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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 28 2019 01:42 GMT
#32041
“Want a better life through asylum.” The Asylum Process: Your portal to a better life.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42957 Posts
June 28 2019 01:45 GMT
#32042
On June 28 2019 10:42 Danglars wrote:
“Want a better life through asylum.” The Asylum Process: Your portal to a better life.

It's certainly not the best way of expressing "want to avoid a much worse life of persecution and violence through asylum". Asylum is meant to be people who are forced out of their homes, not encouraged in to ours.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15712 Posts
June 28 2019 01:45 GMT
#32043
I don't like these justifications. If someone wants a better life, that would mean millions of people all around the world should request asylum. We need to be denying some people above some threshold
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4818 Posts
June 28 2019 01:46 GMT
#32044
I had my concerns about Biden's energy, but I didn't think it'd be this obvious. Can he go the whole way?
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8998 Posts
June 28 2019 01:46 GMT
#32045
Biden is rambling. He's done after 2-3 more "debates".
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 28 2019 01:47 GMT
#32046
Like I said, Democrats have a pro-open borders policy problem.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4818 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 01:48:52
June 28 2019 01:48 GMT
#32047
On June 28 2019 10:47 xDaunt wrote:
Like I said, Democrats have a pro-open borders policy problem.


did you catch the moderator calling the 3 million "Americans." This "decriminalize the border" thing is the new euphemism.

it could have just been a slip up, but the way he's been going...
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42957 Posts
June 28 2019 01:49 GMT
#32048
On June 28 2019 10:47 xDaunt wrote:
Like I said, Democrats have a pro-open borders policy problem.

They're not pro-open borders. They're just anti inhumane camps. This isn't an issue with two extreme positions and no middle ground.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12262 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 01:52:04
June 28 2019 01:50 GMT
#32049
I wish I lived in the world in xDaunt's head sometimes. Conservatives being persecuted for their bigoted opinions, a major party in the most important country in the world being for open borders... sounds rad.
No will to live, no wish to die
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15712 Posts
June 28 2019 01:52 GMT
#32050
On June 28 2019 10:49 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 10:47 xDaunt wrote:
Like I said, Democrats have a pro-open borders policy problem.

They're not pro-open borders. They're just anti inhumane camps. This isn't an issue with two extreme positions and no middle ground.

They are saying if you show up and say "my life is really bad back home", they can stay, at least for a while. Then what? Deported later? Depending on what criteria? I am hearing nothing about who gets denied. Does anyone get denied?
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4818 Posts
June 28 2019 01:52 GMT
#32051
Kamala is much better when she has a short script. She gets worse then more she has to improvise.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 28 2019 01:53 GMT
#32052
Decriminalizing illegal immigration is an open borders policy. There's no way around it.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8998 Posts
June 28 2019 01:55 GMT
#32053
Is decriminalizing marijuana an open drug policy?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 28 2019 01:55 GMT
#32054
On June 28 2019 10:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Biden is rambling. He's done after 2-3 more "debates".


I think his most recent answer was good though. He was off before that.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15712 Posts
June 28 2019 01:57 GMT
#32055
Harris and buttiegig are having absolutely amazing nights. Biden suffering a lot. Bernie feels completely irrelevant.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42957 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 02:05:47
June 28 2019 01:58 GMT
#32056
On June 28 2019 10:52 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 10:49 KwarK wrote:
On June 28 2019 10:47 xDaunt wrote:
Like I said, Democrats have a pro-open borders policy problem.

They're not pro-open borders. They're just anti inhumane camps. This isn't an issue with two extreme positions and no middle ground.

They are saying if you show up and say "my life is really bad back home", they can stay, at least for a while. Then what? Deported later? Depending on what criteria? I am hearing nothing about who gets denied. Does anyone get denied?

A significant majority denied. Seeking asylum is really hard. The problem is there are very few asylum judges and the system is massively backlogged. If they actually had a working system it would be a case of showing up, making your case at the port of entry, then getting returned back to the other side of the border with your suitcase. Instead we have people showing up and being put on a five year waitlist before kicking them back out.

The nationality most commonly approved for asylum is Chinese fleeing religious persecution because they get a lot of help making their claims from churches. The gov doesn't provide any representation for asylum hearings and the judges have almost no time per case. When people think asylum seeker they should be thinking Chinese Christian fleeing religious persecution in PRC, not Mexican, but the biases are pretty entrenched.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
June 28 2019 01:59 GMT
#32057
On June 28 2019 10:53 xDaunt wrote:
Decriminalizing illegal immigration is an open borders policy. There's no way around it.

?? The same way speeding not being criminal means that it's totally ok to drive 85 on a 50 road?
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 28 2019 02:00 GMT
#32058
On June 28 2019 10:59 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 10:53 xDaunt wrote:
Decriminalizing illegal immigration is an open borders policy. There's no way around it.

?? The same way speeding not being criminal means that it's totally ok to drive 85 on a 50 road?

Lol, speeding offenses are criminal offenses.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
June 28 2019 02:03 GMT
#32059
Do white people feel safer when they see a cop like Buttigieg said?

Also Buttigieg is going to get an anomalous amount of searches related to spelling his name right, not political interest.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 28 2019 02:03 GMT
#32060
I really hope that Swalwell lasts a long time. The dude is just going to repeatedly torpedo all of the viable candidates with his utter stupidity.
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