On August 24 2011 16:44 IntoTheEmo wrote: Uh huh, no more R&S, Power rank and Final Edits?
It's because basically all the Finals Edits are BW related, don't you know? (And don't give me that bullcrap about Features->final edits. We all know there's a huge difference between being a dropdown tab and being a static, permanent sidebar.)
On August 24 2011 13:53 Chairman Ray wrote: What's the ranking under TLPD?
TLPD ranking based off of ELO for international/korea in SC2
On August 24 2011 13:53 TwoToneTerran wrote: Ah, so it'll get 2 days of being a link on the left sidebar then disappear? Oh well, I guess I kind of saw this transition slowly coming but atleast it's not totally gone.
It's not really a transition, its just a matter of removing as much static content from the right as possible and replacing it with useful tools and links. I guess the exception is the SC2 ranking that is there atm, but don't read into this as SC2 ranking replacing SC1 ranking - we've been looking for a way to fit in the SC2 ranking for a while now, and it doesn't have any attached discussion threads.
Don't do this. I understand you had to transition out of BW eventually and while it does make me bitter it's fine. But you're Team Liquid, don't sit there and run PR on it like you're Blizzard or something, at least give us that much respect.
Seconded.
Like everyone said, the majority of TL is with sc2, and the majority of foreign players are with sc2 because of money and opportunity. That's just going where the money is and that's fine. But really..
but don't read into this as SC2 ranking replacing SC1 ranking
-.- That's exactly what this is. And I'm cool with that, just don't try to tiptoe around the issue and hope we don't notice...
So now the left column is twice as long as the right. Looks terrible. I propose making the facebook, twitter, and youtube links into a box with the TLAF button. Then add BW power rankings below it to make the right column longer.
Alternatively you could remove the Replays section on the left column to help ensure that no BW exists on the front page as that would inconvenience the many who mistake them for SC2 replays and ask how to watch them.
Also no way to search BW liquidpedia but that's in line with all the other decisions
The SC2 ELO rankings are completely useless. They're not a substitute for either sc2 or bw power rankings. Remove it, even if there's no power ranking to take its place.
On August 24 2011 13:53 TwoToneTerran wrote: Ah, so it'll get 2 days of being a link on the left sidebar then disappear? Oh well, I guess I kind of saw this transition slowly coming but atleast it's not totally gone.
It's not really a transition, its just a matter of removing as much static content from the right as possible and replacing it with useful tools and links. I guess the exception is the SC2 ranking that is there atm, but don't read into this as SC2 ranking replacing SC1 ranking - we've been looking for a way to fit in the SC2 ranking for a while now, and it doesn't have any attached discussion threads.
I understand that SC2 needed a ranking, but would it be too troublesome to add just the same space underneath for BW?
This just makes me so sad that a site which was born from BW has gotten rid of a tradition and great fixture in BW. (and yes I know it will still exist, technically. but honestly how many people are going to go to Features -> PR))
On August 24 2011 17:14 salito wrote: The SC2 ELO rankings are completely useless. They're not a substitute for either sc2 or bw power rankings. Remove it, even if there's no power ranking to take its place.
Also, I still don't understand why Koreans are segregated into their own column. In MaNa's profile, it says "ELO ranking #4". That's not 1st place, that's 4th place. Are the achievements of Koreans just not the same as the foreigners or what. I understand that TL is the foreign HQ for sc2 but still... It looks ridiculous to have rank 1-5, then right next to it, rank 1-5 again. I mean it's the same game and they all play each other. Why not just a 1-10 ranking?
Or maybe I'm missing something. I don't really follow sc2 proscene so sorry if it's something obvious I'm not getting.
Removing it from the frontpage is really a HUGE difference. I simply can't agree with the "hey, it's still there - nothing changed"-attitude.
And then implementing the liquipedia feature without adding the option for searching the BW-liquipedia makes me kind of angry. This feature is awesome, but come on - why only SC2?
I can understand that it was time for a SC2 Powerrank or something like this - times have changed But not implementing the option for BW-liquipedia search - i'm speechless. Such a cool feature - i really love it - but only sc2 is not fair i guess?
As I already said in the other feedback thread, I think these are excellent changes relevant to the interest of a large majority on the site.
Replacing the BW power rank with its SC2 equivalent is obvious given the userbase for each, grouping the calendar and upcoming events together makes sense, and having both Liquipedia II and TLPD available with 1 click from anywhere is brilliant.
I think Teamliquid should at least allow the default TLPD to be whatever you'd like (like BW Korea), and then the mini power rank below that would change to that category.
On August 24 2011 17:29 moopie wrote: Hey, what do you know.. the sc2 kids who don't give two shits about bw like these changes. Didn't see that coming.
On August 24 2011 17:14 salito wrote: Alternatively you could remove the Replays section on the left column to help ensure that no BW exists on the front page as that would inconvenience the many who mistake them for SC2 replays and ask how to watch them.
Also no way to search BW liquidpedia but that's in line with all the other decisions
When I was looking at the changes, I was thinking what else could change and it occurred to me also that the Replay section may go. Either completely or it will get be merged into the BW section as a sub forum. Who knows.
And there definitely needs to be an option to select BW for liquipedia. It would be great if we could somehow set it both TLPD and Liquipedia to just BW or SC2 for those who don't use the other.
I was bored so I hacked together some more stuff. Now it changes the default TLPD search to BW, moves the BW forums above the sc2 forums, and changes the liquipedia search to the BW liquipedia.
I was bored so I hacked together some more stuff. Now it changes the default TLPD search to BW, moves the BW forums above the sc2 forums, and changes the liquipedia search to the BW liquipedia.
On August 24 2011 17:29 moopie wrote: Hey, what do you know.. the sc2 kids who don't give two shits about bw like these changes. Didn't see that coming.
-_-'
I like the changes, and I gave two shits about BW.
I was bored so I hacked together some more stuff. Now it changes the default TLPD search to BW, moves the BW forums above the sc2 forums, and changes the liquipedia search to the BW liquipedia.
I would like to try that out, but the link gives me a "connection has timed out"? :/
I was bored so I hacked together some more stuff. Now it changes the default TLPD search to BW, moves the BW forums above the sc2 forums, and changes the liquipedia search to the BW liquipedia.
I would like to try that out, but the link gives me a "connection has timed out"? :/
I was bored so I hacked together some more stuff. Now it changes the default TLPD search to BW, moves the BW forums above the sc2 forums, and changes the liquipedia search to the BW liquipedia.
I would like to try that out, but the link gives me a "connection has timed out"? :/
I was bored so I hacked together some more stuff. Now it changes the default TLPD search to BW, moves the BW forums above the sc2 forums, and changes the liquipedia search to the BW liquipedia.
I would like to try that out, but the link gives me a "connection has timed out"? :/