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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
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Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
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quickshot10101
Canada54 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19245 Posts
On December 08 2010 01:19 Chill wrote: If you restream GSL, your stream on TL will be disabled. Sooo...sort of a weird situation, but what if I'm streaming something from one of my monitors, and have GSL open on another, so just the sound gets restreamed...? | ||
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Scrimpton
United Kingdom465 Posts
On January 13 2011 22:59 quickshot10101 wrote: its sad, there are SOO MANY PEOPLE unable to use/watch the official gsl stream free or paid. I think restreams atm help keep gsl alive. I really hope the gsl either adds native vlc support (though u can get it to work on vlc allrdy if u know the tricks) or just improve there system they allrdy have. cause atm its flawed Sorry but that's just so off base it actually made me slightly embarrassed for you. Gotta say, I've been subscribed to GOM since season 1, but occasionaly i'm watching the free stream at work and I've never had a problem. Pretty disappointing that every time GSL is on, there are 5-10 re-streams on TL. If it's that hard for the busy TL staff to monitor their stream content when GSL goes live, then go ahead and ask for someone to volunteer to do it. Hell 3 streams right now specifically state "restreaming gsl" in their description. Very bad situation.. people need to learn that they don't have a "right" to other peoples content. The free stream works, and if it doesn't work for you, then the option to go premium is there for less than a burger and a coke. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
→ [GSL] Code A Ro8 Stream: Sverige614 So I guess TL has now allowed restreams? Im confused | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
There are our people in Korea, no risks can be taken. I guess there will be mild warnings in advance if restreaming is banned again. The faster streamers will get used to situation changing every now and then, the better they will be able to abuse the fuck out of what they can do. | ||
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Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
On January 18 2011 21:21 LittLeD wrote: ON AIR: → [GSL] Code A Ro8 Stream: Sverige614 So I guess TL has now allowed restreams? Im confused What's to be confused about? Any streamer can associate themselves with an event. It doesn't mean we endorse it. I will disable his stream right now. | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
On January 18 2011 21:21 LittLeD wrote: ON AIR: → [GSL] Code A Ro8 Stream: Sverige614 So I guess TL has now allowed restreams? Im confused Whoever added it to calendar probably forget to set the "disassociate streams with event" option or whatever it is called. | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On January 18 2011 20:57 Scrimpton wrote: Sorry but that's just so off base it actually made me slightly embarrassed for you. Gotta say, I've been subscribed to GOM since season 1, but occasionaly i'm watching the free stream at work and I've never had a problem. Pretty disappointing that every time GSL is on, there are 5-10 re-streams on TL. If it's that hard for the busy TL staff to monitor their stream content when GSL goes live, then go ahead and ask for someone to volunteer to do it. Hell 3 streams right now specifically state "restreaming gsl" in their description. Very bad situation.. people need to learn that they don't have a "right" to other peoples content. The free stream works, and if it doesn't work for you, then the option to go premium is there for less than a burger and a coke. It almost seems like you're getting re-streaming a bit mixed up with 3rd party VODs? No one should ever mention premium at all in this discussion IMO... it's pretty much a completely unrelated topic. I will not debate that re-streaming is violating GSLs rights, especially if they ask for it to be taken down, but is that really why you say it's disappointing? The fact that a big rich company has it's rights slightly violated even though it's not costing them money? (even potentially saving their server from crashing) The statement "many people unable to use/watch the official GSL stream free or paid" is completely correct, so while his opinion based on that fact may be in disagreement with you, I think it's stupid that you think/imply he should be embarassed for sharing an extremely valid opinion. If TL wants to remove re-streams thats fine, but it doesn't stop the streams from airing, or people watching them - a few clicks to livestream/ustream/justintv and people can quite easily watch. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On January 18 2011 20:57 Scrimpton wrote: Sorry but that's just so off base it actually made me slightly embarrassed for you. Gotta say, I've been subscribed to GOM since season 1, but occasionaly i'm watching the free stream at work and I've never had a problem. Pretty disappointing that every time GSL is on, there are 5-10 re-streams on TL. If it's that hard for the busy TL staff to monitor their stream content when GSL goes live, then go ahead and ask for someone to volunteer to do it. Hell 3 streams right now specifically state "restreaming gsl" in their description. Very bad situation.. people need to learn that they don't have a "right" to other peoples content. The free stream works, and if it doesn't work for you, then the option to go premium is there for less than a burger and a coke. The real issue is that the GOM website's been crashing a lot lately and many people haven't been able to watch through the official stream. I would've missed both quarter finals today if not for a restream, as GOM player gave me an error message the entire time (and that was after trying to get the website to load for half an hour too). Premium doesn't make the stream work better unfortunately. I understand and agree with TL's stance, but the restreamers are doing a lot of people unable to watch a favour. | ||
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Ic3d
Canada187 Posts
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Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
On January 29 2011 05:47 Ic3d wrote: Yeah makes sense. Just keep it off TL. Check Ustream/Justin/Own3d directly as Xapti suggested. I actually disagree with this, you got threads about much worse crimes than re-streaming gsl that are allowed to stay open. Example: the high thread.The thing that sucks about no restreaming is that I cannot watch GSL at school because the port the gomplayer uses is blocked. Finding a restream on ustream etc is like finding a needle in a haystack. | ||
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Latham
9590 Posts
On March 02 2011 18:44 Roflhaxx wrote: I actually disagree with this, you got threads about much worse crimes than re-streaming gsl that are allowed to stay open. Example: the high thread.The thing that sucks about no restreaming is that I cannot watch GSL at school because the port the gomplayer uses is blocked. Finding a restream on ustream etc is like finding a needle in a haystack. TL isn't doing this just to make your life miserable you know. They were asked by e-mail by Gom to not endorse restreaming. Gom needs those viewer statistics to show off to sponsors so that they'll know money is involved. If the )potential( sponsors see that there is interest, they'll support the game financially. If there would be a mere 500 person audience you can bet your ass GSL would never go past season 1. TL is an official team with a sponsor that tries to make a name for themselves in the Korean scene. They're also a huge proxy for Korea to the western world. If TL would endorse (read: not punish or do nothing about) streaming, they could have problems. They could range from "not cooperative attitudes" to straight up penalizing TL in one way or another. I agree it sucks that you can't find restreams on TL, but suck it up for God's sake. Try some manual labor instead antcipating that everything is going to be handed to you on a silver platter. There are always loopholes you can find, even if they require jumping through some hoops to get to them. And lol @ the "worse crimes" being "the high thread" kekekekekekekeke | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
On March 02 2011 18:44 Roflhaxx wrote: I actually disagree with this, you got threads about much worse crimes than re-streaming gsl that are allowed to stay open. Example: the high thread.The thing that sucks about no restreaming is that I cannot watch GSL at school because the port the gomplayer uses is blocked. Finding a restream on ustream etc is like finding a needle in a haystack. Watch VODs? I hope you don't mean you're trying to watch them in high school or something -_- If you're at University, that's pretty frustrating, but again, just watch VODs. | ||
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Zurachi
Canada289 Posts
My channel on justin.tv was recently just banned/closed while I was streaming my own gameplay. According to the e-mail I got, it was closed under the accusation of re-streaming the GomTV's GSL. I did NOT in any way do so and am totally outraged at both justin.tv and GomTV doing this without any kind of warning. I have no idea how the process works out and if it has anything to do with the TL channel listing... but I find this totally BS. Just sent an email to both parties regarding the blind accusation. Just a warning to any streamers out there... your stream may get closed for absolutely no reason if you stream anything starcraft related during the GSL. | ||
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SpaNkinG
Turkey89 Posts
i mean the finals start within 5 minutes | ||
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babybell
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On August 11 2011 22:27 Abrafred wrote: I'm begging to watch gstl right now. its live and i can't see any of it because the GomPlayer is screwed up. Probably full capacity.. i don't knoow but it's giving me wierd error every time i press play. Managed to watch some earlier butit froze and gave me the same error. So it would be great to catch a live restream. Restreaming does nothing bad for Gom. If it's the free version that is. If Gom can't give me the stream i don't see why someone else shouldn't. Maybe we can have restreams supported by Gom so that their views can be accounted for when being presented to the sponsors. Try posting in the tech support forum with proper information. they're pretty good at what they do in there, especially regarding gom player issues(they've probably seen it all before). restreams DO hurt gom. They have sponsors. They get numbers off their stream(number of viewer hours, number of connections etc). They give those numbers to their sponsors to prove that they are getting value for their sponsorship dollars. If everyone watched off a restream sponsors would pull out and GSTL would die. | ||
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