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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 31 2016 10:33 GMT
#161
This is nothing compared to Ukraine. Here we have some contentious disagreement, there it was just straight up hostility and misinformation from every side.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
September 01 2016 02:44 GMT
#162
Instead of those Barrin rules we should just enforce the charity rule, where one side must interpret the other side's arguments as charitably as possible. This xDaunt vs the world argument goes on for way too long when xDaunt clearly lays out his argument on page like xx58 and kwark keeps quibbling with him about the definition of "disproportionately".
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 01 2016 02:47 GMT
#163
On September 01 2016 11:44 IgnE wrote:
Instead of those Barrin rules we should just enforce the charity rule, where one side must interpret the other side's arguments as charitably as possible. This xDaunt vs the world argument goes on for way too long when xDaunt clearly lays out his argument on page like xx58 and kwark keeps quibbling with him about the definition of "disproportionately".


The unfortunate reality is that most of the posters in that thread don't have the capacity to do this. It's a really sad state of affairs. I'm starting to wonder why I post in there because all of the liberal posters who actually could do it are either gone or rarely post anymore.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
September 01 2016 02:52 GMT
#164
Well yeah bro I have a job and when the thread explodes to 300 posts in between times that I check it the argument comes and passes before I can comment.
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 01 2016 03:42 GMT
#165
I'm more left than right, though I'd like to think that I can call out BS from the left when I see it. The thread often just goes off the deep end - people get convinced that they are right, and with something approximating a religious fervor they feel that any form of argument is justified precisely because they are convinced of their correctness. That often leads to the kind of discussion we saw with xDaunt against the world on a legal argument that he provided pretty good reasons for.

My rule is, if the discussion feels poisonous I leave. If they don't let it go then I tell them to fuck off. I'm not willing to have a discussion that is entirely voluntary with a hostile opposition, because there's nothing to be proven here. I'm here because I'm interested enough in the issues to read about and discuss them, and when I am not, I leave.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
September 01 2016 04:50 GMT
#166
But for the record I love xdaunt arguments and I enjoyed it until Kwark came in and mucked it up.
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
September 01 2016 11:26 GMT
#167
Once I get my clerkship, Ima start posting a lot more
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17959 Posts
September 13 2016 14:43 GMT
#168
On August 31 2016 19:33 LegalLord wrote:
This is nothing compared to Ukraine. Here we have some contentious disagreement, there it was just straight up hostility and misinformation from every side.

Americans have had trouble dealing with Ukrainian issues for decades.

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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6612 Posts
September 14 2016 00:27 GMT
#169
On September 14 2016 06:05 puerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 06:03 Plansix wrote:
I think Mohdoo is on point that if this was any other city but the impoverished City of Flint, right next to the ongoing dumpster fire that is Detroit, this would have been handled with much greater speed.

that is wrong.
black people have a cultural deficit and have noone else to blame than themselfs.
you need some blood (oh sorry i mean "culture") of romans in you to develop and maintain a public water system.

User was banned for this post.

Could I ask who did this? Surely this was a mocking post, or was that the reason?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 14 2016 00:28 GMT
#170
Even as a joke that's in pretty terrible taste.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44393 Posts
September 14 2016 00:43 GMT
#171
On September 14 2016 09:27 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 06:05 puerk wrote:
On September 14 2016 06:03 Plansix wrote:
I think Mohdoo is on point that if this was any other city but the impoverished City of Flint, right next to the ongoing dumpster fire that is Detroit, this would have been handled with much greater speed.

that is wrong.
black people have a cultural deficit and have noone else to blame than themselfs.
you need some blood (oh sorry i mean "culture") of romans in you to develop and maintain a public water system.

User was banned for this post.

Could I ask who did this? Surely this was a mocking post, or was that the reason?

Wasn't me but he does have a previous ban for referring to Iraqis as sand niggers and a few other mod items. He was already on super thin "just give me a reason" ice.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 14 2016 00:45 GMT
#172
I dunno, he seems like a jerk in general. Seems like more of the same, though I did find it odd to see him banned in the middle of a conversation I had with him.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6612 Posts
September 21 2016 00:30 GMT
#173
I look forward to DJT getting access to the nuclear codes if his first target is that thread.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 22 2016 21:05 GMT
#174
some people going overboard again; need some mod action stat!
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 21:10:45
September 22 2016 21:07 GMT
#175
The last few days have certainly been more spirited than usual for the politics thread.

Race has consistently proven to be a terrible topic for productive discussion in the US politics thread.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44393 Posts
September 22 2016 21:15 GMT
#176
For what it's worth, we have a Testie precedent here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=3400#67988
that suggests that perhaps if you're calling black people animals, whether you're going GGTemplar and calling them monkeys or going full xDaunt "BLM are vermin" that's a bit too far.

Also what the fuck is going on.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
September 22 2016 21:29 GMT
#177
The faultlines in our political discourse are oftentimes easiest to detect when displayed against the backdrop of civil unrest.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 22 2016 21:34 GMT
#178
Need more banhammers! I'll gladly carry one.
seriously though, at least some warnings are needed; and I reckon there'll be a ban or two once the mods have reviewed the cases.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44393 Posts
September 22 2016 21:42 GMT
#179
If I had my way that topic wouldn't have been unlocked. Perhaps the only good thing to come out of the Trump campaign though is that nobody can claim with a straight face that racism in America isn't a real problem anymore. We have new polls on it daily with 40% or so of the population affirming their racism.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 22 2016 21:48 GMT
#180
If I had my way, the topic would be unlocked, but i'd run a tight ship with a big banhammer :D
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
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