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On June 20 2018 22:31 JimmiC wrote: The Woj announcing that the Hornets are trading Howard to the Nets for mozgov. Which will save the nets 17 mil to set them up for 2 max spots in 19-20. That being said I have to assume the nets must be throwing in some sort of sweetners because mozgov is awful why would Charlotte want him???
Also, Gay declined his option with the spurs and Crawford with the twolves.
Mozgov + 2 second round futures. Still don't understand the deal from Charlotte's perspective.
Also wondering who the Kings will take at #2. I wish they'd take Doncic, but apparently Bagley is the only top tier player who hasn't told the Kings to basically fuck off, meaning they'll probably have to take Bagley. Which isn't the worst thing I guess. As long as they don't select MPJ at #2, I'll be okay.
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I'm starting to like the idea of taking away max contracts, but I a) worry about how that would take away the bottom half and b) we might still get teams with 3 30 million+ guys and a bunch of veteran ring chasers.
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taking away max contracts only benefit a small amount of players and take away from 99%, im not sure the PA would go for it
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On June 21 2018 11:08 zev318 wrote: taking away max contracts only benefit a small amount of players and take away from 99%, im not sure the PA would go for it I'm a huge fan of it for competitive balance, not so sure about it from players ranked 15-65 who would all probably be paid less instead of the stars.
I have no Idea how it would effect the "middle" and "lower" class players.
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Max contracts are, basically, 100% an intra-NBAPA issue. They don't affect the revenue splits at all, merely which players get the money. With Bron and CP3 running the union they massively increased the cap on max salaries, but net time they are at the table it might not be rich players in charge.
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Draft night!
I'm going to make 3 bold predictions for shits.
1: There will be a trade of a top 5 pick. 2. There will be at least one big name player traded not named Kawhi 3. There will be a minimum of 4 trades
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Hawks trading 3rd (donic) for the mavs 5th (trae young) and a future first.
Pretty sure this means hawks think they have a schroder trade.
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Maybe this is just me, but I feel like the majority of the top 10 draft picks will be nearly unplayable in playoff basketball games because they can't guard shit. Like, they need to either massively improve on defense, or be able to get 30 PPG.
#1 Example would be Bagley. People keep calling him "Possibly Chris Bosh" which is a lie because its "Chris Bosh without defense", which is really just a poor man's Kevin Love.
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I think shooting is a bigger detriment to playing end of game then defense. This is why you see guys like drummond on the bench and why Williams fell (43% ft) Right now the nba is far more about out scoring then it is defending.
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On June 22 2018 13:29 cLutZ wrote: Maybe this is just me, but I feel like the majority of the top 10 draft picks will be nearly unplayable in playoff basketball games because they can't guard shit. Like, they need to either massively improve on defense, or be able to get 30 PPG.
#1 Example would be Bagley. People keep calling him "Possibly Chris Bosh" which is a lie because its "Chris Bosh without defense", which is really just a poor man's Kevin Love.
I agree. The top teams in the playoffs are now all about efficient shooting and switch-y players who can guard wings. Most of the top 10 seem to belong to a decade ago.
I read up a bit on the glut of big men prospects at the top and their projected shooting ability is mostly theoretical.
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I feel like nothing's going to happen to big FA/trade candidates and they're all going to re-sign. Lebron, Leonard, PG, CP3 all stay :D (Leonard reluctantly of course)
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That would be surprising but possible. Jokic just signed his max extension with the Nuggets.
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I think one topic that wasn't really discussed is how the Cavs could have handled the Kyrie trade better. Obviously they traded down twice. What better assets could they have gotten. Could they have gotten Horford?
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On June 26 2018 01:26 Jerubaal wrote: I think one topic that wasn't really discussed is how the Cavs could have handled the Kyrie trade better. Obviously they traded down twice. What better assets could they have gotten. Could they have gotten Horford?
I think this is a bit of a hindsight is 20/20 thing. I think initial reaction was the pacers got fleeced for PG13 and the cavs did much better for Kyrie.
This is the first "trade grade" article I googled and they got a A+
https://www.si.com/nba/2017/08/22/kyrie-irving-isaiah-thomas-cavaliers-celtics-trade-grades-analysis
I don't think you can get Horford because Bos knows how important he is. IT would also become redundant with Kyrie there and missing Horford would completely disrupt them with no replacement.
IT being a complete bust to the extent he was I don't think was foreseeable. I think everyone was surprised how bad Crowder worked out for them, it appeared like Cavs had a huge need for a 3 and D guy and Crowder was thought to be one of the best. Then the Nets pick was a huge get. At that point I think everyone thought it would be top 3 is a good class. But the Nets went out and were only the 8th worst. But 8th pick is still pretty good.
So I think it wasn't a terrible trade for the Cavs, it just worked out about as bad as it possibly could. Long term it pretty much hinges on either Kyrie being injured all the time or this Sexton pick knocking it out of the park.
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2 out of the 3 finalists for coach of the year are there for losing Gordon Hayward.
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And the winner got fired and is already hired on another team!
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Gratz to Dwane Casey on winning coach of the year. Well deserved. Toronto has zero top 4 draft picks. 1 top 5 pick in Jonas Valaciunas. Toronto signed zero big time free agents.
Casey's entire tenure in Toronto has been very, very good. A class act.
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I dont think his firing was about his performance, it was about the irrational expectations for the team in the playoffs and the GM wanting his own guy before he ends up getting fired.
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Because the Raptors GM has an incredibly low profile a lot of people don't know this... Bobby Webster is the GM. Masai Ujiri is teh Prez of BBall Ops.
Based on the published reports about the hiring process I'd say the coach is Ujiri's hire with Webster providing some input into the decision.
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