On September 26 2017 04:26 SartPls wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2017 04:07 art_of_turtle wrote:he isn't wrong though. all agressive builds like that are about the bo3 bo5 and having a strong 5p is very important. as well as teaching you to value every ling you have.
you really have 3 different styles of play.
Hero's style with 3h hydra pressure into 6 hatch Hydra
Larva's 3h spire 6 h Hydra
Effort's 4h before gas (and 4h before pool kinda sorta)
https://youtu.be/DmeOl0bdkEQ?t=19m20s3h spire into 5h Hydra is a bit outdated now that the protoss's have been watching Bisu with the 1 gate expand and have become very comfortable with single zealot pressure and placing them in awkward positions
I didn't wanna say 5 pool isn't a viable build. But it isn't a "standard approach" to ZvP, no? Like you said, it's more suited for Best of X series. Thanks for posting the video on 4 hatch before gas btw, it's a build that I've very rarely encountered on ladder yet, so nothing I was really familiar with.
Another question, hope you don't mind: Would you say 3 base spire into 6 hatch hydra is so vastly different to the 5 hatch hydra version that it can really be considered it's own build order? Or is it just a reaction to the common Neo Bisu Build? I always considered it just a slightly more commiting version of the same thing. Also if it "counters" the Neo Bisu Build, has there already been a valid response from Protoss players to it?
Thanks in advance for the reply!