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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42481 Posts
June 28 2019 02:04 GMT
#32061
On June 28 2019 11:03 GreenHorizons wrote:
Do white people feel safer when they see a cop like Buttigieg said?

Also Buttigieg is going to get an anomalous amount of searches related to spelling his name right, not political interest.

In the UK maybe.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8970 Posts
June 28 2019 02:04 GMT
#32062
Fucking reparations. If anyone wants the best way to handle it, PM me and I'll explain the best way possible for it to happen.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15554 Posts
June 28 2019 02:05 GMT
#32063
Holy shit Harris just went for the throat. Wow.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 28 2019 02:06 GMT
#32064
On June 28 2019 11:05 Mohdoo wrote:
Holy shit Harris just went for the throat. Wow.

Haha, the look on Biden's face is priceless.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23094 Posts
June 28 2019 02:07 GMT
#32065
On June 28 2019 11:05 Mohdoo wrote:
Holy shit Harris just went for the throat. Wow.


Biden came back at her with the Prosecutor line that didn't go over well in the hall but this might be Biden fully stepping in it now.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8970 Posts
June 28 2019 02:07 GMT
#32066
Harris....she's a black woman for real. I've seen that kinda fucking pointed accusation.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15554 Posts
June 28 2019 02:08 GMT
#32067
Ohhhhh my god I can't believe this. Is it just that I've been drinking?? This is insane right?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 28 2019 02:08 GMT
#32068
On June 28 2019 11:07 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Harris....she's a black woman for real. I've seen that kinda fucking pointed accusation.

I'd be lying if I said that the thought never occurred to me.

God, she just ruined Biden's shit. Biden handled that horribly.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4719 Posts
June 28 2019 02:09 GMT
#32069
Biden is trying to answer, and knows what he wants to say, but can't say it. It hurts to watch. Harris knows this, which is prob why she kept pushing.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
June 28 2019 02:11 GMT
#32070
On June 28 2019 11:07 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Harris....she's a black woman for real. I've seen that kinda fucking pointed accusation.


What did she say?
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8970 Posts
June 28 2019 02:11 GMT
#32071
On June 28 2019 11:08 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 11:07 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Harris....she's a black woman for real. I've seen that kinda fucking pointed accusation.

I'd be lying if I said that the thought never occurred to me.

God, she just ruined Biden's shit. Biden handled that horribly.

PM me because I'm not sure where that first line was headed. I don't think anything bad of it, but I want to know! :D

And the second sentence is exactly what I was saying. She put baby in a corner.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15554 Posts
June 28 2019 02:11 GMT
#32072
On June 28 2019 11:09 Introvert wrote:
Biden is trying to answer, and knows what he wants to say, but can't say it. It hurts to watch. Harris knows this, which is prob why she kept pushing.

She smelled blood and just tore his arms off.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42481 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 02:15:55
June 28 2019 02:12 GMT
#32073
Mohdoo, I found some numbers on where successful asylum seekers come from if you're interested.

[image loading]

It looks like the odds aren't great for Hispanics, not when you're competing with people fleeing from the Congo.

Additionally if there are very few asylum seekers in red states. The odds of an asylum seeker taking your job in Kentucky are pretty negligible.

[image loading]
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12108 Posts
June 28 2019 02:14 GMT
#32074
What's with the constant cheers after all of Biden's tepid answers lol
No will to live, no wish to die
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8970 Posts
June 28 2019 02:14 GMT
#32075
On June 28 2019 11:11 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 11:07 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Harris....she's a black woman for real. I've seen that kinda fucking pointed accusation.


What did she say?

She pulled her race card basically.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15554 Posts
June 28 2019 02:14 GMT
#32076
On June 28 2019 11:12 KwarK wrote:
Mohdoo, I found some numbers on where successful asylum seekers come from if you're interested.

[image loading]

It looks like the odds aren't great for Hispanics, not when you're competing with people fleeing from the Congo.

I stand corrected then. Thanks for finding this and posting. Makes more sense now.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4719 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 02:15:14
June 28 2019 02:15 GMT
#32077
Biden finally waking up, he's always been feisty by temperament.

edit: this is from a few minutes ago.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23094 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 02:18:47
June 28 2019 02:18 GMT
#32078
On June 28 2019 11:14 Nebuchad wrote:
What's with the constant cheers after all of Biden's tepid answers lol


Democrat debate audiences are predominately party officials and loyalists not like a town hall audience of locals (besides that CNN one for Bernie stacked with political opponents) or whatever.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 02:19:13
June 28 2019 02:18 GMT
#32079
On June 28 2019 11:00 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 10:59 KlaCkoN wrote:
On June 28 2019 10:53 xDaunt wrote:
Decriminalizing illegal immigration is an open borders policy. There's no way around it.

?? The same way speeding not being criminal means that it's totally ok to drive 85 on a 50 road?

Lol, speeding offenses are criminal offenses.


I believe you and this is probably my mistake in reading Vox xd, but this link actually does make it seem like it's a civil offense at least in some cases?
https://www.wisemantriallaw.com/blog/2012/august/the-difference-between-a-civil-traffic-ticket-ci/
"Civil Traffic Ticket
A traffic ticket is simply a form given to a motorist, or pedestrian, whom the officer has observed or believed has violated a civil traffic law such as running a stop light, speeding, making an illegal turn, crossing the street illegally, or committing a nonmoving offense like a parking meter violation."

In any case … Deporting someone without valid visa status shouldn't require them to have a criminal record right? I don't understand why crossing the border needs to be criminal besides allowing for the camps.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42481 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 02:25:09
June 28 2019 02:24 GMT
#32080
On June 28 2019 11:14 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 11:12 KwarK wrote:
Mohdoo, I found some numbers on where successful asylum seekers come from if you're interested.

[image loading]

It looks like the odds aren't great for Hispanics, not when you're competing with people fleeing from the Congo.

I stand corrected then. Thanks for finding this and posting. Makes more sense now.

The problem is the waitlist. They have a right to have their case heard and they have a right to be safe from what they're fleeing until it has been heard. If you're an Afghan interpreter who was targeted for collaboration with NATO forces then it's no good waiting in Afghanistan for years while they get to your case. But once you get your hearing it's really hard to get approved so most get sent back. You need to have a credible fear of persecution, not just a reasonable fear. A reasonable fear would be "a lot of people who worked with NATO forces are getting killed and I worked with NATO forces". That's not enough. A credible fear is "they sent me death threats and then they attacked my home, raped and killed my wife, and tortured me for weeks, please note the scars on my hands from the power tools".

I don't think anyone reasonable would look at specific asylum cases and think that the person is abusing the system. What everyone is unhappy about is either the asylum waitlist being used as a loophole to buy time or just immigration in general and they've confused asylum seekers with illegal immigrants.
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