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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9643 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-03 16:04:46
October 03 2017 15:59 GMT
#1681
if the alternative is one throwaway post in lieu of the flyover pages, yes?

as is usually the case, someone has put it better than me-v
i’m just not the wordsmith i used to be.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 03 2017 16:02 GMT
#1682
At least short dismissive comments signal their emptiness with ease; lengthy posts that practically amount to "no" are worse in the sense that a reader has to waste more time in getting to the point
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 03 2017 16:23 GMT
#1683
The alternative is to do nothing. The others can do the flyover.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
October 03 2017 19:30 GMT
#1684
On October 04 2017 00:28 brian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 00:21 LegalLord wrote:
On October 03 2017 02:40 brian wrote:
i could, but i’m not here to complain about the posting standards of users, this was just mentioned as a no-go a few posts prior. but your example is a very clear garbage in, garbage out. and that kind of garbage is rife in the whole thread on both sides, so to pretend this particular example is exceptional is disingenuous.

eh, maybe rife is the wrong word. certainly the majority of posts are super quality. but the point still stands regardless, i think.

edit: sorry, don’t think i got the message right the first time around.

Well brain, while I think I get your point of "a shitpost for a shitpost" being your justification for that being not so bad, I might have to ask: is that the precedent that you really want to set? That if someone else is shitty then it's ok for everyone else to be? What about incorrectly perceived shit like the last tirade zlefin had when he got warned for responding to a "shitpost" from you?

I agree that that one post isn't anything special. But is that really the methodology you want to use to justify it? That there are other, vaguely specified, shitty posts to pay attention to so any one instance needs to be ignored? An instance here, an instance there and pretty soon you're talking mounds of manure. And if it's already a pile of shit, why not shit out a little more on top?

do you have an alternative? because asking everyone to just ignore shit like RiK is admirable, but not likely to work. we’ve lost countless dozens of pages due to responses to left field shitpost of similar caliber.

and i mean when my friend lost his marbles because i didn’t respond as he saw fit, the logical conclusion came and went without much commotion(well, additional commotion, anyway) i see no problem there.

-brain


There will be people in the world that you disagree with having the ability to express their thoughts in this country.

They may all have proof and evidence to construct their view of the world and you may still think that they are "shit".

But at the end of the day, you just have to learn to be more tolerant.

- Reality
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9643 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-04 00:25:11
October 03 2017 23:32 GMT
#1685
i only signed it to make fun of the typo, it’s something that happens in my daily life so i’ve developed a habit when it happens. :o
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 03 2017 23:49 GMT
#1686
who said it was a typo?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-04 17:57:08
October 04 2017 17:56 GMT
#1687
I'm no longer interested in taking over the work of moderating the politics thread (an offer i'd previously long made); at least not unless the mods apologize for their unethical behavior.

If people would like to go to a place with actually decent moderation, I'd still be willing to set one up.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44270 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-04 18:29:57
October 04 2017 18:29 GMT
#1688
No need to set one up, it already exists.

http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28879 Posts
October 04 2017 18:37 GMT
#1689
holy shit I can't believe the last post is from 2016. I thought STIMEY died like a decade ago.

To be fair, I actually think we accommodated many of his moderation policy wishes posthumously. And he was hilarious, part genius part insane.
Moderator
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44270 Posts
October 04 2017 18:44 GMT
#1690
Lol. And it's complaining about how unfair the justice system is because apparently everyone drives drunk and it's not a big deal but the cops are totally unreasonable about it.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 04 2017 18:49 GMT
#1691
On October 05 2017 03:37 Liquid`Drone wrote:
holy shit I can't believe the last post is from 2016. I thought STIMEY died like a decade ago.

To be fair, I actually think we accommodated many of his moderation policy wishes posthumously. And he was hilarious, part genius part insane.

He agrees :
http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/These-days-TL-is-moderated-pretty-much-how-I-was-asking-td7572627.html
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 04 2017 21:14 GMT
#1692
What were his moderation policy wishes?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28879 Posts
October 04 2017 21:25 GMT
#1693
Stuff like more transparency, reasons given for bans, a system of different ban lengths.. Back in the early days of TL, if you were banned, it was permanent, it was at the whim of the moderator who did it, frequently with reasons like 'you suck, idiot'. Stimey was banned after a moderator flamed him and he retorted with creating a thread called something like FUCK YOU moderator X. Then he made several new accounts, some of them lasting for pretty long periods of time. We kinda had a rule that if you were banned, it was okay for you to create a new account, as long as you didn't do the stuff that got you banned in the first place you'd be allowed to keep posting. But he argued that it was far too arbitrary and that reform was unlikely because people weren't actually informed of what their transgressions were.

But then he kinda made these points in a really aloof stoner&strong psychedelics/philosophy major kind of way that was pretty confusing to many. He was a really divisive figure, people pretty much either loved or hated him - personally I was in the love camp.

Particularly because of gems like, replying to 'Stimey, my point is I've never once seen you take a piece of well though-out criticism as such, and don't pretend that there haven't been any.'
"who the fuck cares what you saw or never saw? i've never seen you take a dump. should i conclude that you are full of shit? "
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 04 2017 21:30 GMT
#1694
That last line is golden.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 04 2017 21:53 GMT
#1695
On October 05 2017 06:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Stuff like more transparency, reasons given for bans, a system of different ban lengths.. Back in the early days of TL, if you were banned, it was permanent, it was at the whim of the moderator who did it, frequently with reasons like 'you suck, idiot'. Stimey was banned after a moderator flamed him and he retorted with creating a thread called something like FUCK YOU moderator X. Then he made several new accounts, some of them lasting for pretty long periods of time. We kinda had a rule that if you were banned, it was okay for you to create a new account, as long as you didn't do the stuff that got you banned in the first place you'd be allowed to keep posting. But he argued that it was far too arbitrary and that reform was unlikely because people weren't actually informed of what their transgressions were.

But then he kinda made these points in a really aloof stoner&strong psychedelics/philosophy major kind of way that was pretty confusing to many. He was a really divisive figure, people pretty much either loved or hated him - personally I was in the love camp.

Particularly because of gems like, replying to 'Stimey, my point is I've never once seen you take a piece of well though-out criticism as such, and don't pretend that there haven't been any.'
"who the fuck cares what you saw or never saw? i've never seen you take a dump. should i conclude that you are full of shit? "

sounds like a great time to moderate in
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9643 Posts
October 04 2017 22:30 GMT
#1696
back then being a mod was the coolest thing in my book for sure.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
October 05 2017 00:27 GMT
#1697
Unfortunately now it is pretty tedious. Love it
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 05 2017 01:45 GMT
#1698
On October 05 2017 07:30 brian wrote:
back then being a mod was the coolest thing in my book for sure.

For sure and being able to action anyway you like is pretty nice. While the old system has a lot of issues, it has its merits as well.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37107 Posts
October 05 2017 07:52 GMT
#1699
Huh... I had forgotten about Stimey. Of course, I wasn't a part of staff back then but still... Good times
Also, Drone, your post was hilarious. Two thumbs up.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
October 05 2017 17:35 GMT
#1700
I miss JD. He was a worthy adversary.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
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