Pick Your Power Mafia 2! - Page 51

On August 29 2010 12:15 zeks wrote:


Getting as much of my analysis and information out there before I die (scum has built a wonderful case on me as being SK and getting the attention diverted away from scum hunt):

First Radfield told people not to state their role. I randomed rolecop so I didn't go against the plan at all with the whole exception thing. So I didn't roleclaim because I think its agreed that roleclaiming is a bad idea, but Radfield (and LSB) are pushing for my claim. Not to mention he also suggests keeping the SK around to kill off mafia and soak up hits. And now for some reason he wants me (supposedly the SK) dead - probably cause the SK is a legit threat to scum now since he nailed Subversion successfully day 1 (gj to whoever the SK is btw)

I think he also suggested not to roleclaim yet now he's so interested in what my investigative results were for day 1. Kinda fishy imo. I am going to take the day 1 role check info to the grave - to avoid more people's roles revealed.

Night kill should go to LSB

I think its established that only LSB or chaoser can be the traitor

LSB pointed me out so quickly so its pretty obvious that he knew what I was. In fact its extremely likely that my role was figured out after the Hesmyrr/SR traitor fiasco, since by process of elimination Subversion could only have picked what I had picked.

I wouldn't be surprised if LSB is already recruited. Why?
If I were suspected as the traitor mafia would send someone to use an action on me to recruit me. Why instead did they use a kill? Because they KNEW I wasn't a traitor after the Hesmyrr lynch and I was actually a role cop from Subversion being vanilla. - Just figured this out.

Thus they must've used their actions on LSB to recruit him - and now that the focus has been to nab the SK he has fallen under the radar. In fact he should the #1 suspect of being scum.

So scum knew I was rolecop and could not have possibly been the traitor, and since I lived through the night he and scum all knew I either got protected or was the SK. But they didn't know what happened which is why in the posts a couple pages back LSB kept raising the fact that medics couldn't have protected me to paint me as the SK (but in fact I DID get protected as it has been raised in many people's plans to get medics to protect me).

Conclusions/summary:
1. After Hesmyrr lynch, scum knew I was role cop (and cannot possibly be traitor).
2. Thus the traitor is either 2 or 3, and by my posting analysis it is likely to be 3. LSB so mafia likely sent in actions to recruit him
3. Mafia failed to kill me, so I can only be SK or protected.

4a. The SK currently is considered more of a threat to scum (from the amazing Subversion snipe) so since they think I'm the SK getting rid of me would reduce what they consider a threat.
b. If I'm not SK then they'd still get rid of a role cop - a strong pro town role in its own right.

I wanted to hold out of claiming in the beginning to bait these people out, and when I die today I think I've accomplished more than enough even though I'm the role cop.

On August 29 2010 12:30 DarthThienAn wrote:

? At the time of your post, it didn't make sense for you to claim like you did. Especially since you were trying to clear zeks as an innocent, when he's either SK or traitor. You watched zeks and saw 4 people visit him. You assumed it was mafia, doctor, role cop, and some other role, when it was just mafia (Ace hadn't clarified at the time). So what did you accomplish? Aside from outting yourself, all you said was, "zeks was visited by 4 people." What happened as a result of that is great, but it's not something you had planned, and so from that perspective, the claim wasn't effective.

@zeks:

1. How did scum know you were role cop? I guess if you're assuming that Subversion went for role cop. When he could've just as easily gone for any of the top 3 picks, any other role, or not picked at all.
2. Well, I mean, if you're not traitor and SR isn't lying, it's pretty obvious that the traitor is 2 or 3. I too think LSB is more likely traitor though.
3. Let's say you're role cop. Mafia hit you. You survived. How? Explain this to me ^^, Mr. SK/Traitor.
4a. You consider yourself more a threat to the scum... why? Aside from potentially killing one of them (which didn't happen last PYP I don't think, so congrats on your hit), the SK helps the mafia by bringing the town numbers down quicker, doesn't he? So why would scum want to get rid of you?
b. It's all a conspiracy ^^.

1. Its all likelihood - he won't go for the top 3 picks because 1. the plan and likeliness of a top 3 pick passed down to him at #7. It should be agreed that getting a role is better than not getting a role. Most simple answer is usually the answer.
2. Glad you agree.
3. I got protected by a JOAT/medic. If you ask why only 4 people were tracked to me (4 mafia?) I would tell you bum lied.
4a. Not myself, I consider the SK a threat because the SK made a good hit so I guess the SK must be thinking pro-town right now thus scum would want to get rid of the SK asap. The SK can be your best friend or your worst enemy.
b. I think it has been agreed by most that role cop is one of the top town roles to get early - seeing as the finalized list having role cop as early as #5.


So let me get this straight: you're claiming Town Role Cop?

On August 29 2010 12:35 rastaban wrote:
##Vote Zeks

Nice catch on him being serial killer. The earlier he dies the more time we have to catch mafia.

Also, I haven't seen any votes yet for who I should hit tonight so Let me know what you all think.

Personally I think I should shoot SR, but only if Zeks doesn't flip traitor.

On August 29 2010 12:30 DarthThienAn wrote:

? At the time of your post, it didn't make sense for you to claim like you did. Especially since you were trying to clear zeks as an innocent, when he's either SK or traitor. You watched zeks and saw 4 people visit him. You assumed it was mafia, doctor, role cop, and some other role, when it was just mafia (Ace hadn't clarified at the time). So what did you accomplish? Aside from outting yourself, all you said was, "zeks was visited by 4 people." What happened as a result of that is great, but it's not something you had planned, and so from that perspective, the claim wasn't effective.

On August 29 2010 12:40 zeks wrote:
Oops I quoted the whole thing including my own comments. Yes, I'm a Town Role cop.

On August 29 2010 12:45 LSB wrote:


SR is the best bet, stick to the traitor removal plan. It is really tricky to lynch him during the day (cause he could be vengeful player)

If SR is actually vanilla town, we'll kill choaser tomorrow, and we get the traitor.

But what if zeks flips town? (I'll make a larger post if he is)
The only leak I can see is Bum. But we did make the assumption that their are 4 mafia.

On August 29 2010 12:54 bumatlarge wrote:


Why not? We then could have specific roles to choose from to do certain things, and know our blues werent complete flukes. We could call one the "zeks doctor" to protect so and so. "person who tracked/checked/othered zeks" could be bidden to do such and such. Sure it would be incovenient to have had roles overlap on zeks, but i think I was obligated to inform the town regardless.

Plus, I think everyone was convinced watcher was useless. Now mafia can decide to hit me or not, while originally I was an 'unlikely blue'. They waste a shot on me, we can threaten to protect me, or both factions will ignore me. Stop trying to pin shit on me. What I did was justified scum. 4 mafias my ass, had to let that one slip gracefully didnt ya.

On August 29 2010 13:10 zeks wrote:
Pandain are you joking?

On August 29 2010 13:11 DarthThienAn wrote:

I hope so. -__-

On August 29 2010 06:50 Pandain wrote:

Actually, while I'm going to believe you unless a doctor claims he protected Zeks, your whole "proof" relies on that Subversion picked rolecop. Given only 20 minutes to pick, its not unlikely mafia was unprepared for a replacement/was not on on that time. I wouldn't be surprised if subversion, trying to find a good mafia role and unaware of the plan(correct?), picked either
CV(duh)
Prince of darkness(good mafia role)
or even bad santa(at the very list interesting/grants KP)

But again, I'm going to vote for zeks because
1.He claimed rolecop
2.He won't explain that quote
3. A doctor hasn't said he protected him.

I'll wait till probably ~7 tommorow just to give time for a doctor to claim, but until then my mind's set on voting Zeks.

On August 29 2010 09:26 bumatlarge wrote:
Look at darth trying to downplay what i did. How could I not have claimed without sealing that deal? SK will die (hopefully) because of me. And declaring people as town is FoS in my book, Ive seen and done it all too often. Hell call anyone scum, but watch what you say about clean people.

I dont really need medic protection unless we plan something, oh what kill are we missing? If I die kill darth, divine, pandain. YEAH THATS RIGHT KILL EM.

On August 29 2010 13:45 zeks wrote:
I really want Ace to confirm whether the pardon worked or not soon - I do have further information that I would like to reveal before I'm hung in 3 hours

I really want to go to sleep soon, I'm driving 9 hours to New York tomorrow morning...(7am est)