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On January 25 2010 20:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote: FBH had an econ advantage? When? He had at most 15 scvs. Even when fantasy suicided a ton of his, they were still almost even. Watch the vod, fbh clearly had more scv. Go check ur eyes or something.
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On January 25 2010 20:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote: FBH had an econ advantage? When? He had at most 15 scvs. Even when fantasy suicided a ton of his, they were still almost even.
They showed a shot of both player's CCs, and FBH definitely had a couple more scvs.
His scv count was low enough so that he probably couldn't assume that, though.
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CMON BIG BIRD - ITS TIME TO SHOW THIS BIG NOSED MUPPET HOW TO GET CURB STOMPED ON SESAME STREET
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On January 25 2010 20:23 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 20:17 NguN wrote: People really doubt Fantasy's TvP... He practises against Bisu and Best, which is probably as good as practising against Jangbi and Stork. (If you don't believe me, check out Bisu's PvT record in 09. 69.57%)
Fantasy would probably have more difficulty with a Zerg then a Protoss. Stork's still Stork though, and that's tough enough. Your logic is terribly flawed. Killer has jaedong to practice zvz with, then why does he still suck so much? Luxury has flash to practice with, then why does he still suck? unless you're already good enough to simply compete with your practice partners, you arnt going to get anything out of it. Fantasy can play with Bisu/Best, so he gets better by doing so. Killer just gets raped game after game by JD, so he probably learns nothing and ends up depressed. This is ofc theorycrafting but logic makes sense imo, just like you want to play ppl just a little better than you, rather than go straight after the A+ Koreans
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Thank you Stork for not 12 nexing
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On January 25 2010 20:24 propj wrote: lol Terrorist Thats his nickname because he terrorizes brackets.
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On January 25 2010 20:25 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 20:23 MuffinDude wrote:On January 25 2010 20:17 NguN wrote: People really doubt Fantasy's TvP... He practises against Bisu and Best, which is probably as good as practising against Jangbi and Stork. (If you don't believe me, check out Bisu's PvT record in 09. 69.57%)
Fantasy would probably have more difficulty with a Zerg then a Protoss. Stork's still Stork though, and that's tough enough. Your logic is terribly flawed. Killer has jaedong to practice zvz with, then why does he still suck so much? Luxury has flash to practice with, then why does he still suck? unless you're already good enough to simply compete with your practice partners, you arnt going to get anything out of it. Fantasy can play with Bisu/Best, so he gets better by doing so. Killer just gets raped game after game by JD, so he probably learns nothing and ends up depressed. This is ofc theorycrafting but logic makes sense imo, just like you want to play ppl just a little better than you, rather than go straight after the A+ Koreans people aren't good because of their practice partners - they are good because they are good. otherwise, any team with good protosses would have good terrans and then that would mean they have good zergs and so on.
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On January 25 2010 20:24 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 20:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote: FBH had an econ advantage? When? He had at most 15 scvs. Even when fantasy suicided a ton of his, they were still almost even. Watch the vod, fbh clearly had more scv. Go check ur eyes or something. -____- No man. FBH cut scvs all game. When they showed his main before he lost, he had at most 15 scvs. Fantasy didn't cut as many because he put down facts a little later when he scouted proxy.
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Chen u r dumb sry but I"m drunk so I'm honest
unlucky
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Mystlord
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fantasy making a big sigh like "I don't wanna be here anymore"
Stork maybe going for a proxy? Probe at 12.
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On January 25 2010 20:20 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote: Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway. No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games. lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies? Cause he does it twice. Because he's still in a must-win situation against a team that can afford to throw 2-3 people with cheese rushes/random proxies at him and he will insta-lose if he doesn't scout them? I wouldn't be surprised if he scouts around for proxies from Stork as well. If he fails to scout either of those two proxies, is it great mind games from FBH/Jangbi? Not going to see anybody be like "omg map hack how did they know he wouldn't be prepared for this????"
FBH/Jangbi made the obvious move and abused their 3 game lead to try to cheese a little, don't blame Fantasy for being paranoid in his situation.
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On January 25 2010 20:25 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 20:23 MuffinDude wrote:On January 25 2010 20:17 NguN wrote: People really doubt Fantasy's TvP... He practises against Bisu and Best, which is probably as good as practising against Jangbi and Stork. (If you don't believe me, check out Bisu's PvT record in 09. 69.57%)
Fantasy would probably have more difficulty with a Zerg then a Protoss. Stork's still Stork though, and that's tough enough. Your logic is terribly flawed. Killer has jaedong to practice zvz with, then why does he still suck so much? Luxury has flash to practice with, then why does he still suck? unless you're already good enough to simply compete with your practice partners, you arnt going to get anything out of it. Fantasy can play with Bisu/Best, so he gets better by doing so. Killer just gets raped game after game by JD, so he probably learns nothing and ends up depressed. This is ofc theorycrafting but logic makes sense imo, just like you want to play ppl just a little better than you, rather than go straight after the A+ Koreans Luxury did good enough to practice with flash yet he starts sucking.
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lmao stork gonna proxy tech? nope just hiding scout
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On January 25 2010 20:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 20:24 MuffinDude wrote:On January 25 2010 20:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote: FBH had an econ advantage? When? He had at most 15 scvs. Even when fantasy suicided a ton of his, they were still almost even. Watch the vod, fbh clearly had more scv. Go check ur eyes or something. -____- No man. FBH cut scvs all game. When they showed his main before he lost, he had at most 15 scvs. Fantasy didn't cut as many because he put down facts a little later when he scouted proxy.
There was a shot where Fantasy had like 8 scvs and culdn't afford to build more because he was spamming ogls.
What happeend after that I don't really know, thoug.
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On January 25 2010 20:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 20:24 MuffinDude wrote:On January 25 2010 20:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote: FBH had an econ advantage? When? He had at most 15 scvs. Even when fantasy suicided a ton of his, they were still almost even. Watch the vod, fbh clearly had more scv. Go check ur eyes or something. -____- No man. FBH cut scvs all game. When they showed his main before he lost, he had at most 15 scvs. Fantasy didn't cut as many because he put down facts a little later when he scouted proxy.
Stop arguing when you are wrong FBH had more scvs than Fantasy after Fantasy kept pulling and losing them in battles. This is a fact. Wait till you watch the VOD. Both Fantasy and FBH have been cutting scvs to keep up with each other's production
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On January 25 2010 20:26 Jakalo wrote:Thats his nickname because he terrorizes brackets.
it's not because he runs around with vultures and terrorizes everything? he's pretty good at that too
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On January 25 2010 20:27 samachking wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 20:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 25 2010 20:24 MuffinDude wrote:On January 25 2010 20:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote: FBH had an econ advantage? When? He had at most 15 scvs. Even when fantasy suicided a ton of his, they were still almost even. Watch the vod, fbh clearly had more scv. Go check ur eyes or something. -____- No man. FBH cut scvs all game. When they showed his main before he lost, he had at most 15 scvs. Fantasy didn't cut as many because he put down facts a little later when he scouted proxy. Stop arguing when you are wrong FBH had more scvs than Fantasy after Fantasy kept pulling and losing them in battles. This is a fact. Wait till you watch the VOD. Both Fantasy and FBH have been cutting scvs to keep up with each other's production I thought fbh had fewer
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On January 25 2010 20:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 20:24 MuffinDude wrote:On January 25 2010 20:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote: FBH had an econ advantage? When? He had at most 15 scvs. Even when fantasy suicided a ton of his, they were still almost even. Watch the vod, fbh clearly had more scv. Go check ur eyes or something. -____- No man. FBH cut scvs all game. When they showed his main before he lost, he had at most 15 scvs. Fantasy didn't cut as many because he put down facts a little later when he scouted proxy. Again check the vod. They showed that eh had more SCV than fantasy. Really. Check your eyes.
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