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Flash
(T) (stats)
+4 1 Lee Young Ho has been at top form lately, going 10 - 0 in October and sweeping through both his MST and OSL groups. Of course, he's also led KT in stellar Proleague R1 opener and while hero is the only really big name he toppled, it's difficult to argue with stats like that. Having gone through some off time due to KT not making the PL playoffs last season, Flash used October to show that the rest has done him good and that he's back with a better TvZ than ever before.
2.
Jaedong
(Z) (stats)
-1 1 For once, I predict there will be a ruckus about how high Jaedong is on the PR. The truth is, The Tyrant was clearly not at his best in October. Dropping ZvZs to Zero, Hyuk and 815, he looked pretty bad. Having said that, no one except Flash looked really good this month either, and while going 2 - 3 will drop him down one slot to make way for the marauding KT Terran, it's not going to make him drop to Calm. Of course, he's going to have to seriously pull his weight in November if he wants to stay in the top three for long.
3.
Inter.Calm
(Z) (stats)
-1 2 Dear Calm, I really wanted to put you higher this month. I mean seriously, your play against Backho was amazing, and truth be told you have been on a monster streak lately. To say I was pushing for you for #1 this month would be an understatement. I was positively giddy with excitement after your OSL group and to be fair, you are 9 - 2 this month, and in second place for PL wins. The problem is obviously not in your wins then, but in how you won some of those games. Your ZvP, it needs some fine tuning, as the game you almost lost vs Sangho showed. Dude, I really, really, really want to put you at #1, and I'm confident that in this next month I'll be able to. Please do it. DO IT. Your fan, riptide.
4.
Stork[gm]
(P) (stats)
+3 1 The Fall or not and map imbalances aside, Dinotoss is here dishing out the dirt. Going 5 - 1 this month and crushing both his individual league groups, Stork is looking good once again. Call him neo-Yellow, the silversmith, call him what you like, but it's hard to argue with a Protoss who is just so consistent. While I don't rule out the possibility of him failing in a final, if he continues to play the way he has this month, the road to one is most definitely open for the KHAN player.
5.
Bisu
(P) (stats)
-2 1 He lost to Shine, yes, and yes, it was bad. Yet, despite his OSL failings, he has been pulling SK Telecom 1 along like always, going 4 - 0 in Proleague with a PvP that is looking positively stunning. As much as anti-fans would be delighted with me dropping him further down the list, the fact remains that Bisu would need to lose a lot more to give up #5. Along with Stork, he is currently at the top of the Protoss hierarchy, and one bo3 loss isn't going to change that.
6.
Fantasy
(T) (stats)
-2 1 Fantasy started off the month with a really bad game against Stats on Destination. I'd like to say his form improved thereafter, but truth be told it didn't, and his two position drop is clearly indicative of this. With that said however, Fantasy is still 3 - 1 in Proleague, and due to his OSL seed hasn't got a chance to play any games there. His MST loss, though disappointing, is not enough to push him down further than this. Like Jaedong however, his position on the PR is pretty precarious as we head into what is likely to be an action packed November.
7.
Effort
(Z) (stats)
+2 1 If anything, this entry is going to be the cause of a tempest in a teacup. Effort above Hyuk, but he beat him, amirite? Well, it doesn't work that way.While both Zerg players are looking very strong at the moment, Hyuk needs more all round form before he can climb higher on the rank, especially against the names that grace the top half of this list. Effort on the other hand has been consistent on all fronts for some time now, and crawls up one spot from last time due to getting more play time. As we head into November, the CJ Zerg certainly has the opportunity to make up for the brief vacation he had as a result of his team dropping out of the PL playoffs, and if he continues to show his current form in the month to come, the top half of the next PR may well be his for the taking.
8.
Shine[Kal]
(Z) (stats)
- 4 Broodwar is full of unlikely heroes, and out of them, Shine is perhaps the unlikeliest. Yet, from eliminating none other than Kim Taek Yong from the OSL earlier in the month, to the awesome game vs Violet on Destination later on, the Wemade Zerg has been raising eyebrows up and down the proscene. Queens and ensnare aside though, if he continues to pull his weight in PL and rip through the individual leagues as he did in October, he will climb at least a couple of notches in the months to come. At the moment he sits below Effort purely because has yet to establish himself as a big name sniper. I enjoy his play immensely, and as much as I'd like to push him up further than this, knocking Bisu out in a bo3 isn't enough to give him an edge over Effort right now.
9.
HyuK
(Z) (stats)
- 9 Sniping Jaedong, Effort and Stork and snagging wins over Hoejja and Kwanro as well, Hyuk has been on the rampage this October. However, the PR has never been kind to flashes in the pan, and this SKT Zerg is going to need to hold it together for longer if he wants to take positions against the big names that sit here above him. In particular, his ZvT needs to be established as worthy of a PR-ranked player, and at present, it simply isn't, as his disastrous loss to Sea showed. Though he definitely has the potential to be a future top 3 contender if he continues his present form, Hyuk is going no higher than #9 in October. Also, before you begin to scream about Shine being above him, ask yourself this question - who is the more well rounded player at the moment? It's a no brainer.
10.
Kal
(P) (stats)
- 3 What's the deal with Kal? You hear about him for a while, then he goes on hiatus and returns to rock the leagues here and there again. It's weird, but he's back this season for sure. Going 5 - 2 in October, with one of those losses being to Jaedong, he moved through his MST group with ease, and was Calm's right hand in PL to boot, netting 3 - 2, STX's second highest win/loss ratio so far. While Movie has looked equally good in the individual leagues, the STX player's Proleague run easily gives him the edge, especially seeing how his CJ counterpart is 1 - 3, a near reverse of his own stats.


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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 01:39:55
November 01 2009 13:23 GMT
#1
CBNC

Luxury - Despite poor individual league performances, Luxury has lead KT through a great first three weeks of Proleague. Along with Flash, he has made sure that his team has stayed at the top of the rankings, and in doing so has gone 5 - 1, tying with Calm for 2nd place so far this season. Certainly, this twin is not playing spectacularly, his OSL loss to Guemchi showing this better than ever. As an invaluable arm of one of PL's top teams though, he snags a CBNC position with ease.

Pusan - The Legend of the Fall hype aside, Spirit Toss has had a mixed month. Breezing through his OSL group with ease, he then fell in the MST to Jangbi. With wins against Forgg, Canata, Best and Mind though, it's clear that Pusan is very much on his way back to some semblance of form. If he continues to do well in the OSL, and maybe gets played a bit more in Proleague, he just may end up on the PR in the months to come. In fact, one could safely say that the only thing keeping him from a top ten spot right now is the lack of a big name win.

Movie - Probably the most hyped Protoss since Violet, Movie came under the spotlight during the PL playoffs last season where he pulled an amazing win against Leta. This season he blazed through individual groups, but doesn't make the PR because his his biggest win was against hero in the OSL Ro36. To be fair, maybe it's not his fault that he hasn't had a chance to prove himself against a top calibre player yet. All the same, his 1 - 3 PL record puts him on par with firebathero, which in turn makes it very difficult for him to be even considered for the PR this month.

Zero - While Kwanro's move to Stars was expected to boost their Zerg lineup, it was Zero who really stepped up this month as his counterpart failed. With wins against Jaedong, Stats and Bogus this month, he kept the ball rolling for Woongjin and if his OSL win had been against anyone but firebathero, he may have even had a chance of making it on to the PR this month.
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-01 13:34:10
November 01 2009 13:25 GMT
#2
Thanks!

Edit: Flash's record for October is 10-0 though, isn't it?
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Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
November 01 2009 13:28 GMT
#3
Fantasy started off the month with a really bad game against Stats on Destination. I'd like to say his form improved thereafter, but truth be told it didn't, and his three position drop is clearly indicative of this.


Fantasy only dropped two positions. Otherwise, great power rank!
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
November 01 2009 13:35 GMT
#4
Doh, fixed.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 01 2009 13:37 GMT
#5
its not the right shine!!
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
November 01 2009 13:38 GMT
#6
Sorry, there was um, an issue with a dropdown box that has now been resolved. Don't worry, it was given a severe speaking to.
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 01 2009 13:49 GMT
#7
Meh...

How can you put (P)Kal above (P)Movie? Just because he has got two more PL wins? Their MSL groups were both easy. And (P)Movie crushed ZvP monster (Z)by.hero.

(P)Movie is in the OSL Ro16 while (P)Kal failed against (Z)Just...
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 01 2009 13:57 GMT
#8
Finally Flash is back where he belongs
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-01 14:09:15
November 01 2009 14:03 GMT
#9
This PR actually pretty accurately tell people who is the better player now.
Good ratio of counting results + watching their actuall skill.

Well done!

Zero just recently started playing really good but that will count for next PR:D

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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 01 2009 14:03 GMT
#10
On November 01 2009 22:49 SuperArc wrote:
Meh...

How can you put (P)Kal above (P)Movie? Just because he has got two more PL wins? Their MSL groups were both easy. And (P)Movie crushed ZvP monster (Z)by.hero.

(P)Movie is in the OSL Ro16 while (P)Kal failed against (Z)Just...


This is how I'd justify it: Kal won the games he should win. Movie lost to Pure. I'm impressed by the win against by.hero, except that Movie has a reputation for coming up with solid builds and wins against Zergs. (And I don't like by.hero, that too. He's a one-matchup wonder who lacks consistency even there.)

My candidate for #10 would actually be ZerO this month, games against Leta aside. But hey.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-01 14:09:18
November 01 2009 14:06 GMT
#11
On November 01 2009 22:57 Necosarius wrote:
Finally Flash is back where he belongs

This.

Imho, if we were to make this PR from results, and not from how good we know they are, bisu and fantasy do not belong that high. Same goes for Jaedong.

Also, "Jaedong has to put his way through October if he wants to stay this high"... Typo @ October?
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
November 01 2009 14:08 GMT
#12
Good PR, with some good calls that you probably wont regret the next months, putting Shine/Hyuk higher and youll get hit by raging screaming fanboys as soon as they make a quit exit in the individual leagues, and if they prove they are the real deal, they simply move up, thats how the PR always worked. I really liked how you dealt with it, no10 is truly subjective although kal wasnt on anyones mind but Pusan/Movie/Hwasin were. Nothing to complain about here.
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
November 01 2009 14:11 GMT
#13
2nd sentence of flash's description - i think you meant "led," not "lead."

and anyway, always look forward to each month's power rank. i knew this one would be interesting.

thanks!
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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
November 01 2009 14:16 GMT
#14
Nice PR

I don't think Jaedong is ranked too high, his performance last month was mediocore and some of his losses were BO loss ZvZ's

But then again, I would have placed Calm #2 and JD #3
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
November 01 2009 14:17 GMT
#15
Fixed misc typos. Thanks for pointing them out.
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SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
November 01 2009 14:35 GMT
#16
Jaedong should be out of PR. I thought PR measures only 1 month. And this month every CBNC was better than Jaedong.
Bisu... ;-(
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
November 01 2009 15:06 GMT
#17
Power Rank is a measure of how well the players play over the given month. I forget who said it, but someone said "if these players were to play a bo5 against each other on the given day, the #1 power rank should beat them all". Basically, it's a measure of the players' current shape and results over time, with the current results being weighted more.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-01 15:19:45
November 01 2009 15:10 GMT
#18
On November 01 2009 23:35 SkytoM wrote:
Jaedong should be out of PR. I thought PR measures only 1 month. And this month every CBNC was better than Jaedong.


Well JD is already qualified for both leagues and that shouldn't be counted against him with being 3 - 3 this month 2 - 3 ZvZ he shouldn't drop that much maybe you can argue for Calm being # 2 but after that who else should take the third spot if JD isn't third ? On the other note he apsolutely destroyed Kal showing his ZvP is in top form and while his ZvT hasn't been tested there is no evidence that it declined last month . His biggest loss if you ask me is against Huyk who is in his best form right now . JD went 1 - 1 against Zero winning the important ACE match and had a BO loss against 815 so not much else to say about his ZvZ other then it's not as invincible as before . His stats doesn't show much here when we are talking about back to back reigning OSL champion JD .
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 01 2009 15:12 GMT
#19
On November 01 2009 23:35 SkytoM wrote:
Jaedong should be out of PR. I thought PR measures only 1 month. And this month every CBNC was better than Jaedong.

PR is supposed to be a ranking of the 10 best players in Korea. Riptide looks at the games played over the month and evaluates them - results don't matter so much - more of how the games played out. For instance, a 2gate proxy loss doesn't change much but losing a standard game in humiliating fashion does. Still count as a loss - just one is more indicative of skill than anything else. Results are a good starting point, but can only give a piece of the picture - if you wanted a ranking based on results look at the elo rank or the kespa rank - PR isn't a rehash of either.
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Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
November 01 2009 15:15 GMT
#20
I really liked this ranking, if I made one it would look about the same.
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