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NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
January 25 2010 11:17 GMT
#701
People really doubt Fantasy's TvP... He practises against Bisu and Best, which is probably as good as practising against Jangbi and Stork. (If you don't believe me, check out Bisu's PvT record in 09. 69.57%)

Fantasy would probably have more difficulty with a Zerg then a Protoss. Stork's still Stork though, and that's tough enough.
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 11:18:14
January 25 2010 11:17 GMT
#702
On January 25 2010 20:16 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:14 roMAD wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:12 soudo wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Too bad, if KHAN just had a decent zerg, they could end this.


(Z)by.great is pretty decent.

by.great would die horribly on Fighting Spirit, fantasy has been raping zergs on that map.

Say what???


I'm pretty sure romad is talking about replays he's watched, not televised games.

Sure it's not exactly the same thing, but the sample size is larger, and probably more recent to boot
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
January 25 2010 11:19 GMT
#703
On January 25 2010 20:16 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:14 roMAD wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:12 soudo wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Too bad, if KHAN just had a decent zerg, they could end this.


(Z)by.great is pretty decent.

by.great would die horribly on Fighting Spirit, fantasy has been raping zergs on that map.

Say what???

I mean in practice Moon glaive is a nice ZvT map
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
January 25 2010 11:19 GMT
#704
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
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On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 11:20:30
January 25 2010 11:20 GMT
#705
On January 25 2010 20:16 Qwertify wrote:
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On January 25 2010 19:43 Chen wrote:
On January 25 2010 19:41 SilverSkyLark wrote:
uhm ok, around pages 26 and 27, people were saying that fanta is losing..

then at page 28, fanta wins..


Fantasy pulls 1/2 of his workers, then LOSES THE GIANT BATTLE. he then proceeds to win the following one wtf? pushes into FBH's factory line and wins the game


All of FBH's gols were on low health. Fantasy just focus fired and took them all out pretty quickly. That should be obvious.

I assumed FBH would not be stupid enough to push against a goliath arch with 1/2 health units and a huge economy advantage.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 25 2010 11:20 GMT
#706
On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?

Cause he does it twice.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 25 2010 11:21 GMT
#707
On January 25 2010 20:20 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?

Cause he does it twice.

Well it doesn't help that Khan is full of cheesers

+ Show Spoiler +
jkjk
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 25 2010 11:21 GMT
#708
On January 25 2010 20:20 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?

Cause he does it twice.

I thought Fantasy was Mr. Uncheesable? I remember during his OSL runs whenever his opponent cheesed ppl would be like omg GG, cause he would scout them 9 out of 10 times.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 11:22:40
January 25 2010 11:22 GMT
#709
On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?
its compliment to fantasy lol. his so good its as if his using maphack
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
January 25 2010 11:22 GMT
#710
On January 25 2010 20:20 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:16 Qwertify wrote:
On January 25 2010 19:43 Chen wrote:
On January 25 2010 19:41 SilverSkyLark wrote:
uhm ok, around pages 26 and 27, people were saying that fanta is losing..

then at page 28, fanta wins..


Fantasy pulls 1/2 of his workers, then LOSES THE GIANT BATTLE. he then proceeds to win the following one wtf? pushes into FBH's factory line and wins the game


All of FBH's gols were on low health. Fantasy just focus fired and took them all out pretty quickly. That should be obvious.

I assumed FBH would not be stupid enough to push against a goliath arch with 1/2 health units and a huge economy advantage.


FBH doesn't necessarily know he has the economgy advantage.
The original Bogus fan.
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 11:23:23
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#711
On January 25 2010 20:17 NguN wrote:
People really doubt Fantasy's TvP... He practises against Bisu and Best, which is probably as good as practising against Jangbi and Stork. (If you don't believe me, check out Bisu's PvT record in 09. 69.57%)

Fantasy would probably have more difficulty with a Zerg then a Protoss. Stork's still Stork though, and that's tough enough.


That might be so given (T)fantasy has 51% winrate gainst zerg.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#712
On January 25 2010 20:22 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:20 Chen wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:16 Qwertify wrote:
On January 25 2010 19:43 Chen wrote:
On January 25 2010 19:41 SilverSkyLark wrote:
uhm ok, around pages 26 and 27, people were saying that fanta is losing..

then at page 28, fanta wins..


Fantasy pulls 1/2 of his workers, then LOSES THE GIANT BATTLE. he then proceeds to win the following one wtf? pushes into FBH's factory line and wins the game


All of FBH's gols were on low health. Fantasy just focus fired and took them all out pretty quickly. That should be obvious.

I assumed FBH would not be stupid enough to push against a goliath arch with 1/2 health units and a huge economy advantage.


FBH doesn't necessarily know he has the economgy advantage.

how does he not know? He killed at least 10 SCV's in that fight.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#713
On January 25 2010 20:17 NguN wrote:
People really doubt Fantasy's TvP... He practises against Bisu and Best, which is probably as good as practising against Jangbi and Stork. (If you don't believe me, check out Bisu's PvT record in 09. 69.57%)

Fantasy would probably have more difficulty with a Zerg then a Protoss. Stork's still Stork though, and that's tough enough.

Your logic is terribly flawed. Killer has jaedong to practice zvz with, then why does he still suck so much? Luxury has flash to practice with, then why does he still suck?
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#714
FBH had an econ advantage? When? He had at most 15 scvs. Even when fantasy suicided a ton of his, they were still almost even.
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prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4202 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#715
Set 6 : Fighting Spirit

(P)Stork @ bottom right
(T)fantasy @ top left
( ・´ー・`)
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#716
STORK HWAITING
Victor
Profile Joined November 2005
New Zealand1016 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#717
here we go

Fantasy top left
Stork bottom right
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#718
On January 25 2010 20:21 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:20 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:19 MCMcEmcee wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:14 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 25 2010 20:13 Salteador Neo wrote:
Not blaming the map for this loss, because Fanta played better. But this map is retarded anyway.

No. He didn't play better but map hacked better. In BOTH games.

lol so scouting locations where people might proxy is map hacking? Fantasy is in a must-win situation for his team so why WOULDN'T he scout for proxies?

Cause he does it twice.

I thought Fantasy was Mr. Uncheesable? I remember during his OSL runs whenever his opponent cheesed ppl would be like omg GG, cause he would scout them 9 out of 10 times.

Hes been maphacking all along >:O
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States692 Posts
January 25 2010 11:23 GMT
#719
I wish I had faith in Stork being good when it matters
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 25 2010 11:24 GMT
#720
Killer has actually improved a lot

Luxury however is fucking useless as usual
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
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