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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
July 29 2008 08:26 GMT
#1
Right. So people rate blogs, and (at least some) people care. But some people like making ratings that don't actually reflect the qualify of the post, and that ruins it for everyone.

How about implementing a meta-moderation system? If you make a rating of 1 on a great post, and 10 other people rate it a 5, then your credibility rating drops. And vice versa. Also subject to abuse, but it will have to be more coordinated (and possibly more obvious). Search function yields a post by SonuvBob, saying that we don't have any such meta-moderation yet. But which also indicates it's already been given some thought.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 09:33:10
July 29 2008 09:09 GMT
#2
i agree! good system!

also, she wants you bdares*!!

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*bottleabuser = (bd)ares = msn / bnet id
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 29 2008 09:16 GMT
#3
bdares? O_O

and yea I baiscally concur.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 12:30:48
July 29 2008 12:30 GMT
#4
my blog got owned by someone
/cry
plz implement to save my rating! (was like 4.49 now 4.00 T_T)
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
indecision
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Germany818 Posts
July 29 2008 13:45 GMT
#5
could also do a system that weighs your votes against each other. So if you always vote 1, you won't count. If your only votes are 1 and 2, 2 will count as 5 and so on.
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 14:11:45
July 29 2008 14:10 GMT
#6
As should be apparent to any slashdot readers, I'm pretty blatantly taking their idea of metamoderation. Except that everyone has unlimited mod points.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
July 29 2008 14:54 GMT
#7
yeah there are people that just vote 1/5 on everything, its pretty annoying
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
July 29 2008 15:05 GMT
#8
On July 29 2008 23:54 RaGe wrote:
yeah there are people that just vote 1/5 on everything, its pretty annoying

There are people who vote 5/5 on everything though.
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jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
July 29 2008 15:25 GMT
#9
Bad idea imo, ratings should reflect the average vote. Just because someone votes odd or stupid it doesn't mean that vote should be worth less.

And even if there's people always voting 1, the same applies to every blog, and better blogs generally get a higher ratings.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 29 2008 16:08 GMT
#10
Can we just rid the rating system and have a featured blog or even the section from PX?
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overpool
Profile Joined April 2008
United States191 Posts
July 29 2008 18:18 GMT
#11
On July 29 2008 22:45 indecision wrote:
could also do a system that weighs your votes against each other. So if you always vote 1, you won't count. If your only votes are 1 and 2, 2 will count as 5 and so on.

I think this is a great idea. It is far simpler than implementing karma + m2, and allows a difference of opinion while negating the effect of the 1/5 trolls.
yay i love tl events
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
July 29 2008 19:03 GMT
#12
Or if you want to be rally fancy you can correlate the votes with each other and present the user an estimate of what he would vote
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 21:08:23
July 29 2008 21:06 GMT
#13
On July 29 2008 22:45 indecision wrote:
could also do a system that weighs your votes against each other. So if you always vote 1, you won't count. If your only votes are 1 and 2, 2 will count as 5 and so on.

Here's what I wrote in the other thread:

On February 03 2008 04:10 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2008 00:32 Aepplet wrote:
i think animenewsnetwork uses some system to weigh less for people who only rate super high and super low, not sure how it works though...

Looks like they won't divulge their method (so people can't figure out how to abuse it).

There's basically three voting patterns that skew the results:

1. People who are essentially "too nice" - always voting high (no 1's or 2's). Not a serious problem, but they raise the ratings of all the blogs they vote on, essentially lowering the blogs they don't read or vote on. Same with people who always vote low.

I think at least at some point IMDB took this into account, normalizing each user's votes.

2. People who always vote 5 for things they like and 1 for things they hate, figuring their vote will carry more weight.

This is easily detectable - if the standard deviation is close to 0 (always one particular number) or [update: avg(abs(3-rating)) is] 2 (all 1's/5's) for a user with more than a handful of votes, we can give their votes less weight.

3. Malicious users. Same as #2, except they tend to vote down all of a user's posts.

These are easy to detect, but I'm not sure what to do with them. I guess we could have a voting ban or something.

I just made a quick voting ban system for the users in group 3. 12 users added so far, and the ratings already look a lot more accurate.

Poor d4d dropped like 8 spots because he's the only one who wasn't mass 1'd by anyone. :p
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 22 2008 08:26 GMT
#14
why oh why do people insist on mass 1'ing!!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
August 22 2008 09:22 GMT
#15
or just remove the ratings altogether. if a blog is good, people will post in it.
Moonlight Shadow
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Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
August 22 2008 09:40 GMT
#16
Or just remove blogs altogether.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 22 2008 16:09 GMT
#17
or you could have like a poll tally...
dunno if this makes sense but, alright for example plexa makes an awesome 5/5 deserving post
and votes are as followed..
5: 200
4:10
3:10
2:10
1:50

it automatically accepts the 5, because that was the most popular one,
so basically what im suggesting is no averaging for individual blogs
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 23 2008 10:34 GMT
#18
yea well i mean i don't expect to get mass 5'd but you know theres something fishy when you drop from 4.6~ to 4.56 and hover there for while then randomly one day you drop another 0.2 even though no blog was posted
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 23 2008 10:49 GMT
#19
what
only 5's are good enough for plexa
i think it was cause of the boxer blog lol
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-23 13:16:19
August 23 2008 13:14 GMT
#20
boxer/jaedong blogs weren't too bad - took a dive from 4.64 to 4.56 then a bizarre .02 drop. i only have one 5 blog though hahaha

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Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-23 15:14:31
August 23 2008 15:13 GMT
#21
heeeh I have TWO fives
obviously, in light of this overwhelming evidence my blogs > plexa's blogs


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"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
August 23 2008 15:17 GMT
#22
anytime someone makes a thread about this i vote 1 on all their blogs out of principle
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
August 23 2008 17:42 GMT
#23
I fucking hate it though

to have your good blog posts rated 1 is basically the same as someone posting in your thread that you are wasting your time, but anonymously so you can t tell them to fuck off

At one point I had like 4.5 star+ average

now my best blog is 3.3, and half my entreis are 1
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-25 06:22:22
August 25 2008 06:21 GMT
#24
If it's just a matter of quantity of 5's I win.
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Tired in the A.M. (MY LIFE IS IN DANGER) 2007-12-06 04:51:42 787 36 nA.Inky 3
Winter Coats 2007-12-03 07:41:49 290 10 Equinox_kr 5
Bowling Week 12 2007-11-29 09:42:24 204 15 DukE_ss n/a
Reasons to Quit SC 2007-11-26 00:41:22 762 33 Snet n/a
Breakfast Suggestion 2007-11-24 10:04:25 226 10 EpiK n/a
External Hard Drives 2007-11-24 09:04:49 169 3 Physician n/a
Bowling Week 11 2007-11-20 02:31:34 134 6 DukE_ss 3
Bowling Week 10 2007-11-12 16:35:30 137 5 micronesia 1
Bowling Week 9 2007-11-05 16:14:18 131 3 paper 1
Bowling Week 8 2007-10-30 06:49:58 132 6 DukE_ss 1
Projection Question 2007-10-29 18:03:38 157 11 JensOfSweden n/a
Audio Hardware Question 2007-10-28 09:35:38 91 0 micronesia n/a
Bowling Week 7 2007-10-23 05:28:05 108 4 micronesia 3
Bowling Week 6 ;-( 2007-10-22 04:23:40 149 3 Hypnosis 3
Bowling Week 4 :D 2007-10-18 04:06:30 185 6 ~OpZ~ 4
Bowling Week 5 2007-10-15 15:41:44 118 3 ~OpZ~ 3
Bowling Week 3 2007-09-26 00:26:41 118 5 DukE_ss 4
Bowling Week 2 2007-09-17 14:40:56 172 9 DukE_ss 4
Bowling Practice 9-15-07 2007-09-17 03:49:14 290 15 DukE_ss 4
Bowling Week 1 2007-09-16 08:57:31 325 21 Yaqoob 5
Singing on a Bus 2007-09-10 03:39:15 211 5 Hawk 5
Bittorrent 2007-08-27 00:52:30 216 10 HellAngel 3
Floating in Space 2007-08-24 05:37:30 166 4 micronesia 4
AIM Screen Name Stolen 2007-08-19 09:10:36 228 4 evanthebouncy! 4
Contact Lens Question 2007-08-13 04:30:32 265 11 useless 4
ICCUP 2007-08-11 06:30:01 480 10 Scorpion 4
Blepharitis 2007-07-27 06:11:55 355 6 micronesia 4
Why do I play this game? 2007-07-13 18:54:54 228 4 Broken.Mind 4.5
Telephone Customer Service 2007-07-13 08:37:35 122 0 micronesia 5
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LOL 29 by mass blogging.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 25 2008 07:46 GMT
#25
:o gosu
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
August 25 2008 23:27 GMT
#26
Wow, I didn't know you could view the votes people made on your blogs :< (don't think I've ever made a blog).
At least I don't think I've voted down people who don't deserve it, but I'm glad I found that out
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
August 25 2008 23:44 GMT
#27
On August 26 2008 08:27 HnR)Insane wrote:
Wow, I didn't know you could view the votes people made on your blogs :< (don't think I've ever made a blog).
At least I don't think I've voted down people who don't deserve it, but I'm glad I found that out

No I think they are posting the page which shows who was the last person to vote in your blog, followed by the blog's average rating.
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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
August 25 2008 23:50 GMT
#28
On August 26 2008 08:44 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2008 08:27 HnR)Insane wrote:
Wow, I didn't know you could view the votes people made on your blogs :< (don't think I've ever made a blog).
At least I don't think I've voted down people who don't deserve it, but I'm glad I found that out

No I think they are posting the page which shows who was the last person to vote in your blog, followed by the blog's average rating.

Ohhhh, duhhh, ok.
I thought it was showing them how people voted, and I was amazed that info was public (well available to the author), lol.

In my defense, I'm multitasking : (
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
August 26 2008 00:42 GMT
#29
On August 26 2008 08:50 HnR)Insane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2008 08:44 micronesia wrote:
On August 26 2008 08:27 HnR)Insane wrote:
Wow, I didn't know you could view the votes people made on your blogs :< (don't think I've ever made a blog).
At least I don't think I've voted down people who don't deserve it, but I'm glad I found that out

No I think they are posting the page which shows who was the last person to vote in your blog, followed by the blog's average rating.

Ohhhh, duhhh, ok.
I thought it was showing them how people voted, and I was amazed that info was public (well available to the author), lol.

In my defense, I'm multitasking : (

I wish that was reflected in your 1v1 also -_-

I actually thought the same exact thing when I saw it the first time (the way I figured it out was when I looked at my own blog format and recognized the identical format)
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 26 2008 03:00 GMT
#30
no i think that was just the last comment ;O u never know what people vote you
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
August 26 2008 03:10 GMT
#31
On August 26 2008 12:00 HeavOnEarth wrote:
no i think that was just the last comment ;O u never know what people vote you

Ah yeah sorry, I meant to say last person to comment rather than to vote.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10505 Posts
August 26 2008 07:42 GMT
#32
is there evidence that people are spam voting 1's, or is it just a conspiracy cause people's blog ratings dropped slightly and now they are upset?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
August 26 2008 07:49 GMT
#33
On August 26 2008 16:42 BlackJack wrote:
is there evidence that people are spam voting 1's, or is it just a conspiracy cause people's blog ratings dropped slightly and now they are upset?

The blogs that are being targeted are clear evidence. If a specific blog entry looks decent and then has a 1, it's obvious someone is being an idiot (especially if it happens multiple times, which it has been)
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10505 Posts
August 26 2008 09:40 GMT
#34
On August 26 2008 16:49 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2008 16:42 BlackJack wrote:
is there evidence that people are spam voting 1's, or is it just a conspiracy cause people's blog ratings dropped slightly and now they are upset?

The blogs that are being targeted are clear evidence. If a specific blog entry looks decent and then has a 1, it's obvious someone is being an idiot (especially if it happens multiple times, which it has been)


And who decides if a blog looks decent?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 26 2008 10:22 GMT
#35
On August 26 2008 16:42 BlackJack wrote:
is there evidence that people are spam voting 1's, or is it just a conspiracy cause people's blog ratings dropped slightly and now they are upset?
yes, people do actually go round and mass 1 people just ask sonuvbob
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distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
August 26 2008 16:13 GMT
#36
if you see people doing it ban their asses.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
August 26 2008 17:01 GMT
#37
On August 26 2008 18:40 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2008 16:49 micronesia wrote:
On August 26 2008 16:42 BlackJack wrote:
is there evidence that people are spam voting 1's, or is it just a conspiracy cause people's blog ratings dropped slightly and now they are upset?

The blogs that are being targeted are clear evidence. If a specific blog entry looks decent and then has a 1, it's obvious someone is being an idiot (especially if it happens multiple times, which it has been)


And who decides if a blog looks decent?

It's a collective effort of several veteran forum users.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32058 Posts
August 26 2008 17:37 GMT
#38
On August 24 2008 00:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
anytime someone makes a thread about this i vote 1 on all their blogs out of principle


Agreed

Who gives a shit you pansies.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
August 26 2008 20:33 GMT
#39
On August 27 2008 02:37 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2008 00:17 Hot_Bid wrote:
anytime someone makes a thread about this i vote 1 on all their blogs out of principle


Agreed

Who gives a shit you pansies.

If nobody gives a shit about the blog ratings system, it shouldn't be there.

In order to justify it being there, a minor acknowledgment of the problem is all that is needed (and is already provided in this thread so the issue may rest).
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-26 21:08:15
August 26 2008 21:07 GMT
#40
as a result of this thread, i went through and rated all of micronesia's blogs a 1 (man that took a long time) and it dropped his overall rating from 3.5 to 2.3

if the admins want to ban me from blog ratings or somehow fix what i did to micro's blog, feel free

but for now, it's totally within the rules!!!
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-26 21:17:11
August 26 2008 21:16 GMT
#41
On August 27 2008 06:07 Hot_Bid wrote:
as a result of this thread, i went through and rated all of micronesia's blogs a 1 (man that took a long time) and it dropped his overall rating from 3.5 to 2.3

if the admins want to ban me from blog ratings or somehow fix what i did to micro's blog, feel free

but for now, it's totally within the rules!!!

You actually admitted you spent that long doing it lol (btw he's not lying)

edit: 134 entires he went through
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
August 26 2008 21:18 GMT
#42
On August 27 2008 06:16 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2008 06:07 Hot_Bid wrote:
as a result of this thread, i went through and rated all of micronesia's blogs a 1 (man that took a long time) and it dropped his overall rating from 3.5 to 2.3

if the admins want to ban me from blog ratings or somehow fix what i did to micro's blog, feel free

but for now, it's totally within the rules!!!

You actually admitted you spent that long doing it lol (btw he's not lying)

edit: 134 entires he went through

1'ing 134 entries takes dedication, and i'm all about that
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
August 26 2008 21:20 GMT
#43
uh
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
August 26 2008 21:38 GMT
#44
On August 27 2008 06:18 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2008 06:16 micronesia wrote:
On August 27 2008 06:07 Hot_Bid wrote:
as a result of this thread, i went through and rated all of micronesia's blogs a 1 (man that took a long time) and it dropped his overall rating from 3.5 to 2.3

if the admins want to ban me from blog ratings or somehow fix what i did to micro's blog, feel free

but for now, it's totally within the rules!!!

You actually admitted you spent that long doing it lol (btw he's not lying)

edit: 134 entires he went through

1'ing 134 entries takes dedication, and i'm all about that

You put a lot of effort into your hate crimes. And you brainwashed another forum user to join in. Shame on you.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 26 2008 21:41 GMT
#45
nuuuuuu micronesia
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
August 26 2008 22:25 GMT
#46
I'd mass 5 to make up for it, but I'm not that fucking bored
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
August 26 2008 22:33 GMT
#47
Thanks for creating more work for me HB, there's just never enough to do around here. For your efforts, you get to be the only person who knows for certain that his votes don't count.
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
August 26 2008 22:57 GMT
#48
It's not like you have a moral obligation to reverse his work though.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
August 26 2008 23:00 GMT
#49
why not?
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
August 26 2008 23:04 GMT
#50
SonuvBob is the archangel that guards TeamLiquidians from the evils of blog vote spammers. It is his duty, handed down by God, to purge the soulless beings that roam these forums.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
August 26 2008 23:13 GMT
#51
It's not about morals, it's about keeping the ratings accurate so they're not meaningless.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10505 Posts
August 27 2008 01:25 GMT
#52
Lol Hot_Bid wins. Blogging isn't a competition. The rating system should give you a general idea of what people thought about your writing, it shouldn't give you bragging rights to say "im ranked 7 on TL blogs with a score of 4.5 out of 5" because frankly, nobody cares except for you guys. Hot_Bid is just trying to help you get over it by showing you the system has little meaning and is mostly for fun.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10505 Posts
August 27 2008 01:28 GMT
#53
P.S. letting people know how much it pisses you off that they rate your blogs a 1 is the easiest way to get targeted by a malicious user. Now if you beef with anyone they can get back at you with the push of a button..
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-27 01:38:15
August 27 2008 01:37 GMT
#54
Why do people keep dropping in to say 'lol you guys are wrong: it's blah' -_-a

On August 27 2008 10:25 BlackJack wrote:
Lol Hot_Bid wins.
What exactly did he accomplish? He wasted time and the effects of his work are erased. If you mean he's the funniest person in this thread, then perhaps.
Blogging isn't a competition.

Because? I personally don't consider it much of a competition either, but if the rating system is reasonably accurate, then there's no reason not to try to have the best rating. Appealing to the readers is good. If you don't care about your rating, then don't worry about it so long as you don't get your blogs closed... but there's no reason to complain that other people shouldn't care.
The rating system should give you a general idea of what people thought about your writing,

Which it certainly doesn't if people play significant amounts of hankie pankie like they have before. Either it is meant to be fairly accurate, or it isn't meant to be accurate at all. No in-between really works. I don't see why your decision that it should 'give you a general idea of what people thought about your writing' should be the letter of the law rather than your own opinion (and don't pull that 'oh obviously this is just my opinion' crap because you clearly are asserting that the people with contrary viewpoints are wrong).
it shouldn't give you bragging rights to say "im ranked 7 on TL blogs with a score of 4.5 out of 5" because frankly, nobody cares except for you guys.
You used the word 'because', but the second half of the sentence doesn't seem to support the first half in any way.
Hot_Bid is just trying to help you get over it by showing you the system has little meaning and is mostly for fun.
I really don't think that's what he was doing. If he was trying to help people get over it, he would have targeted people who seriously cared about their own ratings (like plexa who seriously deserves a good rating).

That's right Hot_Bid. Go give 1's to Plexa's blog. Oh wait they don't count.
+ Show Spoiler +
burn!


Edit:
On August 27 2008 10:28 BlackJack wrote:
P.S. letting people know how much it pisses you off that they rate your blogs a 1 is the easiest way to get targeted by a malicious user. Now if you beef with anyone they can get back at you with the push of a button..

I agree with you.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
August 27 2008 01:48 GMT
#55
On a separate note, the blogs section seems to have an error:

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Raithed, crazie-penguin, and I seem to have our posts quantity swapped when sorting by posts count.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
August 27 2008 03:01 GMT
#56
OMG MY WORK IS RUINNNEED

you are back to 3.58 micro!!

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-27 03:03:23
August 27 2008 03:03 GMT
#57
On August 27 2008 12:01 Hot_Bid wrote:
OMG MY WORK IS RUINNNEED

you are back to 3.58 micro!!


If SonuvBob hard-coded my rating to 1 star I wouldn't complain. You didn't succeed either way.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
August 27 2008 03:04 GMT
#58
its being sorted by # of blogs now micronesia
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-27 03:21:16
August 27 2008 03:13 GMT
#59
On August 27 2008 12:04 fusionsdf wrote:
its being sorted by # of blogs now micronesia

Yes. And? I am the one with ~127 if I wasn't clear.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
August 27 2008 04:11 GMT
#60
Fixed. It wasn't swapping them, just calculating them wrong.
Administrator
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 01 2008 03:49 GMT
#61
Petition to end ratings on blogs in favor of creating "featured blogs"
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
September 01 2008 04:26 GMT
#62
On September 01 2008 12:49 Plexa wrote:
Petition to end ratings on blogs in favor of creating "featured blogs"

How would that work? A staff member chooses a couple of blogs per week, or something like that?
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
September 01 2008 05:35 GMT
#63
if we have featured blogs im totally vetoing all of micronesias

that'll show that sonuvbob for negating all my hard earned 1's
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-01 05:37:06
September 01 2008 05:36 GMT
#64
On September 01 2008 14:35 Hot_Bid wrote:
if we have featured blogs im totally vetoing all of micronesias

that'll show that sonuvbob for negating all my hard earned 1's

Why don't you encourage SonuvBob to make a blog, and then veto that?

Although if you had a special 'vetoed blogs' section where I'd sit, then that would be kinda cool.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 01 2008 10:26 GMT
#65
I'm sure "good" blogs can be filtered pretty easy, similar to what haji was doing before but obviously stricter than he was doing (can't have 1231231231 entries)
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32058 Posts
September 02 2008 18:49 GMT
#66
Lot's of entries are fine, so long as they're entertaining/infromative/etc.

When idiots post lot's of stupid shit (off the top of my head, the 324234 hot women blogs, siegetanksandbluegoo's shit, a daily blog about you fucking your stupid 8th grade girlfriend) that's when it gets annoying.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
September 03 2008 03:04 GMT
#67
On September 03 2008 03:49 Hawk wrote:
Lot's of entries are fine, so long as they're entertaining/infromative/etc.

When idiots post lot's of stupid shit (off the top of my head, the 324234 hot women blogs, siegetanksandbluegoo's shit, a daily blog about you fucking your stupid 8th grade girlfriend) that's when it gets annoying.

hahahah thats basically the only blogs i ever see
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
September 03 2008 04:04 GMT
#68
On September 03 2008 12:04 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 03:49 Hawk wrote:
Lot's of entries are fine, so long as they're entertaining/infromative/etc.

When idiots post lot's of stupid shit (off the top of my head, the 324234 hot women blogs, siegetanksandbluegoo's shit, a daily blog about you fucking your stupid 8th grade girlfriend) that's when it gets annoying.

hahahah thats basically the only blogs i ever see

Gotta read the bowling blogs, car blogs, and physics/math blogs, since Hawk obviously doesn't find them annoying.
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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
September 03 2008 17:46 GMT
#69
On September 03 2008 12:04 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 03:49 Hawk wrote:
Lot's of entries are fine, so long as they're entertaining/infromative/etc.

When idiots post lot's of stupid shit (off the top of my head, the 324234 hot women blogs, siegetanksandbluegoo's shit, a daily blog about you fucking your stupid 8th grade girlfriend) that's when it gets annoying.

hahahah thats basically the only blogs i ever see

That's obviously cuz you love reading that sort of stuff!
Pwntrucci[sR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1519 Posts
September 05 2008 18:50 GMT
#70
I think the blog system is fine as it is, the PX featured blog thing is great too.
bg
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32058 Posts
September 05 2008 19:50 GMT
#71
On September 03 2008 13:04 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 12:04 Kennigit wrote:
On September 03 2008 03:49 Hawk wrote:
Lot's of entries are fine, so long as they're entertaining/infromative/etc.

When idiots post lot's of stupid shit (off the top of my head, the 324234 hot women blogs, siegetanksandbluegoo's shit, a daily blog about you fucking your stupid 8th grade girlfriend) that's when it gets annoying.

hahahah thats basically the only blogs i ever see

Gotta read the bowling blogs, car blogs, and physics/math blogs, since Hawk obviously doesn't find them annoying.


I'd rather read those then listen to every socially inept retard write about how they love the girl in that they pass at 12:43 pm every day on the way to lunch =]
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