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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 17:19:45
October 03 2012 17:19 GMT
#21
On October 04 2012 02:10 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote:
The post you got warned for ended
"Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"

The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.

You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.

I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.


Always so helpful. And this thread actually seemed to be making progress.

The chain of events that led to this point go as follows

Him: "I'm going to make a shitty post".
TL: "Don't make shitty posts".
Him: "I'm going to make a shitty topic in the general forum asking "Am I stupid to be offended by the warning caused by me making shitty posts?"".
TL: "Don't make shitty topics and yes, you are".
Him: "I see this as being the fault of someone other than me and now I'm really offended".
TL: "See previous response".
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
October 03 2012 17:20 GMT
#22
On October 04 2012 02:10 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote:
The post you got warned for ended
"Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"

The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.

You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.

I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.


Always so helpful. And this thread actually seemed to be making progress.

What about this part?
On October 04 2012 00:45 HanClan wrote:
I don't give a fuck who you are, but it seems like you are the dumb fuck who's not understanding the situation ^^

Yes, I did post a comment on the GSL predictions saying "First one to comment! Sad to see Nestea fail D:"

If doing so was wrong, you could have just said "Comments saying first is not allowed"
or those sorts of comments in my PM.

But instead of doing so, you guys chose to insult not only me but also my relatives including my grandmother and my family.

I don't know where you guys learned your manners but seems like the one who taught you guys(mostly like to be your parents) are full of shit ^^

"You were shitposting, got a warning for it and seem confused by the situation. Don't shitpost. Also don't make shitty topics"

Thanks KwarK. Seems like you are the real one who is fucking confused by the situation. Learn how to use better words than "Shitty" and "Stupid"


I guess that KwarK's post would fit under the OP's comment about Hammurabi's law then?
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 03 2012 17:25 GMT
#23
On October 04 2012 02:20 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 02:10 Ghanburighan wrote:
On October 04 2012 01:56 KwarK wrote:
The post you got warned for ended
"Am I just being stupid to feel offended?"

The answer was yes for then and doubly yes for now. A warning is no big deal, just an instruction not to do what you got warned for. For some reason (maybe stupidity, maybe some other deficiency on your part, maybe something else) you felt the need to post "first". Now I don't wish to speculate about why (maybe you're dumb?) but the why (dumb maybe?) doesn't really matter, you posted "first" and you got warned for it because it's a shitty post that we don't do on teamliquid.

You then felt the need for some reason (dropped on your head as a child?) to make a shitty topic in general forum asking if you were stupid for being offended by a standard warning message you got for making a shitty post. I then warned you for making such a shitty topic because you should have known better after you already got warned for shitposting but didn't know better for some reason (maybe foetal alcohol syndrome?). I also answered your question, although it was just my opinion and if you would like an official diagnosis of stupid then please consult a medical professional.

I would not like to hazard a guess at why you saw the need to make yet another topic as you may get offended by my speculation on the matter.


Always so helpful. And this thread actually seemed to be making progress.

What about this part?
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 00:45 HanClan wrote:
I don't give a fuck who you are, but it seems like you are the dumb fuck who's not understanding the situation ^^

Yes, I did post a comment on the GSL predictions saying "First one to comment! Sad to see Nestea fail D:"

If doing so was wrong, you could have just said "Comments saying first is not allowed"
or those sorts of comments in my PM.

But instead of doing so, you guys chose to insult not only me but also my relatives including my grandmother and my family.

I don't know where you guys learned your manners but seems like the one who taught you guys(mostly like to be your parents) are full of shit ^^

"You were shitposting, got a warning for it and seem confused by the situation. Don't shitpost. Also don't make shitty topics"

Thanks KwarK. Seems like you are the real one who is fucking confused by the situation. Learn how to use better words than "Shitty" and "Stupid"


I guess that KwarK's post would fit under the OP's comment about Hammurabi's law then?


To the T, even.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 18:52:09
October 03 2012 17:59 GMT
#24
To be honest I think you've rather gone about this the wrong way.

In regards to posting "first" that falls under Commandment #3
specifically:
Finally, do not post for the sake of posting. While it is sometimes acceptable to support another person's view point, doing so by adding "+1", or quoting while adding nothing at all, is not an appropriate post.

You'll note that the commandments are comprehensive, but not exhaustive and 'first' clearly falls under posting for the sake of posting. The fact that you feel the need the argue the point tells me you didn't really spend much time lurking to get the feel for how TL operates.

And to me that's largely the problem that you're running into here. TL has a much higher standard for posting content and it is far better to cautiously figure out how a forum's culture works rather than stomping around, appealing to
Hammurabi Code for justice, and the like.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 18:36:46
October 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#25
I take it back. That stock message blows.

Like really sucks. That is a shitty thing to send to potentially new users.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 18:48:41
October 03 2012 18:29 GMT
#26
Like you have a very small but legitimate point, but I have so much contempt for you personally from that one post that I can't imagine a single person caring.

In other words, when you're looking for sympathy or pity you shouldn't be so grossly offensive.
Coming back with "an eye for an eye" makes you look even less intelligent.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 20:27:44
October 03 2012 20:25 GMT
#27
lolol that was the only 'stock message' i contributed, i suppose the humor is outdated now, but LOOOOL all the same

cough cough, i mean yes. standard warning message. completely standard.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 20:47:13
October 03 2012 20:45 GMT
#28
I was going to ask if you wrote that but i didnt want it to sound offensive if I was wrong?
I appreciate the validation though.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
October 03 2012 21:19 GMT
#29
I kinda skipped through the image because I thought op would just be overreacting to something Kwark did and would be blowing it out of proportion. But now that I've gone back and reread that message, it really is pretty bad imo. To send something like that to the op who, only for the reason of putting "first" in his post got that message is pretty harsh. Had he posted without the "first", he likely would not have been warned. But he didn't just say "first", he also put in his thoughts on the matter (in few words though). Other people, including myself, only wish to write maybe a single sentence or two to express ourselves without feeling the need to write out a whole paragraph.

I'm not sure if FakeSteve is telling the truth, but if that is the actual stock message, change it. That's terrible.

In this matter though, op should not have been so harshly warned. But also op should not have retaliated in such a vicious matter by insulting and generalizing the mods in this thread. Like Gene said, op has a point, but his senseless arguing is clouding everyone's judgement and shifting their favorable views toward the mods.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44187 Posts
October 03 2012 21:22 GMT
#30
To clarify, the stock message was not sent by me and my involvement only began when he decided he needed to make a general forum topic to ask if he was stupid.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
October 03 2012 21:40 GMT
#31
Though I'm not familiar to your modding methods KwarK (people say you're mean lol), I suppose you could have worded your response a bit less offensively. I think that's the way you regularly mod though so w/e.
I will say that op should not have made that topic in general if he was so offended by the stock message (which is bad/offensive). Should have made it in website feedback complaining about the stock message. So I think your actions are pretty justified. Then op threw a fit and started insulting mods and people in this thread, which was even worse.

The only thing I think op has a point about is the stock message. It would have been clearer about that from the beginning if he didn't start shitting on everyone who disagreed with him.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 03 2012 21:55 GMT
#32
On October 04 2012 06:19 Epishade wrote:
I kinda skipped through the image because I thought op would just be overreacting to something Kwark did and would be blowing it out of proportion. But now that I've gone back and reread that message, it really is pretty bad imo. To send something like that to the op who, only for the reason of putting "first" in his post got that message is pretty harsh. Had he posted without the "first", he likely would not have been warned. But he didn't just say "first", he also put in his thoughts on the matter (in few words though). Other people, including myself, only wish to write maybe a single sentence or two to express ourselves without feeling the need to write out a whole paragraph.

I'm not sure if FakeSteve is telling the truth, but if that is the actual stock message, change it. That's terrible.

In this matter though, op should not have been so harshly warned. But also op should not have retaliated in such a vicious matter by insulting and generalizing the mods in this thread. Like Gene said, op has a point, but his senseless arguing is clouding everyone's judgement and shifting their favorable views toward the mods.


you're terrible
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 03 2012 22:22 GMT
#33
Hi FakeSteve and KwarK

I think a better warning message might be in order. I panic enough already when I get a new PM, my heart rate goes up by about 20(I tracked it). That's enough punishment without the all caps tirade.

That said, OP's way of approaching the issue was totally wrong.
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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
October 03 2012 22:45 GMT
#34
On October 04 2012 06:55 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 06:19 Epishade wrote:
I kinda skipped through the image because I thought op would just be overreacting to something Kwark did and would be blowing it out of proportion. But now that I've gone back and reread that message, it really is pretty bad imo. To send something like that to the op who, only for the reason of putting "first" in his post got that message is pretty harsh. Had he posted without the "first", he likely would not have been warned. But he didn't just say "first", he also put in his thoughts on the matter (in few words though). Other people, including myself, only wish to write maybe a single sentence or two to express ourselves without feeling the need to write out a whole paragraph.

I'm not sure if FakeSteve is telling the truth, but if that is the actual stock message, change it. That's terrible.

In this matter though, op should not have been so harshly warned. But also op should not have retaliated in such a vicious matter by insulting and generalizing the mods in this thread. Like Gene said, op has a point, but his senseless arguing is clouding everyone's judgement and shifting their favorable views toward the mods.


you're terrible


lol
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 03 2012 22:46 GMT
#35
On October 04 2012 06:40 Epishade wrote:
Though I'm not familiar to your modding methods KwarK (people say you're mean lol), I suppose you could have worded your response a bit less offensively. I think that's the way you regularly mod though so w/e.
I will say that op should not have made that topic in general if he was so offended by the stock message (which is bad/offensive). Should have made it in website feedback complaining about the stock message. So I think your actions are pretty justified. Then op threw a fit and started insulting mods and people in this thread, which was even worse.

The only thing I think op has a point about is the stock message. It would have been clearer about that from the beginning if he didn't start shitting on everyone who disagreed with him.

The context in which the warning was made was such that we were trying to curb a rise in memes and shitposting on ttl. In that context, the message makes sense because we really really don't want to have people posting 'first' - ever. Maybe the message is outdated now, there was a brief discussion yesterday about it and overhauling our stock warning messages and we'll see what happens with that.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 00:27:26
October 04 2012 00:26 GMT
#36
On October 04 2012 01:01 HanClan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 00:59 Kiante wrote:
if this site is so stupid and run by stupid people why are you still here? There are other places to get your stream list (twitch.tv, that stream aggregator thing that dude on reddit made i cant think of right now), and other places to find posts (reddit, gosugamers, 4chan). You posted first and got hit by the bot and now you've opened two thread about how mad you are? Lol?

also

"You were shitposting, got a warning for it and seem confused by the situation. Don't shitpost. Also don't make shitty topics"

Thanks KwarK. Seems like you are the real one who is fucking confused by the situation. Learn how to use better words than "Shitty" and "Stupid"



i mean come on, he didn't even say stupid.



Oh do you want me to put another screen shot where he says stupid?

I could let me do it right now for you^^

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Think once more bro

and maybe you didn't read well? "When the site itself is full of good posts and streams"

I said the site is good but the some people who run is not ^^



User was warned for this post



Hahaha, oh man. I'm sorry but that is just TOO HILARIOUS. Lol, man, I'm pretty sure that they didn't mean anything personal by it. Especially the bot which "threatened your family" and whatnot. Just shake it off would be my advice.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
October 04 2012 01:32 GMT
#37
On October 04 2012 05:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
lolol that was the only 'stock message' i contributed, i suppose the humor is outdated now, but LOOOOL all the same

cough cough, i mean yes. standard warning message. completely standard.

!!!! O_o;;

You still post?
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
October 04 2012 02:07 GMT
#38
On October 04 2012 10:32 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 05:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
lolol that was the only 'stock message' i contributed, i suppose the humor is outdated now, but LOOOOL all the same

cough cough, i mean yes. standard warning message. completely standard.

!!!! O_o;;

You still post?


On October 02 2012 07:17 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nuts that the 11th/12th place teams get $25,000 each for getting rolled


He still posts once in a while in the LoL subforum.
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SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
October 04 2012 05:05 GMT
#39
that's a terrible stock message, regardless of the context really
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 04 2012 05:35 GMT
#40
Kwark helped me realize I was being retarded back in 2010 when the Jaedong/Flash power outage thing happened, hopefully you will see the light as well.

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