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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23294 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-15 14:04:35
June 15 2019 14:03 GMT
#4741
On June 15 2019 22:59 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Anyway, enjoy your weekend everyone.


You too, I'll be done in this thread for at least a month in appreciation of everyone's patience.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4823 Posts
June 27 2019 03:31 GMT
#4742
Aside from concerns over particular posts, I would like to thank the moderators for allowing the thread to go into LR mode during debates. I'm pretty sure there are some out there that grumble at it, but I appreciate that posting standards can be temporarily changed for particular events. I know that at least us conservatives are enjoying it.

Please allow it to continue (tomorrow's next and then the very end of July after that).
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 18:03:24
June 28 2019 17:57 GMT
#4743
Is there any particular excample or area in which you think moderation standards were changed?

There is utterly no reason why a temporary LR mode during live debates and suchlike shouldn't follow moderation standards at all.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4823 Posts
June 29 2019 03:58 GMT
#4744
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.

I think a few years ago during debates some people were griping that quality decreased. There is a lot more spam-like posting. I didn't say there should be no standards, but I wanted to thank the mods because I know not everyone likes reading (or having to skip) pages of context-less reaction posts. It's sort of like the thread on election night-- it's less cerebral .
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
June 29 2019 17:31 GMT
#4745
You wrote that posting standards were temporarily changed. I ask you to point to an example of such.

What is it that you do not understand?.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18048 Posts
June 29 2019 18:06 GMT
#4746
On June 30 2019 02:31 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
You wrote that posting standards were temporarily changed. I ask you to point to an example of such.

What is it that you do not understand?.

What is your problem? The thread exploded, mainly with one-liners that didn't make any sense if you weren't watching the debate. That kinda non-informative post is generally frowned upon in the thread and can net you a warning... make enough of them and you get a ban. As opposed to in the live reporting threads for when tournaments are on. All that was said, was that he enjoyed that people were allowed to make this type of one-liner. Which makes sense. Also to me, and I didn't watch either of the debates, saw 200 new posts and didn't really understand any of it. But I for one didn't really care. I just skipped to the end of it...

Anyway, there's really no need to get all aggressive about it.

Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 18:57:17
June 29 2019 18:55 GMT
#4747
Introvert wrote that he is not sure he understands what I was asking.
So I broke down my single sentence to two separate sentences.

Then as I am just puzzled that there was something he didn't understand so I asked.
What aggression can you see in this?

I didn't read the thread at that time so I have no idea what he is referring to.
Thread explodes every now and then; am I supposed to read it each and everytime?
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4823 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 19:57:23
June 29 2019 19:56 GMT
#4748
On June 30 2019 02:31 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
You wrote that posting standards were temporarily changed. I ask you to point to an example of such.

What is it that you do not understand?.


Acrofales has it. Maybe I don't know the moderation standards as well I as I think I do, but most of the posts made during the debates wouldn't be allowed in the thread normally. Nowadays if you post a seemingly self-explanatory tweet you can get a warning if you don't preface it first.

Examples of probably-not-allowed-in-normal-contexts: most of this page and the one after it.

And perhaps you don't intend it, but your posts here are coming off as strangely aggressive.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 22:58:45
June 29 2019 20:53 GMT
#4749
See, it would be easy to point to an example, and now you have done it. Now you can also continue and tell us what you didn't understand. Rather than xyz person has got it.

Btw, I have no context for whatever danglars just wrote. Whatever it is, it's typical of the now rather laxer US Pol moderating standards towards those who post like danglars and his ilk, possibly becuase everytime moderation is enforced consistently, they complain that they are unfairly targeted for "bias".
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23294 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 23:27:44
June 29 2019 23:14 GMT
#4750
I got 2 weeks left lol
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
June 30 2019 22:10 GMT
#4751
You seem to be posting in the thread unless I am mistaken?
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-05 16:29:48
July 05 2019 16:29 GMT
#4752
Ignoring the contents of the video for now, isn't this post by Destructicon, who in his favour, hasn't posted in the thread before + Show Spoiler +
On July 05 2019 08:14 Destructicon wrote:
You don't know anything about the people coming to your country, it seems prudent to, at the very least background check them in some capacity. And if they've crossed illegally you have even more reason to detain them while you check.

I don't get how you could consider these people trustworthy when the very first thing they did was enter illegally.

The separation is pretty awful for the legit families that are crossing, they should indeed be detained together while being checked.

But that doesn't detract from my previous points.

You don't know the people coming in, they could just as well be criminals as they are refugees or migrants. With them crossing illegally you have even more reason to detain them and check their background.

Also if you want to play on emotions, what about the families of the US citizens? What about those cases where people get killed because criminals did cross over?



Do you really want to say that its not common sense to at the very least check the people coming in to prevent cases like the above from happening?

Strong borders makes sense.

against the thread note, namely : NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
July 08 2019 18:06 GMT
#4753
That rape video post by Biff was too much of a personal attack imo, but my god, the pearl clutching in response is almost as bad (for different reasons, of course).
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
July 08 2019 18:06 GMT
#4754
I've gotta say I'm not a big fan of dialogue being pushed that far into the gutter
RIP Meatloaf <3
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
July 08 2019 18:10 GMT
#4755
I agree, which is why it should be posted about in this thread and dealt with as soon as mods can.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12262 Posts
July 08 2019 18:25 GMT
#4756
On July 09 2019 03:06 farvacola wrote:
That rape video post by Biff was too much of a personal attack imo, but my god, the pearl clutching in response is almost as bad (for different reasons, of course).


It's amazing to me how much reactionaries love to be victims. Any other context we'd have bootstraps and personal responsibility, but here it's about them so all the sociological analysis and the mob mentality talk comes flooding in.
No will to live, no wish to die
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
July 08 2019 18:36 GMT
#4757
wanting the rules to be different does not rule out wanting the rules to be applied fairly
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13984 Posts
July 08 2019 21:35 GMT
#4758
Jeez I didn't realize objecting to saying that you support child rape was pearl clutching farv.

Its good to see just how much people hate other people in the thread. "team evil" "he'd support child rape" "he'd support the holocaust" But no they are the ones in the moral high ground you see they have the correct ideas.

I'm sure the mods will get to the report when they wake up and action him properly. No one wants the thread to degrade that far. If biff is allowed this xdaunt is perfectly in line with saying that people who support open borders (indirectly or not) support the same rape and murder that human traffickers are encouraged by their opinions. Shit will go downhill even from there fast and no one wants that
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 08 2019 21:52 GMT
#4759
On July 09 2019 06:35 Sermokala wrote:
Jeez I didn't realize objecting to saying that you support child rape was pearl clutching farv.

Its good to see just how much people hate other people in the thread. "team evil" "he'd support child rape" "he'd support the holocaust" But no they are the ones in the moral high ground you see they have the correct ideas.

I'm sure the mods will get to the report when they wake up and action him properly. No one wants the thread to degrade that far. If biff is allowed this xdaunt is perfectly in line with saying that people who support open borders (indirectly or not) support the same rape and murder that human traffickers are encouraged by their opinions. Shit will go downhill even from there fast and no one wants that

Let's not delude ourselves. I'd get banned if I said anything approaching what Biff said.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11552 Posts
July 08 2019 21:56 GMT
#4760
Poor conservatives, always so horribly oppressed by the evil leftist elite.
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