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On January 27 2022 21:42 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2022 21:37 deacon.frost wrote:On January 27 2022 21:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 27 2022 21:31 deacon.frost wrote:On January 27 2022 21:29 Vindicare605 wrote: You know it feels kind of bad to beat up on Trap when he didn't do well in this tournament, but this is what I mean about the championship pedegree that Zest has that Trap doesn't.
Trap was on top of the world for how long and in that time how many tournaments did he win? Like 2? And one of them was relatively minor?
Zest hasn't been relevant in at least a year and he just comes out of nowhere and bullshits his way to a tournament win, stepping over both Maru and Dark in some of their most dominant forms in the process. The guy knows how to be a champion, he just knows how to get it done.
Yea I know he's been dominating the weeklies but this is different. Like seriously, who before this tournament started called it that Zest was gonna do what he did?
He has actual champion pedegree. One of few current Protoss players that does. He won 7 premiers, the most of 2021 IIRC. Too lazy to check Just sayin. Even 7 (if that's the number) seems small compared to the amount of time Trap was unanimously considered the best Protoss in the world. I'd be VERY surprised if Trap manages to keep coming back years later the way someone like Zest or even sOs can. He had one solid run and that's gonna be all she wrote about him. Calling it now. I'm not disproving the championship stuff though. He never delivered in the big tournaments EveRyBoDY wAnTS!!! (Code S, WC) Which obviously brings up the old and tired argument of what TL considers to be a premier tournament. Something like Katowice and Code S deserve their own category. It's been the case for a long time. You COULD make the case that something like GSL Super Tournaments belong in that category too, but I wouldn't. The players don't value them as highly, Afreeca doesn't either. Katowice championships, Blizzcons and Code S all deserve their own special category of ultra premier or something similar that someone more clever with marketing can come up with. Yeah I agree, most people call those the 'tier 1' tournaments.
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France12482 Posts
On January 27 2022 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2022 21:52 Poopi wrote:On January 27 2022 21:29 Vindicare605 wrote: You know it feels kind of bad to beat up on Trap when he didn't do well in this tournament, but this is what I mean about the championship pedigree that Zest has that Trap doesn't.
Trap was on top of the world for how long and in that time how many tournaments did he win? Like 2? And one of them was relatively minor?
Zest hasn't been relevant in at least a year and he just comes out of nowhere and bullshits his way to a tournament win, stepping over both Maru and Dark in some of their most dominant forms in the process. The guy knows how to be a champion, he just knows how to get it done.
Yea I know he's been dominating the weeklies but this is different. Like seriously, who before this tournament started called it that Zest was gonna do what he did?
He has actual champion pedigree. One of few current Protoss players that does. Zest won as much money as Trap in 2021, he is the Katowice finalist two times in a row and should have won his Code S over Cure. He was the best protoss of 2021 so this is not super surprising that he can win this ST Super surprising is not what I said. I already said I consider Zest to be one of the few Protoss with champion pedigree so of course I'm never gonna count him out as a non-contender. But expecting THIS result.... come on, I never would have put my money on this happening and I'd be surprised if anyone would have unless they just like losing money, If anything is a surprise it's how Zest continues to so effectively keep coming back despite never showing the kind of dominance other champions have. Maybe it's because he's so quiet and mature, maybe it's because of something else, I don't know. But Zest has somehow quietly managed to be one of the most consistently dominant players in SC2's history. It's impressive, it really is. Well Zest beating both Classic and Bunny is expected, and maybe Rogue would have beaten him but Zest already beat him in bo7 code S, so bo5 super tournament is not that big of a stretch. The only surprising result is him beating Maru convincingly but TvP is so volatile that even Cure lost 0-3 to Zoun so it’s actually not a surprise either. Dark was the favorite on his side of the bracket, but afaik his ZvP is not necessarily better than Rogue’s?
If Serral was in place of Dark I would never bet on Zest for this ST, but with things how they were the favorites were Maru, Rogue, Zest, Dark imo
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On January 27 2022 21:29 Vindicare605 wrote: You know it feels kind of bad to beat up on Trap when he didn't do well in this tournament, but this is what I mean about the championship pedigree that Zest has that Trap doesn't. a weird thing to say as a response to Zest winning GSL Super Tournament considering Trap won this tournament 3 times in a row before.
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What's the next big tournament? Katowice?
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On January 27 2022 23:00 Pandain wrote: What's the next big tournament? Katowice?
I believe so. The next season of Code S doesnt start until after Katowice.... I think.
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On January 27 2022 22:01 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2022 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 27 2022 21:52 Poopi wrote:On January 27 2022 21:29 Vindicare605 wrote: You know it feels kind of bad to beat up on Trap when he didn't do well in this tournament, but this is what I mean about the championship pedigree that Zest has that Trap doesn't.
Trap was on top of the world for how long and in that time how many tournaments did he win? Like 2? And one of them was relatively minor?
Zest hasn't been relevant in at least a year and he just comes out of nowhere and bullshits his way to a tournament win, stepping over both Maru and Dark in some of their most dominant forms in the process. The guy knows how to be a champion, he just knows how to get it done.
Yea I know he's been dominating the weeklies but this is different. Like seriously, who before this tournament started called it that Zest was gonna do what he did?
He has actual champion pedigree. One of few current Protoss players that does. Zest won as much money as Trap in 2021, he is the Katowice finalist two times in a row and should have won his Code S over Cure. He was the best protoss of 2021 so this is not super surprising that he can win this ST Super surprising is not what I said. I already said I consider Zest to be one of the few Protoss with champion pedigree so of course I'm never gonna count him out as a non-contender. But expecting THIS result.... come on, I never would have put my money on this happening and I'd be surprised if anyone would have unless they just like losing money, If anything is a surprise it's how Zest continues to so effectively keep coming back despite never showing the kind of dominance other champions have. Maybe it's because he's so quiet and mature, maybe it's because of something else, I don't know. But Zest has somehow quietly managed to be one of the most consistently dominant players in SC2's history. It's impressive, it really is. Well Zest beating both Classic and Bunny is expected, and maybe Rogue would have beaten him but Zest already beat him in bo7 code S, so bo5 super tournament is not that big of a stretch. The only surprising result is him beating Maru convincingly but TvP is so volatile that even Cure lost 0-3 to Zoun so it’s actually not a surprise either. Dark was the favorite on his side of the bracket, but afaik his ZvP is not necessarily better than Rogue’s? If Serral was in place of Dark I would never bet on Zest for this ST, but with things how they were the favorites were Maru, Rogue, Zest, Dark imo There are 2 guys currently that I think Zest are considered as "underdog" against in a Bo5+ series, and they are Maru and Serral, Zest has at least a 50/50 chance against pretty much everybody else with his sharp build order and great game sense.
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On January 27 2022 23:53 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2022 22:01 Poopi wrote:On January 27 2022 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 27 2022 21:52 Poopi wrote:On January 27 2022 21:29 Vindicare605 wrote: You know it feels kind of bad to beat up on Trap when he didn't do well in this tournament, but this is what I mean about the championship pedigree that Zest has that Trap doesn't.
Trap was on top of the world for how long and in that time how many tournaments did he win? Like 2? And one of them was relatively minor?
Zest hasn't been relevant in at least a year and he just comes out of nowhere and bullshits his way to a tournament win, stepping over both Maru and Dark in some of their most dominant forms in the process. The guy knows how to be a champion, he just knows how to get it done.
Yea I know he's been dominating the weeklies but this is different. Like seriously, who before this tournament started called it that Zest was gonna do what he did?
He has actual champion pedigree. One of few current Protoss players that does. Zest won as much money as Trap in 2021, he is the Katowice finalist two times in a row and should have won his Code S over Cure. He was the best protoss of 2021 so this is not super surprising that he can win this ST Super surprising is not what I said. I already said I consider Zest to be one of the few Protoss with champion pedigree so of course I'm never gonna count him out as a non-contender. But expecting THIS result.... come on, I never would have put my money on this happening and I'd be surprised if anyone would have unless they just like losing money, If anything is a surprise it's how Zest continues to so effectively keep coming back despite never showing the kind of dominance other champions have. Maybe it's because he's so quiet and mature, maybe it's because of something else, I don't know. But Zest has somehow quietly managed to be one of the most consistently dominant players in SC2's history. It's impressive, it really is. Well Zest beating both Classic and Bunny is expected, and maybe Rogue would have beaten him but Zest already beat him in bo7 code S, so bo5 super tournament is not that big of a stretch. The only surprising result is him beating Maru convincingly but TvP is so volatile that even Cure lost 0-3 to Zoun so it’s actually not a surprise either. Dark was the favorite on his side of the bracket, but afaik his ZvP is not necessarily better than Rogue’s? If Serral was in place of Dark I would never bet on Zest for this ST, but with things how they were the favorites were Maru, Rogue, Zest, Dark imo There are 2 guys currently that I think Zest are considered as "underdog" against in a Bo5+ series, and they are Maru and Serral, Zest has at least a 50/50 chance against pretty much everybody else with his sharp build order and great game sense. I have a different opinion. Zest is the underdog vs Dark, Rogue, Trap, Cure, herO, Clem, and Reynor too. Zest's play style does not make me believe in his chances to win in the long run. He is kind of like Bunny. The secret builds are important and match deciding. The supply of hidden strategies is limited. Great macro, micro, and decision making can only take you so far when you are making big mistakes in every other series.
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On January 28 2022 00:30 Drfilip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2022 23:53 tigera6 wrote:On January 27 2022 22:01 Poopi wrote:On January 27 2022 21:56 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 27 2022 21:52 Poopi wrote:On January 27 2022 21:29 Vindicare605 wrote: You know it feels kind of bad to beat up on Trap when he didn't do well in this tournament, but this is what I mean about the championship pedigree that Zest has that Trap doesn't.
Trap was on top of the world for how long and in that time how many tournaments did he win? Like 2? And one of them was relatively minor?
Zest hasn't been relevant in at least a year and he just comes out of nowhere and bullshits his way to a tournament win, stepping over both Maru and Dark in some of their most dominant forms in the process. The guy knows how to be a champion, he just knows how to get it done.
Yea I know he's been dominating the weeklies but this is different. Like seriously, who before this tournament started called it that Zest was gonna do what he did?
He has actual champion pedigree. One of few current Protoss players that does. Zest won as much money as Trap in 2021, he is the Katowice finalist two times in a row and should have won his Code S over Cure. He was the best protoss of 2021 so this is not super surprising that he can win this ST Super surprising is not what I said. I already said I consider Zest to be one of the few Protoss with champion pedigree so of course I'm never gonna count him out as a non-contender. But expecting THIS result.... come on, I never would have put my money on this happening and I'd be surprised if anyone would have unless they just like losing money, If anything is a surprise it's how Zest continues to so effectively keep coming back despite never showing the kind of dominance other champions have. Maybe it's because he's so quiet and mature, maybe it's because of something else, I don't know. But Zest has somehow quietly managed to be one of the most consistently dominant players in SC2's history. It's impressive, it really is. Well Zest beating both Classic and Bunny is expected, and maybe Rogue would have beaten him but Zest already beat him in bo7 code S, so bo5 super tournament is not that big of a stretch. The only surprising result is him beating Maru convincingly but TvP is so volatile that even Cure lost 0-3 to Zoun so it’s actually not a surprise either. Dark was the favorite on his side of the bracket, but afaik his ZvP is not necessarily better than Rogue’s? If Serral was in place of Dark I would never bet on Zest for this ST, but with things how they were the favorites were Maru, Rogue, Zest, Dark imo There are 2 guys currently that I think Zest are considered as "underdog" against in a Bo5+ series, and they are Maru and Serral, Zest has at least a 50/50 chance against pretty much everybody else with his sharp build order and great game sense. I have a different opinion. Zest is the underdog vs Dark, Rogue, Trap, Cure, herO, Clem, and Reynor too. Zest's play style does not make me believe in his chances to win in the long run. He is kind of like Bunny. The secret builds are important and match deciding. The supply of hidden strategies is limited. Great macro, micro, and decision making can only take you so far when you are making big mistakes in every other series. Strong disagree here. the Zergs are debatable but Rogue isn't that scary outside of bo7 in ZvP and if he can beat Dark convincingly I think he should do well against Reynor too. And in PvP he is the most solid player imo
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On January 27 2022 21:19 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2022 21:17 deacon.frost wrote:On January 27 2022 21:15 swarminfestor wrote:On January 27 2022 21:13 Poopi wrote: Congratulations Zest, Goat protoss at work once again! Practice paid off, time to perform at Katowice Zest is highly favorite to win Katowice besides Rogue, Maru, Serral, Dark and Clem or Cure. Trap and Reynor, depend if they can work hard to improve their poor recent performances. Clem being a favorite for Kato? Why? I see him being a favorite for everything he enters despite never winning anything big. Same can be said for Maru going offline abroad really, but Clem is playing well maybe he can make something happen. I wouldn't have him as a favorite either, his tvz and tvt are looking too shaky
WESG is so undervalued it's ridiculous. It was the most important event to players besides Blizzcon.
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On January 28 2022 01:29 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2022 21:19 Nakajin wrote:On January 27 2022 21:17 deacon.frost wrote:On January 27 2022 21:15 swarminfestor wrote:On January 27 2022 21:13 Poopi wrote: Congratulations Zest, Goat protoss at work once again! Practice paid off, time to perform at Katowice Zest is highly favorite to win Katowice besides Rogue, Maru, Serral, Dark and Clem or Cure. Trap and Reynor, depend if they can work hard to improve their poor recent performances. Clem being a favorite for Kato? Why? I see him being a favorite for everything he enters despite never winning anything big. Same can be said for Maru going offline abroad really, but Clem is playing well maybe he can make something happen. I wouldn't have him as a favorite either, his tvz and tvt are looking too shaky WESG is so undervalued it's ridiculous. It was the most important event to players besides Blizzcon. Also, other than that sad year in 2019 where he got knocked out in the group stage, Maru did well in the other 2 IEM offline, losing to Rogue in the Ro4. So I dont think he should have any issue with the coming tournament even if its offline, aka no excuse if he blew it like Trap did last year. The only "excuse" I can see for Maru this time around is the Zerg favored map pool and he end up somehow playing the "dead lineup" of Zerg in the bracket stage.
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Zest's 2021 was great but there should be no doubt Trap was the best Protoss in 2021, overall; thus said, I agree with tigera6 about Zest's current form.
As for Maru, iirc he has never even reached the finals of an offline event outside of Asia(he won WESG in China and came second at IEM Taipei). It's clear that Maru could win Katowice(he reached the semifinals there twice before), it's also undeniable that he hasn't been as formidable playing abroad as when he plays in Korea(or not so far from Korea) throughout his whole career; maybe it's a coincidence but it's a ten year long coincidence.
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On January 28 2022 02:04 Xain0n wrote: Zest's 2021 was great but there should be no doubt Trap was the best Protoss in 2021, overall; thus said, I agree with tigera6 about Zest's current form.
As for Maru, iirc he has never even reached the finals of an offline event outside of Asia(he won WESG in China and came second at IEM Taipei). It's clear that Maru could win Katowice(he reached the semifinals there twice before), it's also undeniable that he hasn't been as formidable playing abroad as when he plays in Korea(or not so far from Korea) throughout his whole career; maybe it's a coincidence but it's a ten year long coincidence.
I mean, for most of maru's career he barely played outside of korea. That's like one of the things he is known for. It would make sense that he wouldn't be as successful outside of korea then
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On January 28 2022 02:20 Lokol18 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2022 02:04 Xain0n wrote: Zest's 2021 was great but there should be no doubt Trap was the best Protoss in 2021, overall; thus said, I agree with tigera6 about Zest's current form.
As for Maru, iirc he has never even reached the finals of an offline event outside of Asia(he won WESG in China and came second at IEM Taipei). It's clear that Maru could win Katowice(he reached the semifinals there twice before), it's also undeniable that he hasn't been as formidable playing abroad as when he plays in Korea(or not so far from Korea) throughout his whole career; maybe it's a coincidence but it's a ten year long coincidence. I mean, for most of maru's career he barely played outside of korea. That's like one of the things he is known for. It would make sense that he wouldn't be as successful outside of korea then Yeah, his 2019 IEM Katowice was a disaster but outside of that he did quite well in foreign tournaments, 2 times semifinals in Katowice, 1 time in Blizzcon. just unfortunate he didn't win one, in most of those finals he would've been favored if he made it there.
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Czech Republic12116 Posts
On January 28 2022 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2022 02:20 Lokol18 wrote:On January 28 2022 02:04 Xain0n wrote: Zest's 2021 was great but there should be no doubt Trap was the best Protoss in 2021, overall; thus said, I agree with tigera6 about Zest's current form.
As for Maru, iirc he has never even reached the finals of an offline event outside of Asia(he won WESG in China and came second at IEM Taipei). It's clear that Maru could win Katowice(he reached the semifinals there twice before), it's also undeniable that he hasn't been as formidable playing abroad as when he plays in Korea(or not so far from Korea) throughout his whole career; maybe it's a coincidence but it's a ten year long coincidence. I mean, for most of maru's career he barely played outside of korea. That's like one of the things he is known for. It would make sense that he wouldn't be as successful outside of korea then Yeah, his 2019 IEM Katowice was a disaster but outside of that he did quite well in foreign tournaments, 2 times semifinals in Katowice, 1 time in Blizzcon. just unfortunate he didn't win one, in most of those finals he would've been favored if he made it there. Well he did, but he never delivered. Which is the point. Maru is weaker outside of Asia(so people stop complaining about WESG where the hardest part for a Korean player was the Korean qualification). It's not that he's that bad, but imagine 2018/9 - he was about to win another Code S(or he just won his 4th) and yet he didn't deliver the WC crown. That's the whole point. He was the best player of 2018 and he gets smashed by sOs in the RO8 of Blizzcon.
Maru outside of Korea is much weaker. He delivers great games, no question about that, but not results. Case in point Maru v Dear Edit> Even the last IEM. Sure, he lost to the "future" winner Reynor, but what did Reynor do after that? Gone into hiding. What did Maru do? If Kato is offline Maru won't win it. Even in a great form he will run out of builds somewhere around the RO8/RO4. As is his standard.
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Just caught the games. Maru didn't look great but big congrats to Zest. Glad to see him win something and have some momentum going into probably his last tournament for now and maybe ever. It wouldn't surprise me if Zest doesnt return, I was actually a little surprised to see CJ Hero come back considering these guys have been grinding for so many years.
Zest is pretty much the last KT player still going in SC2 with Ty and Stats gone.
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France12482 Posts
On January 28 2022 03:27 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2022 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:On January 28 2022 02:20 Lokol18 wrote:On January 28 2022 02:04 Xain0n wrote: Zest's 2021 was great but there should be no doubt Trap was the best Protoss in 2021, overall; thus said, I agree with tigera6 about Zest's current form.
As for Maru, iirc he has never even reached the finals of an offline event outside of Asia(he won WESG in China and came second at IEM Taipei). It's clear that Maru could win Katowice(he reached the semifinals there twice before), it's also undeniable that he hasn't been as formidable playing abroad as when he plays in Korea(or not so far from Korea) throughout his whole career; maybe it's a coincidence but it's a ten year long coincidence. I mean, for most of maru's career he barely played outside of korea. That's like one of the things he is known for. It would make sense that he wouldn't be as successful outside of korea then Yeah, his 2019 IEM Katowice was a disaster but outside of that he did quite well in foreign tournaments, 2 times semifinals in Katowice, 1 time in Blizzcon. just unfortunate he didn't win one, in most of those finals he would've been favored if he made it there. Well he did, but he never delivered. Which is the point. Maru is weaker outside of Asia(so people stop complaining about WESG where the hardest part for a Korean player was the Korean qualification). It's not that he's that bad, but imagine 2018/9 - he was about to win another Code S(or he just won his 4th) and yet he didn't deliver the WC crown. That's the whole point. He was the best player of 2018 and he gets smashed by sOs in the RO8 of Blizzcon. Maru outside of Korea is much weaker. He delivers great games, no question about that, but not results. Case in point Maru v Dear Edit> Even the last IEM. Sure, he lost to the "future" winner Reynor, but what did Reynor do after that? Gone into hiding. What did Maru do? If Kato is offline Maru won't win it. Even in a great form he will run out of builds somewhere around the RO8/RO4. As is his standard. He is not weak outside of Korea, you just can't win everything lmao. Especially Blizzcon 2018, TvP was very hard in macro games but it was hidden by Maru's proxies; problem was that sOs helped him with these proxies so he knew how to handle them, Maru crumbled. It's not like other terrans did better than Maru outside of Korea, except for IEM 2019 where TY got one round further iirc (just got out of group stages).
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Czech Republic12116 Posts
On January 28 2022 03:36 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2022 03:27 deacon.frost wrote:On January 28 2022 02:58 Charoisaur wrote:On January 28 2022 02:20 Lokol18 wrote:On January 28 2022 02:04 Xain0n wrote: Zest's 2021 was great but there should be no doubt Trap was the best Protoss in 2021, overall; thus said, I agree with tigera6 about Zest's current form.
As for Maru, iirc he has never even reached the finals of an offline event outside of Asia(he won WESG in China and came second at IEM Taipei). It's clear that Maru could win Katowice(he reached the semifinals there twice before), it's also undeniable that he hasn't been as formidable playing abroad as when he plays in Korea(or not so far from Korea) throughout his whole career; maybe it's a coincidence but it's a ten year long coincidence. I mean, for most of maru's career he barely played outside of korea. That's like one of the things he is known for. It would make sense that he wouldn't be as successful outside of korea then Yeah, his 2019 IEM Katowice was a disaster but outside of that he did quite well in foreign tournaments, 2 times semifinals in Katowice, 1 time in Blizzcon. just unfortunate he didn't win one, in most of those finals he would've been favored if he made it there. Well he did, but he never delivered. Which is the point. Maru is weaker outside of Asia(so people stop complaining about WESG where the hardest part for a Korean player was the Korean qualification). It's not that he's that bad, but imagine 2018/9 - he was about to win another Code S(or he just won his 4th) and yet he didn't deliver the WC crown. That's the whole point. He was the best player of 2018 and he gets smashed by sOs in the RO8 of Blizzcon. Maru outside of Korea is much weaker. He delivers great games, no question about that, but not results. Case in point Maru v Dear Edit> Even the last IEM. Sure, he lost to the "future" winner Reynor, but what did Reynor do after that? Gone into hiding. What did Maru do? If Kato is offline Maru won't win it. Even in a great form he will run out of builds somewhere around the RO8/RO4. As is his standard. He is not weak outside of Korea, you just can't win everything lmao. Especially Blizzcon 2018, TvP was very hard in macro games but it was hidden by Maru's proxies; problem was that sOs helped him with these proxies so he knew how to handle them, Maru crumbled. It's not like other terrans did better than Maru outside of Korea, except for IEM 2019 where TY got one round further iirc (just got out of group stages). the point is he never. won. anything. That's the whole point. The exact same point applies for Trap v tier1 tournaments.
Edit> And this is not about "but other Terrans did the same or worse". Maru was the best Terran for years now. Maru won plenty of tournaments with the best players in them. Maru never won anything outside of Asia. I don't see how WESG which is basically identical time-zone(if not the same) applies to the fact Maru seems to have issues with travelling but whatever.
Maru is one of the best Terrans in the history of SC2. Yet he for some reason is weaker in the foreignerlands. TY won IEM. Byun won Blizzcon. Innovation is in the same boat
Edit 2> This is not shitting on Maru BTW. This is just stating why so many people think he won't win Katowice. Similarly many wouldn't consider Trap to win Katowice even if he was in a great form. Because the best he did in a "tier 1" tournament was 2nd. He's either cursed or otherwise blocked to win thes, unfortunately.
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Northern Ireland20802 Posts
I wonder if Zest doing well here and Trap doing badly will see them
Zest’s pattern has not been consistent excellence for years now, it’s underwhelming results into miracle runs and I wonder if he can buck that trend.
Trap seemed to wilt with being one of the favourites for last Kato and maybe he can mentally treat it as a free hit and hit his best form given his recent slump has lowered expectations.
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HELL YEAH! NEW PROTOSS CHAMPION FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2019!
And some of the games were exciting, too!
Absolutely ecstatic in this corner, I know it's Super Tournament and those don't correlate to Protoss performance in anything else, but I really feel optimistic right now. Good times are coming. Let's go!!!!
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