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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 18 2019 17:29 GMT
#4481
On April 18 2019 20:25 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 18:46 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Nothingburger Nothingburger Nothingburger

I know TL don't moderate the truth, but surely at some point, it must be against good conversation to insist something repeatedly without evidence, simply writing "I already wrote that" repeatedly instead.

Care to elaborate?

I thought I was being rather obvious. If it isn't, please refer to previous posts as I have already written that before.

I have posted a ton of evidence on this points. I daresay that I have posted far more elaborations.

I'm not going to repeat it every 20 pages for the cheap seats. People showed no desire to interact on a factual basis.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
April 18 2019 18:24 GMT
#4482
On April 19 2019 02:29 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 20:25 Seeker wrote:
On April 18 2019 18:46 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Nothingburger Nothingburger Nothingburger

I know TL don't moderate the truth, but surely at some point, it must be against good conversation to insist something repeatedly without evidence, simply writing "I already wrote that" repeatedly instead.

Care to elaborate?

I thought I was being rather obvious. If it isn't, please refer to previous posts as I have already written that before.

I have posted a ton of evidence on this points. I daresay that I have posted far more elaborations.

I'm not going to repeat it every 20 pages for the cheap seats. People showed no desire to interact on a factual basis.

I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9616 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-18 19:13:26
April 18 2019 18:55 GMT
#4483
must be the lack of subject verb agreement in his writing. i find poor grammar is easily misunderstood.


/passive aggressive sarcasm


but he’s referring to xDaunt, not that i agree or disagree with the criticism. he often refers to past arguments he has made without actually (re?)making the arguments. though personally i totally understand why. i’m not sure that it ties into lying per se.

i think the post you just quoted was an attempt at doing exactly the same thing, and having left you in confusion is basically the point. though xD has recently (i mean it has probably been several months) done everyone the favor of linking to his previous posts, which i find to be the best of all possible outcomes. so i guess i’m taking this opportunity to say hey thanks, it’s appreciated.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8960 Posts
April 19 2019 02:54 GMT
#4484
I understand why Daunt was temped, but I don't agree with it. While it was a bit emotional, he should have been warned to refrain from such wording in the future, regardless of past history. This is an intense discussion and things will be said. I'm not a fan of his politically, but I do want to hear what he has to say.

Guess I'll have to wait two days.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 19 2019 04:01 GMT
#4485
We’ll see if Biff earns himself a pairing ban for calling him the TL version of Sarah Sanders and questioning why he even comes here to discuss.

Unless that’s the sort of taunts that fly nowadays, I hardly know.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4682 Posts
April 19 2019 04:44 GMT
#4486
On April 19 2019 13:01 Danglars wrote:
We’ll see if Biff earns himself a pairing ban for calling him the TL version of Sarah Sanders and questioning why he even comes here to discuss.

Unless that’s the sort of taunts that fly nowadays, I hardly know.


That post was pretty tame considering what's been going around all day. In fact, even by itself it was fine.

Pair it with the post he was responding to and it makes even less sense.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 19 2019 05:07 GMT
#4487
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 19 2019 05:30 GMT
#4488
On April 19 2019 14:07 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2019 13:01 Danglars wrote:
We’ll see if Biff earns himself a pairing ban for calling him the TL version of Sarah Sanders and questioning why he even comes here to discuss.

Unless that’s the sort of taunts that fly nowadays, I hardly know.


Thank you for clearing up the whole passive aggressive talk of the last couple of pages with a extremely dead on post.

The normal non passive aggressive way of saying what you said would be. "I think Biff should also be banned for his role in the exchange."

Not sure why you feel the need to communicate so passive aggressively but please just stop. It is so childish and annoying if you have something to say, say it. Otherwise go away.

I took the active step of reporting the post. Calm your tatas.

On April 19 2019 13:44 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2019 13:01 Danglars wrote:
We’ll see if Biff earns himself a pairing ban for calling him the TL version of Sarah Sanders and questioning why he even comes here to discuss.

Unless that’s the sort of taunts that fly nowadays, I hardly know.


That post was pretty tame considering what's been going around all day. In fact, even by itself it was fine.

Pair it with the post he was responding to and it makes even less sense.

Ban/warn both and you've got a pretty low standard for moderation action, but a consistent one.
Skip doing anything to both, and it's basically what the day was.
Do one but not another and take an editorial stance on the political scene.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 19 2019 05:42 GMT
#4489
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5278 Posts
April 19 2019 07:30 GMT
#4490
"I think Biff should also be banned for his role in the exchange."
that has a really good chance to be actioned, banned/warned, for back-seating, especially based on ones mod history.
passive aggressiveness gets the benefit of ambiguity thus can be somewhat overlooked.

the directness you're all craving for is incompatible with today's moderation standards.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7192 Posts
April 19 2019 12:52 GMT
#4491
On April 19 2019 16:30 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
"I think Biff should also be banned for his role in the exchange."
that has a really good chance to be actioned, banned/warned, for back-seating, especially based on ones mod history.
passive aggressiveness gets the benefit of ambiguity thus can be somewhat overlooked.

the directness you're all craving for is incompatible with today's moderation standards.


That's the problem, though.

If what you're saying deserves moderation when said directly its not being direct that's the issue.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 19 2019 14:33 GMT
#4492
Yeah xdaunts ban doesnt really make sense. At the very least its inconsistent moderation.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15469 Posts
April 19 2019 16:11 GMT
#4493
On April 19 2019 23:33 Doodsmack wrote:
Yeah xdaunts ban doesnt really make sense. At the very least its inconsistent moderation.


A simple glance at the state of the thread before and after people were unbanned makes it hard to disagree with the ban.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7858 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-19 16:19:25
April 19 2019 16:18 GMT
#4494
Oh Danglar is talking about me 🥰 I really would never post one liners telling Nettles to get fucking real or call xDaunt our Teamliquid Sarah Sanders like pet if the posts I was answering to were not such insane bullshit and such insults to our intelligence to start with.

Seriously though, this thread is shit again because people like Nettles or xDaunt come with absolutely no other intention than defending their side at any cost, no matter the facts.

It’s tiring, it’s sterile, it’s boring and it’s simply shit. And no one is interested in that crap.

This thread was MUCH better in the time of the megablog where those folks could « stick it to the liberals » between them and the few who were interested.

If your point is that the NYT says that Barr was spot on, or that clearly Mueller report demonstrates that Trump did absolutely nothing wrong should really go post on r/the_donald, to discuss with more like minded folks from within that post factual bubble of yours.

As for me I’d like to read from Plansix, Kwark, biology_major and other posters who happen to have some kind of intellectual integrity and don’t bend reality when it doesn’t go their way. I know it’s the new style of US politics, but thank you, we can do better here.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9132 Posts
April 19 2019 16:27 GMT
#4495
It’s tiring, it’s sterile, it’s boring and it’s simply shit. And no one is interested in that crap.


If it's so uninteresting why can't you (and all the other posters claiming xDaunt and Danglars come with nothing but bad intentions) just stop replying to their posts instead of complaining about the thread being full of xDaunt arguing with posters like you?
You're now breathing manually
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13816 Posts
April 19 2019 16:30 GMT
#4496
Biff shows clearly that he is he problem in the thread and not daunt. Everything he posted above is about antagonizing xdaunt until he gets banned. Everything he posted above is bathed in prejudged malice twords people he disagrees with shows his intent was to get daunt banned by baiting him.

I mean can anyone not see it as a clear flame bait manifesto?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9616 Posts
April 19 2019 16:33 GMT
#4497
like all things politics these days, a select few consistently see it as only either or, where perhaps the truth lies in both of them being wrong.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7858 Posts
April 19 2019 16:37 GMT
#4498
On April 20 2019 01:30 Sermokala wrote:
Biff shows clearly that he is he problem in the thread and not daunt. Everything he posted above is about antagonizing xdaunt until he gets banned. Everything he posted above is bathed in prejudged malice twords people he disagrees with shows his intent was to get daunt banned by baiting him.

I mean can anyone not see it as a clear flame bait manifesto?

Well I post like, once a week, and replied only once to xDaunt so I might be a real talent to turn the thread to shit by myself.

I am all for disagreeing. That’s even why we discuss. I don’t have problem with divergence of opinions. I have problem with ignoring facts altogether and treating this thread like a fucking courtroom where substance doesn’t matter one bit, and the purpose is to win. And yeah, that’s what xDaunt does, and yes, it turns this thread into liquid shit.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21525 Posts
April 19 2019 16:46 GMT
#4499
On April 20 2019 01:30 Sermokala wrote:
Biff shows clearly that he is he problem in the thread and not daunt. Everything he posted above is about antagonizing xdaunt until he gets banned. Everything he posted above is bathed in prejudged malice twords people he disagrees with shows his intent was to get daunt banned by baiting him.

I mean can anyone not see it as a clear flame bait manifesto?
Pretty much everything xDaunt was saying was directly refuted by Muellers report, which he was commenting on what out having read it by his own admission.

He got called out on that and went on a rant. While I think a temp ban was a bit heavy handed xDaunt should not have making the statements he did without having read the report himself.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18820 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-19 16:48:59
April 19 2019 16:48 GMT
#4500
FWIW, I don’t think you’re part of the problem Biff.

(However, I’m not sure there is a problem currently)
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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