he wanted to do. Cuz he's the president. Its not partisanship, its looking out for the well being of every kid. Well maybe not the blender thing but you know.

well that may be looking out for the well being of America
these whippersnappers these days, listening to that damn hip hop and sputtering off all their curse words and talking on their tiny phones and watching all that tv and playing their brain-splattering video games!
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jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
September 09 2009 04:26 GMT
#14
On September 09 2009 13:10 cgrinker wrote:
I was listening to NPR on my way back down to college for the year and heard that parents were pulling their kids out of school because they didn't want their kids listening to a speech from the president. That made me so angry. I mean, he is the president. have some respect.

Thanks for posting this. Even though I'm not in grade school anymore its nice to know what's going on.


where was the uproar about presidential respect when bush was in office? im not even a bush fan but i remember we made fun of him for being stupid, even though he obviously isn't. but just because some parents don't want their kids listening to a speech given by a man whose ideas they don't agree with, and whose speeches heretofore have contained nothing but political rhetoric makes them disrespectful? they had no idea what he was going to say, in hindsight the speech isn't very political at all but they didn't know that. nothing to get angry over
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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
September 09 2009 04:26 GMT
#15
On September 09 2009 13:23 cgrinker wrote:
You know what? The president could call up every kid and tell them to stick their dick in a blender if he wanted to do. Cuz he's the president. Its not partisanship, its looking out for the well being of every kid. Well maybe not the blender thing but you know.


And looking out for the well-being of every kid is the President's job how? Seems to me that's the Parents job....

Remember, the President is a public servant, he serves us the People as our Representative. Not the other way around.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
September 09 2009 04:27 GMT
#16
I want to read it but it was seriously too long..so TL;DR

can someone summarize the "controversial" parts of his speech please?

I don't see whats so bad about a president telling kids to stay in school and try best in education
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 09 2009 04:27 GMT
#17
On September 09 2009 13:18 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2009 13:12 fusionsdf wrote:
OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO MAKE AMERICA SOCIALIST
+ Show Spoiler +
it already is. Socialism works pretty well. Socialism != Communism


Its nice to think that some of his speeches we listen to live will someday be in history books.

lol, as Marx wrote, there is no such thing as "communism" we just know that it is the thing that comes after Socialism. Other thinkers defined communism as being everybody owns everything, but I'm pretty sure Marx criticized them for being wrong. He said that since there hasn't been a communism, nobody knows wtf it looks like. And they still don't, because there has never been any real movement past the idea of Socialism. Germany was militaristically-socialist, the Soviet Union was just totalitarian, Cuba follows pretty much the same lines as the Soviet Union, and China was mostly a cult of personality followed by a Chiang Kai-shek esque pseudo socialist into free market capitalist area.
I actually don't criticize communism, because I dunno what it is. I, however, do criticize socialism, for many reasons that I'm not going to discuss in this otherwise civil thread. Mostly because I want to keep this thread civil.


yeah because if someone gets sick they shouldnt count on any help. And if you're working poor without enough to make rent? fuck you! SURVIVAL OF THE FITTTTTEST YEAH
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 09 2009 04:28 GMT
#18
On September 09 2009 13:27 AzureEye wrote:
I want to read it but it was seriously too long..so TL;DR

can someone summarize the "controversial" parts of his speech please?

I don't see whats so bad about a president telling kids to stay in school and try best in education

controversial parts: none
idiots of america: 75%
percentage of americans that believe they are smarter than the average american: 75%
statistics caller makes up on the spot: 92.5%
relevance: anyways
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 09 2009 04:30 GMT
#19
On September 09 2009 13:27 AzureEye wrote:
I want to read it but it was seriously too long..so TL;DR

can someone summarize the "controversial" parts of his speech please?

I don't see whats so bad about a president telling kids to stay in school and try best in education


There was no controversial parts of the speech it all started with nut jobs like Glenn Beck, who thinks the President is building a secret army and is a communist/fascist etc., who said he was trying to indoctrinate school children and the idiots agreed.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 09 2009 04:30 GMT
#20
On September 09 2009 13:27 fusionsdf wrote:
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On September 09 2009 13:18 Caller wrote:
On September 09 2009 13:12 fusionsdf wrote:
OH MY GOD OBAMA IS GOING TO MAKE AMERICA SOCIALIST
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it already is. Socialism works pretty well. Socialism != Communism


Its nice to think that some of his speeches we listen to live will someday be in history books.

lol, as Marx wrote, there is no such thing as "communism" we just know that it is the thing that comes after Socialism. Other thinkers defined communism as being everybody owns everything, but I'm pretty sure Marx criticized them for being wrong. He said that since there hasn't been a communism, nobody knows wtf it looks like. And they still don't, because there has never been any real movement past the idea of Socialism. Germany was militaristically-socialist, the Soviet Union was just totalitarian, Cuba follows pretty much the same lines as the Soviet Union, and China was mostly a cult of personality followed by a Chiang Kai-shek esque pseudo socialist into free market capitalist area.
I actually don't criticize communism, because I dunno what it is. I, however, do criticize socialism, for many reasons that I'm not going to discuss in this otherwise civil thread. Mostly because I want to keep this thread civil.


yeah because if someone gets sick they shouldnt count on any help. And if you're working poor without enough to make rent? fuck you! SURVIVAL OF THE FITTTTTEST YEAH

point to the part where i advocate anything about the free market in that speech
and i'll point to the part where i want to keep the thread civil and avoid discussion. I said only that I'd criticize socialism.

okay time to derail politics thread
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