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On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever.
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On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever.
The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol.
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there is no patch its thursday already.
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On December 16 2010 09:33 tournamentnow wrote: there is no patch its thursday already.
Might have meant thursday for the US not korea.
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On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol.
while i agree MLG is generally entertaining.. entertainment doesn't really equate to skill level displayed. Bronze level funday mondays are entertaining, it doesn't mean the games are high level.
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On December 15 2010 18:37 cocosoft wrote: What's the big deal? It's not like the patch removed marines.
^this made me lawl.
It's not like they're doing anything that will affect balance, it probably just the improved search features for custom games and chat channels.
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is it known yet if the ladder is being reset?
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On December 16 2010 09:48 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol. while i agree MLG is generally entertaining.. entertainment doesn't really equate to skill level displayed. Bronze level funday mondays are entertaining, it doesn't mean the games are high level.
So you think the top level foreigners suck or something? :S
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I hope you aren't serious. You are american and have access to the PTR. The rest of the world can't play/pratice on 1.2...
NA servers aren't like Korea where you need to have a Korean SSN to use them.
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If the korean tourneys cared, they would just undo the patch with custom maps, eg take the 5 maps they're going to use or whatever and copy the old unit stats back in.
No big.
Of course, I can't imagine how blizzard cares about esports, none of their actions show it. So ironic to release the "esports patch" at a time that will severely disrupt esports, and it's not even like it allows in-game tournaments or anything, very disappointing.
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On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol.
I second this, that dude apparently didnt watch Jinro, Tylers, or honestly nearly any player that was casted games because this last MLG was insane. Low level is a great way of saying "i didnt watch mlg and im a douche".
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Hope they wont reset the ladders! were not even close to 9000+ yet! =) well this is just rumors nothing is stated by blizz anyways!
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Blizzard did promise a ladder reset and chat channel implementation in November OR December... Wouldn't be surprised if it happened on Friday.
Seems like they like to release patches on Friday's.
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On December 16 2010 09:52 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:48 crms wrote:On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol. while i agree MLG is generally entertaining.. entertainment doesn't really equate to skill level displayed. Bronze level funday mondays are entertaining, it doesn't mean the games are high level. So you think the top level foreigners suck or something? :S
I think they are on the whole behind the top level koreans. A lot of the korean players are getting flack for their 'high cheese, low skill play' but the execution of these cheeses and micro is pretty intense. Generally at MLG we get longer games buth with tons of mistakes on both sides that make the games much more exciting. I'm not bashing the top NA players.. I think a lot of them could have qualified for the GSL had they been giving the opportunity to compete but lets be honest none of them would have a great shot at winning the tournament. Jinro arguably the most successful nonKR GSL player (who i cheered the whole way) was severly outclassed by oGsMC once he got deep in the tournament.
I look forward to EG getting a house in Korea and hopefully more Liquid and other teams ASAP. I think that kind of environment just breeds skill building and overall success. That's the only thing NA/EU have been missing for awhile is the sense of professionalism and dedication the KR teams have. Infact if enough great players just got a house together in NA/EU it would improve their skill and pay off dividends, they don't even need to go to KR.
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you guys are forgetting the real reason why they have to release it this week
because christmas is next week and no one will be around at blizzard!!
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I think they did it to make the game more interesting :/
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At least we'll get the patch before christmas break, I don't think it will interfere with the finals. Plus, chat channels, finally.
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I doubt they will release the patch before xmas, what if something goes wrong? Then they will have to have people work overtime (pay them higher per hour rate) to fix the problems instead if they just release after xmas and if there are problem they could just use normal work time to fix them.
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Chat channels will make it so much easier! i wonder how they are going to do with "names and numbers on the side of the name" AND ur ladder/rank! in the channel. It will be very interesting at least.
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On December 16 2010 09:52 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:48 crms wrote:On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol. while i agree MLG is generally entertaining.. entertainment doesn't really equate to skill level displayed. Bronze level funday mondays are entertaining, it doesn't mean the games are high level. So you think the top level foreigners suck or something? :S Think of it this way...
Foreigners at the GSL are like europeans that come over and play in the NBA. Jinro is Pau Gasol, but most of them are just Vlade Divac.
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