• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:23
CET 21:23
KST 05:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled8Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains12Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18BSL Season 224
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Terran AddOns placement Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains
Tourneys
StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) https://www.facebook.com/BubaSocks.Official/ [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO WardiTV Team League Season 10 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1744 users

[SWL] SKT vs Samsung KHAN - Page 36

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 50 Next All
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
January 25 2010 11:17 GMT
#701
People really doubt Fantasy's TvP... He practises against Bisu and Best, which is probably as good as practising against Jangbi and Stork. (If you don't believe me, check out Bisu's PvT record in 09. 69.57%)

Fantasy would probably have more difficulty with a Zerg then a Protoss. Stork's still Stork though, and that's tough enough.
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 11:18:14
January 25 2010 11:17 GMT
#702
On January 25 2010 20:16 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:14 roMAD wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:12 soudo wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Too bad, if KHAN just had a decent zerg, they could end this.


(Z)by.great is pretty decent.

by.great would die horribly on Fighting Spirit, fantasy has been raping zergs on that map.

Say what???


I'm pretty sure romad is talking about replays he's watched, not televised games.

Sure it's not exactly the same thing, but the sample size is larger, and probably more recent to boot
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
January 25 2010 11:19 GMT
#703
On January 25 2010 20:16 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:14 roMAD wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:12 soudo wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Too bad, if KHAN just had a decent zerg, they could end this.


(Z)by.great is pretty decent.

by.great would die horribly on Fighting Spirit, fantasy has been raping zergs on that map.

Say what???

I mean in practice Moon glaive is a nice ZvT map
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
January 25 2010 11:19 GMT
#704
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 11:20:30
January 25 2010 11:20 GMT
#705
On January 25 2010 20:16 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 19:43 Chen wrote:
On January 25 2010 19:41 SilverSkyLark wrote:
uhm ok, around pages 26 and 27, people were saying that fanta is losing..

then at page 28, fanta wins..


Fantasy pulls 1/2 of his workers, then LOSES THE GIANT BATTLE. he then proceeds to win the following one wtf? pushes into FBH's factory line and wins the game


All of FBH's gols were on low health. Fantasy just focus fired and took them all out pretty quickly. That should be obvious.

I assumed FBH would not be stupid enough to push against a goliath arch with 1/2 health units and a huge economy advantage.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 25 2010 11:20 GMT
#706
On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?

Cause he does it twice.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 25 2010 11:21 GMT
#707
On January 25 2010 20:20 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?

Cause he does it twice.

Well it doesn't help that Khan is full of cheesers

+ Show Spoiler +
jkjk
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 25 2010 11:21 GMT
#708
On January 25 2010 20:20 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?

Cause he does it twice.

I thought Fantasy was Mr. Uncheesable? I remember during his OSL runs whenever his opponent cheesed ppl would be like omg GG, cause he would scout them 9 out of 10 times.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 11:22:40
January 25 2010 11:22 GMT
#709
On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?
its compliment to fantasy lol. his so good its as if his using maphack
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2396 Posts
January 25 2010 11:22 GMT
#710
On January 25 2010 20:20 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:16 Qwertify wrote:
On January 25 2010 19:43 Chen wrote:
On January 25 2010 19:41 SilverSkyLark wrote:
uhm ok, around pages 26 and 27, people were saying that fanta is losing..

then at page 28, fanta wins..


Fantasy pulls 1/2 of his workers, then LOSES THE GIANT BATTLE. he then proceeds to win the following one wtf? pushes into FBH's factory line and wins the game


All of FBH's gols were on low health. Fantasy just focus fired and took them all out pretty quickly. That should be obvious.

I assumed FBH would not be stupid enough to push against a goliath arch with 1/2 health units and a huge economy advantage.


FBH doesn't necessarily know he has the economgy advantage.
The original Bogus fan.
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 11:23:23
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#711
On January 25 2010 20:17 NguN wrote:
People really doubt Fantasy's TvP... He practises against Bisu and Best, which is probably as good as practising against Jangbi and Stork. (If you don't believe me, check out Bisu's PvT record in 09. 69.57%)

Fantasy would probably have more difficulty with a Zerg then a Protoss. Stork's still Stork though, and that's tough enough.


That might be so given (T)fantasy has 51% winrate gainst zerg.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#712
On January 25 2010 20:22 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:20 Chen wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:16 Qwertify wrote:
On January 25 2010 19:43 Chen wrote:
On January 25 2010 19:41 SilverSkyLark wrote:
uhm ok, around pages 26 and 27, people were saying that fanta is losing..

then at page 28, fanta wins..


Fantasy pulls 1/2 of his workers, then LOSES THE GIANT BATTLE. he then proceeds to win the following one wtf? pushes into FBH's factory line and wins the game


All of FBH's gols were on low health. Fantasy just focus fired and took them all out pretty quickly. That should be obvious.

I assumed FBH would not be stupid enough to push against a goliath arch with 1/2 health units and a huge economy advantage.


FBH doesn't necessarily know he has the economgy advantage.

how does he not know? He killed at least 10 SCV's in that fight.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#713
On January 25 2010 20:17 NguN wrote:
People really doubt Fantasy's TvP... He practises against Bisu and Best, which is probably as good as practising against Jangbi and Stork. (If you don't believe me, check out Bisu's PvT record in 09. 69.57%)

Fantasy would probably have more difficulty with a Zerg then a Protoss. Stork's still Stork though, and that's tough enough.

Your logic is terribly flawed. Killer has jaedong to practice zvz with, then why does he still suck so much? Luxury has flash to practice with, then why does he still suck?
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#714
FBH had an econ advantage? When? He had at most 15 scvs. Even when fantasy suicided a ton of his, they were still almost even.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#715
Set 6 : Fighting Spirit

(P)Stork @ bottom right
(T)fantasy @ top left
( ・´ー・`)
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#716
STORK HWAITING
Victor
Profile Joined November 2005
New Zealand1016 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#717
here we go

Fantasy top left
Stork bottom right
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#718
On January 25 2010 20:21 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:20 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?

Cause he does it twice.

I thought Fantasy was Mr. Uncheesable? I remember during his OSL runs whenever his opponent cheesed ppl would be like omg GG, cause he would scout them 9 out of 10 times.

Hes been maphacking all along >:O
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#719
I wish I had faith in Stork being good when it matters
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 25 2010 11:24 GMT
#720
Killer has actually improved a lot

Luxury however is fucking useless as usual
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 50 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 37m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 627
ProTech127
IndyStarCraft 118
JuggernautJason66
StarCraft: Brood War
scan(afreeca) 55
sSak 50
NaDa 8
Dota 2
Gorgc5373
canceldota74
Counter-Strike
fl0m3331
byalli826
Coldzera 30
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu312
Khaldor148
Other Games
gofns44416
tarik_tv20197
summit1g4672
Grubby2816
FrodaN2752
Beastyqt750
B2W.Neo654
KnowMe346
DeMusliM167
C9.Mang0134
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream17303
Other Games
gamesdonequick1803
ComeBackTV 266
BasetradeTV169
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 60
• davetesta4
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 52
• RayReign 37
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota246
League of Legends
• Doublelift2133
• TFBlade1080
Other Games
• imaqtpie1164
• Shiphtur171
• Scarra16
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 37m
CranKy Ducklings
13h 37m
RSL Revival
13h 37m
MaxPax vs Rogue
Clem vs Bunny
WardiTV Team League
15h 37m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
20h 37m
BSL
23h 37m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 13h
RSL Revival
1d 13h
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
WardiTV Team League
1d 15h
Patches Events
1d 20h
[ Show More ]
BSL
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
GSL
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-12
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
Proleague 2026-03-13
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.