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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8254 Posts
October 07 2018 19:08 GMT
#3961
On October 08 2018 03:10 Simberto wrote:
I think Doodsmack is talking about GreenHorizons blog.


My mistake
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
October 08 2018 15:51 GMT
#3962
On October 08 2018 02:41 Doodsmack wrote:
Just learned of the second politics thread from this one. Cant see how that's a good idea. Theres basically two threads serving the same purpose. If it was restricted to banned people that would make sense and would actually be kind of fun.


I don't see a problem. The Conservative posters mostly don't like the main thread and GH has abandoned it for various reasons. Now they have a space they can talk politics in that they find more comfortable. And it's pretty vigorous, so that's good.

It vastly accelerates echo chambering of course, but I think most people are past caring about that.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 08 2018 21:27 GMT
#3963
I don’t consider it an echo chamber at all. It just avoids the re-hashing of the same arguments over and over between the same people. The 400th argument about who makes up the Democratic Party isn’t a productive discussion.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
October 08 2018 23:09 GMT
#3964
On October 09 2018 00:51 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2018 02:41 Doodsmack wrote:
Just learned of the second politics thread from this one. Cant see how that's a good idea. Theres basically two threads serving the same purpose. If it was restricted to banned people that would make sense and would actually be kind of fun.


I don't see a problem. The Conservative posters mostly don't like the main thread and GH has abandoned it for various reasons. Now they have a space they can talk politics in that they find more comfortable. And it's pretty vigorous, so that's good.

It vastly accelerates echo chambering of course, but I think most people are past caring about that.


I think it's been made clear they prefer it. I don't think it's a good thing but if it's what they want, it is what it is.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
October 12 2018 21:32 GMT
#3965
Can Wegandi be somehow banned? He doesn’t participate in discussion, he is just a troll trying to provoke.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 12 2018 21:52 GMT
#3966
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43968 Posts
October 13 2018 02:16 GMT
#3967
Wegandi isn't a troll, he's a libertarian. A troll says dumb things just to stir shit. No matter how dumb you think Wegandi's posts are I have no doubt that he believes in them.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
October 13 2018 06:54 GMT
#3968
On October 13 2018 11:16 KwarK wrote:
Wegandi isn't a troll, he's a libertarian. A troll says dumb things just to stir shit. No matter how dumb you think Wegandi's posts are I have no doubt that he believes in them.

The global warming denial where he talks about the breeze of the wind and such had to have been purely provocative though.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 15 2018 15:29 GMT
#3969
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43968 Posts
October 15 2018 15:31 GMT
#3970
On October 16 2018 00:29 JimmiC wrote:
Could we get a IP check on MAGA MAN, he shows up out of no where and instantly starts a dumb fight. He does so seemingly knowing posters politics. Feels like an Alt, who's first 10 post on a gaming website are in the USpol thread?

Like "man sweet a hearthstone website with forums, hmmm I think I'll see if I can find a politics thread and start a fight!"

He's definitely a PBU. Just report him and wait.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 15 2018 17:38 GMT
#3971
I wish I could figure out which PBU he is. I can’t put my finger on it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 15 2018 18:54 GMT
#3972
STIMEY
Life?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 16 2018 00:30 GMT
#3973
On October 16 2018 00:29 JimmiC wrote:
a hearthstone website


May I correct you...this is a Starcraft site first and foremost
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22310 Posts
October 16 2018 00:34 GMT
#3974
On October 16 2018 09:30 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2018 00:29 JimmiC wrote:
a hearthstone website


May I correct you...this is a Starcraft site first and foremost
I'm going to take a wild guess and assume he was posting from the LiquidHearth page, which you can see by the user icon not being one of the SC units.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 16 2018 00:45 GMT
#3975
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 19 2018 22:26 GMT
#3976
On October 09 2018 00:51 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2018 02:41 Doodsmack wrote:
Just learned of the second politics thread from this one. Cant see how that's a good idea. Theres basically two threads serving the same purpose. If it was restricted to banned people that would make sense and would actually be kind of fun.


I don't see a problem. The Conservative posters mostly don't like the main thread and GH has abandoned it for various reasons. Now they have a space they can talk politics in that they find more comfortable. And it's pretty vigorous, so that's good.

It vastly accelerates echo chambering of course, but I think most people are past caring about that.


The echo chamber effect is real. It don't see the sense in having two threads for the same purpose, but I guess they figure the two sides can't coexist.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
October 19 2018 22:45 GMT
#3977
On October 20 2018 07:26 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2018 00:51 iamthedave wrote:
On October 08 2018 02:41 Doodsmack wrote:
Just learned of the second politics thread from this one. Cant see how that's a good idea. Theres basically two threads serving the same purpose. If it was restricted to banned people that would make sense and would actually be kind of fun.


I don't see a problem. The Conservative posters mostly don't like the main thread and GH has abandoned it for various reasons. Now they have a space they can talk politics in that they find more comfortable. And it's pretty vigorous, so that's good.

It vastly accelerates echo chambering of course, but I think most people are past caring about that.


The echo chamber effect is real. It don't see the sense in having two threads for the same purpose, but I guess they figure the two sides can't coexist.


I'm not stopping "the other side" from posting in the blog so it seems to be mostly a grassroots accommodation.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-20 06:41:27
October 20 2018 06:41 GMT
#3978
On October 20 2018 07:45 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2018 07:26 Doodsmack wrote:
On October 09 2018 00:51 iamthedave wrote:
On October 08 2018 02:41 Doodsmack wrote:
Just learned of the second politics thread from this one. Cant see how that's a good idea. Theres basically two threads serving the same purpose. If it was restricted to banned people that would make sense and would actually be kind of fun.


I don't see a problem. The Conservative posters mostly don't like the main thread and GH has abandoned it for various reasons. Now they have a space they can talk politics in that they find more comfortable. And it's pretty vigorous, so that's good.

It vastly accelerates echo chambering of course, but I think most people are past caring about that.


The echo chamber effect is real. It don't see the sense in having two threads for the same purpose, but I guess they figure the two sides can't coexist.


I'm not stopping "the other side" from posting in the blog so it seems to be mostly a grassroots accommodation.


It's a tread for those who have been banned or is otherwise unhappy with the regular thread.. Can't imagine why that would create an echo chamber. What's stopping the rest of us from posting in it is that we already have politics thread; you know the original one?

I can't quite fathom what this thread is suppose to do or why Seeker cleared it, but I admit I don't have any strong feelings towards having it removed either. Not like it's hurting me by simply existing or anything.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-20 06:51:13
October 20 2018 06:50 GMT
#3979
On October 20 2018 15:41 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2018 07:45 GreenHorizons wrote:
On October 20 2018 07:26 Doodsmack wrote:
On October 09 2018 00:51 iamthedave wrote:
On October 08 2018 02:41 Doodsmack wrote:
Just learned of the second politics thread from this one. Cant see how that's a good idea. Theres basically two threads serving the same purpose. If it was restricted to banned people that would make sense and would actually be kind of fun.


I don't see a problem. The Conservative posters mostly don't like the main thread and GH has abandoned it for various reasons. Now they have a space they can talk politics in that they find more comfortable. And it's pretty vigorous, so that's good.

It vastly accelerates echo chambering of course, but I think most people are past caring about that.


The echo chamber effect is real. It don't see the sense in having two threads for the same purpose, but I guess they figure the two sides can't coexist.


I'm not stopping "the other side" from posting in the blog so it seems to be mostly a grassroots accommodation.


It's a tread for those who have been banned or is otherwise unhappy with the regular thread.. Can't imagine why that would create an echo chamber. What's stopping the rest of us from posting in it is that we already have politics thread; you know the original one?

I can't quite fathom what this thread is suppose to do or why Seeker cleared it, but I admit I don't have any strong feelings towards having it removed either. Not like it's hurting me by simply existing or anything.


Outside of Democrats being less than impressive, what exactly is getting echo'd in the Blog?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
October 20 2018 10:00 GMT
#3980
The problem with the main thread is simple: most of the posters in there have been posting a long time, and they know each other well, and many of them don't like each other. The 'politics' part gets drowned out by the 'I hate x poster' part. That's what lead to the constant arguments and bannings. GH couldn't reliably post without getting into a fight with a couple of posters who don't like him (and vice versa), and the same runs true for several of the long term conservative posters.

The blog gives those people who can't get along in the main thread a place to post and chat about politics. But it isn't an echo chamber. It's just another space. There's less pushback against certain things, but there's been no fights either. Seems like a success to me so far.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
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