The restart is good and opens the thread up to more people. Thread specific bans also solves the “politics brings out the worst in people “ problem. I trust the mods won’t suddenly become evil overlords. Well not any more than they already are.

tofucake

Hyrule19048 Posts

March 20 2018 14:38 GMT

#2043

It won't be sudden. Those of us who are already evil overlords will ease the others into it over time.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

March 20 2018 14:45 GMT

#2044

You must kills whatever good remains in Shellshock first. Then the rest will fall.

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

March 20 2018 14:58 GMT

#2045

well, at least the mods let us get to 10k pages.

NewSunshine

United States5938 Posts

March 20 2018 15:37 GMT

#2046

I for one am excited by the prospect of subjective moderation. There have been a number of instances of late where the thread gets derailed by massive arguments that put me off from participating, but none of the posts explicitly broke any rules, so it clearly felt to me like an update was welcome, and I can tell the mods took their time in making the decision.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

March 20 2018 17:12 GMT

#2047

On March 21 2018 00:37 NewSunshine wrote:
I for one am excited by the prospect of subjective moderation. There have been a number of instances of late where the thread gets derailed by massive arguments that put me off from participating, but none of the posts explicitly broke any rules, so it clearly felt to me like an update was welcome, and I can tell the mods took their time in making the decision.

I second this. Everyone who uses the thread regularly is well intentioned, but far from perfect. I have no problem being called out(warned) for being back on my bullshit. It will hopefully keep arguments from escalating into rehashes of older arguments.

zlefin

United States7689 Posts

March 20 2018 17:44 GMT

#2048

I hope this new system works out and lasts. sometimes in the past there were attempts that lasted for awhile, but after a couple of months stopped being enforced.

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

March 20 2018 22:56 GMT

#2049

A fresh start. Hopefully this time there wouldn't be any spillover to the other pol threads.

IgnE

United States7681 Posts

March 21 2018 01:07 GMT

#2050

you guys are overrating domestication here. the real killer is boredom. ill take an interesting thread over polite russia loggorhea any day.

NewSunshine

United States5938 Posts

March 21 2018 01:39 GMT

#2051

On March 21 2018 10:07 IgnE wrote:
you guys are overrating domestication here. the real killer is boredom. ill take an interesting thread over polite russia loggorhea any day.

Interesting is fine, but being able to have a discussion is nice too.

xDaunt

United States17988 Posts

March 21 2018 03:34 GMT

#2052

On March 21 2018 10:07 IgnE wrote:
you guys are overrating domestication here. the real killer is boredom. ill take an interesting thread over polite russia loggorhea any day.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Plus, I really don't get how the new thread is going to be moderated any differently than the old one was. The moderation has always been very subjective. If there was an ever an objective standard that was universally applied, I sure as hell couldn't describe it. The inconsistency in moderation has been rampant.

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

March 21 2018 13:44 GMT

#2053

it feels like the new thread is starting off a little better than the old one left off, though we'll see how long that lasts.

zlefin

United States7689 Posts

March 21 2018 16:50 GMT

#2054

On March 21 2018 22:44 ticklishmusic wrote:
it feels like the new thread is starting off a little better than the old one left off, though we'll see how long that lasts.

aye, it always starts off better after one of these pushes. the question is whether they stick with it or not. (and to some extent everyone is also just extra careful after a change til the new system is tested).

on another note about the unclarity of the new system; consider the warning herein:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=12#221
while stealth, as usual, has multiple posts in the prior pages that also consist of nothing but a link to a twitter article.
such as
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=10#187
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=3#43

Danglars

United States12133 Posts

March 21 2018 17:00 GMT

#2055

Mods generally get away with it with the “this is our house” rule. I’m ok assuming this is forever baked in the cake.

For acting on straight tweets by regular users, this is a welcome change.

micronesia

United States24676 Posts

March 21 2018 17:01 GMT

#2056

If a mad bomber suddenly blows himself up, or an ongoing mass shooting is stopped, a stand-alone tweet announcing it is probably okay without discussion. However, a comment someone made at a press briefing needs to include discussion. When in doubt, posters should always add their own discussion to any tweets or articles that they bring in.

Aveng3r

United States2411 Posts

March 21 2018 17:21 GMT

#2057

I have never ever seen a mod receive a warning here before lol

as one of the few mods who still participate in the thread (maybe that will change) was CC not in on drafting the new guidelines?

Danglars

United States12133 Posts

March 21 2018 17:33 GMT

#2058

If Micronesia is serious about a dividing line between a report on breaking news and something like a press briefing, StealthBlue will cross it in the future. That’s when we’ll know if there’s a change with enforcing rules on the ban hammer class.

zlefin

United States7689 Posts

March 21 2018 17:45 GMT

#2059

ahha, looks like there is a change in enforcing rules (and/or it's a case they can't hide for the more cynical), as per http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=12#225
good to see.