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tips for beginner pvter's

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Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-07 03:23:38
September 07 2009 02:29 GMT
#1
Ok, I used to be a huge noob at PvT about 3 months ago and I have a few tips for the complete novice.

-Don't forget to add gates asap, 3 gates for every expo, so you should have 9-10 after you get your econ up.

-Macro

-Be sure to get arb's, this was the main reason my PvT was sucking dick, I didn't even understand how much 1 stasis helped before, now I sure do.. Recalls too if they are turtling.

-Storms are very important, ecentually you will have a lot of gas after your 2d round of zealots, make about 5 hts right after that, 5 hts can cause a LOT of damage.

-If a terran walls ( even if you scout him ) always do the normal 10 gate and then 21 gate, you will be safe from almost all rushes.

-Keep obs at crucial point's on the map to spot vulture raids.

That's all for now, ill edit later, someone wants to 1v1 me.



Edit ( from TL users ) :
- Download Stork vs Idra from the TL rep section and watch how Stork uses his obs by turning on Stork's vision only.

-liquipedia ( get your D ass on liquipedia ASAP. )



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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
September 07 2009 02:33 GMT
#2
- Download Stork vs Idra from the TL rep section and watch how Stork uses his obs by turning on Stork's vision only.
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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
September 07 2009 02:38 GMT
#3
-Where is this reppack
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
September 07 2009 02:40 GMT
#4
-liquipedia
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
September 07 2009 02:41 GMT
#5
-thank you
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Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
September 07 2009 02:45 GMT
#6
-I always forget to get HTs in PvT.. but they are powerful
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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
September 07 2009 02:52 GMT
#7
how about terran tips clasic?
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
September 07 2009 02:56 GMT
#8
On September 07 2009 11:52 BookTwo wrote:
how about terran tips clasic?

c-c-c-combo breaker!!
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Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
September 07 2009 03:20 GMT
#9
On September 07 2009 11:33 motbob wrote:
- Download Stork vs Idra from the TL rep section and watch how Stork uses his obs by turning on Stork's vision only.

yes i did the exact same thing when I used to play. I thought stork was map hacking for a second but then I see circles XD. Then I started to hotkey my robo bay throughout the game just to make obs... then i discovered reavers!
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Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
September 07 2009 03:21 GMT
#10
I'll add in all of the ones I feel are needed.
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
September 07 2009 12:20 GMT
#11
On September 07 2009 11:33 motbob wrote:
- Download Stork vs Idra from the TL rep section and watch how Stork uses his obs by turning on Stork's vision only.

that's actually a really good point. I'm glad you brought that up. observers are an absolutely critical part of playing PvT. your game sense in PvT is improved dramatically simply by knowing how many facs he has and what stage of his tech he's at (sci facility or not, armory count etc) you can tell what sort of game plan he has and adjust your gateway count and economic growth accordingly
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
September 07 2009 12:42 GMT
#12
On September 07 2009 21:20 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2009 11:33 motbob wrote:
- Download Stork vs Idra from the TL rep section and watch how Stork uses his obs by turning on Stork's vision only.

that's actually a really good point. I'm glad you brought that up. observers are an absolutely critical part of playing PvT. your game sense in PvT is improved dramatically simply by knowing how many facs he has and what stage of his tech he's at (sci facility or not, armory count etc) you can tell what sort of game plan he has and adjust your gateway count and economic growth accordingly

If I were a noobie I would have no idea what this means for my game.

Oh wait, I am a noobie (and I have no idea what this means for my game.)
ModeratorGood content always wins.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
September 07 2009 16:22 GMT
#13
On September 07 2009 21:42 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2009 21:20 lazz wrote:
On September 07 2009 11:33 motbob wrote:
- Download Stork vs Idra from the TL rep section and watch how Stork uses his obs by turning on Stork's vision only.

that's actually a really good point. I'm glad you brought that up. observers are an absolutely critical part of playing PvT. your game sense in PvT is improved dramatically simply by knowing how many facs he has and what stage of his tech he's at (sci facility or not, armory count etc) you can tell what sort of game plan he has and adjust your gateway count and economic growth accordingly

If I were a noobie I would have no idea what this means for my game.

Oh wait, I am a noobie (and I have no idea what this means for my game.)

lol.. basically I just mean if you see shitloads of factories constructing you know youll have to cut some probes and get your gateways up to block the incoming push.. or if you see him teching, (building armories, armories spinning, sci facility building etc) or building a command center you know a push probably wont be coming immediately because hes spending his resources elsewhere
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
September 07 2009 16:41 GMT
#14
On September 08 2009 01:22 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2009 21:42 motbob wrote:
On September 07 2009 21:20 lazz wrote:
On September 07 2009 11:33 motbob wrote:
- Download Stork vs Idra from the TL rep section and watch how Stork uses his obs by turning on Stork's vision only.

that's actually a really good point. I'm glad you brought that up. observers are an absolutely critical part of playing PvT. your game sense in PvT is improved dramatically simply by knowing how many facs he has and what stage of his tech he's at (sci facility or not, armory count etc) you can tell what sort of game plan he has and adjust your gateway count and economic growth accordingly

If I were a noobie I would have no idea what this means for my game.

Oh wait, I am a noobie (and I have no idea what this means for my game.)

lol.. basically I just mean if you see shitloads of factories constructing you know youll have to cut some probes and get your gateways up to block the incoming push.. or if you see him teching, (building armories, armories spinning, sci facility building etc) or building a command center you know a push probably wont be coming immediately because hes spending his resources elsewhere



oh my god, I have no idea this is how it's done! thanks lazz.. I usually keep producting probes no matter what the hell Terran is doing lolz
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
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