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This is pure theorycrafting for when I reread my filter.
I don't think TW is mafia with geript. I don't think rayn is mafia with geript. Due to geripts first 2 posts.
I think if geript is town, rayn might be mafia. Which makes it that geript is completely off track. Which makes it annoying for me to read him town. Which makes it hard to catch rayn. Luckily some people are townreading rayn so I shouldn't worry too much about this.
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I think there is a decent chance Artanis is mafia.
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On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. 1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given 2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx 3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing
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Town for a very long time: Damdred
Going to read them town for now: LightningStrike Vivax HF
LS. looks innocent. He should stop being mainly innocent and try to solve the game more active though. Vivax. Fooled me once with superb play on D1. If he shows the same commitment like he did yesterday today he is lock town. HF. Probably lock town as well. Bad reasoned read on me off the gate. And then was mediocre active. Needs to upgrade his activeness to become town. I think it is a bit too low atm.
Very very slight townread: Artanis[Xp] Tumblewood
Going to accept them as potential town but I don't know why, most likely because I don't want to call them mafia just yet. raynpelikoneet Skynx
MIA Oatsmaster ruXxar
Mafia Geript
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On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. 1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given 2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx 3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing His read on you is better explained. I agree that the analysis yesterday was lacking.
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On August 25 2017 09:34 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 08:42 Holyflare wrote: that post says entirely nothing geript You don't find it interesting that Koshi is calling me scum both for noticing his posting and for not noticing his posting? That's not in any way weird about it? IDK if I explained it well the first time. Like let me explain it this way. Koshi is scumreading me for, at 6:14, posting this: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird. 1/20 I am posting about TW's post: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else That post is here on page 10 at 5:47. Koshi's first relevant post on the subject is: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:49 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:48 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:46 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:45 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. rayn told them to. Nha they left earlier. Meh. It's good that you stayed. Didn't like that Vivax/TW/LS aren't mafia with Koshi line tbh. But I like that you are posting and trying to solve the game. You are fine for now. Got anything you want to discuss? You guys are preventing me from doing anything else right now. I'd be happy if i was allowed to go back and read others aswell. That is what I am implying with that post. Let's do something else. rayn still wants you to explain why you wrote that line though. But he is devolving the initial situation into something else and I don't like it anymore. That post is here at 5:49. Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for something I couldn't even have read if I'm following the thread in any kind of reasonable way. Like Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for how he reads Rayn in when the whole Skynx situation doesn't even really resolve until my first post is already made. Like that's a really fucking weird argument to be making. It's strikes a bunch on the idea of, "You'll scumread me for the right reasons." Like you should be scumreading me at point A for what I do at point B when point B follows point A. I think Koshi is saying you shouldn't be scumreading him (anymore) as you have assumedly caught up with the thread when you made your post where you called him mafia and me town. Idk what you're trying to say here.
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Town for a very long time Damdred
Going to read them town for now LightningStrike (looks innocent. He should stop being mainly innocent and try to solve the game more active though.) Vivax (Fooled me once with superb play on D1. If he shows the same commitment like he did yesterday today he is lock town.) HF (Probably lock town as well. Bad reasoned read on me off the gate. And then was mediocre active. Needs to upgrade his activeness to become town. I think it is a bit too low atm. )
Going to accept them as potential town but I don't know why, most likely because I don't want to call them mafia. raynpelikoneet Skynx
Very very slight townread Artanis[Xp] Tumblewood
MIA Oatsmaster ruXxar
Mafia Geript
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On August 25 2017 17:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. 1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given 2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx 3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing His read on you is better explained. I agree that the analysis yesterday was lacking. So you are saying you have a townread on Artanis because he can correctly townread me (when you for example can't).... weaaaakkkkkk.
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On August 25 2017 17:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think there is a decent chance Artanis is mafia. I think there is exactly 0% chance
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On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. 1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given 2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx 3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing Since when have my reads been based on your type of reasoning, Raynieface? It's been feels for a long time.
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Also the 2nd point is not true. My townread on you was based on your interactions with Skynx. Plus Skynx has been talked about so much already that there's not much point going over the same shit over and over again. There's 150 matches searching for his name right now.
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On August 25 2017 17:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 17:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. 1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given 2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx 3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing His read on you is better explained. I agree that the analysis yesterday was lacking. So you are saying you have a townread on Artanis because he can correctly townread me (when you for example can't).... weaaaakkkkkk. very very weak like I explained.
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On August 25 2017 15:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can you guys let me talk to Skynx just for a couple of minutes please? I think this is very unlikely to come from scum rayn btw. It indicates to me he has something he really wants to pursue which is a townie mindset. As scum, he'd be happy to have town keep up the pressure while he's asking him questions, but he just wants to find out Skynx' alignment. You could argue that they could both be mafia, but that doesn't make any sense either. Mafia coming in to say 'hey town, shut up, I want to talk to my scumbuddy'? Don't believe it.
Sooo you know that game you literally just hosted?
On August 20 2017 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2017 02:20 Holyflare wrote: He told you why he thinks geript is mafia right in that post you quoted.
Geript thinks he's mafia because of the reasons I think he's mafia but rels knows geript has no respect for his town play so he shouldn't be able to call him mafia if this is what geript expects.
Except rels has done actually scummy things so it's perfectly valid for geript to think what he does. can you shut up for a while please?
On August 20 2017 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let him talk fo fucks sake, this is why you make me so fucking annoyed i wanna throw a dart into your face HF.....
Come on artanis. This is all crazy subpar from you.
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I think Skynx is mafia because his reasoning for what he said earlier doesn't add up (he was basically lying). Also what Holyflare said. I honestly didn't catch up on what HF said before he said it, i was looking for something else on him, which i got an answer to when he said he was actually doing something else his posts say.
I don't have any reason to townread Koshi and unfortunately that almost always makes him mafia.
I think Artanis has a decent chance of being mafia.
I don't know why i -- or anyone should townread Vivax at this point.
Holyflare is being smart - town. Damdred is probably town. LS is town. Barring one thing Tumblewood too but i am still gonna check that tonight just to be sure and, geript... Meh.. idk, i tend to not read geript's posts at all since whenever i try i come to a wrong conclusion like 75% of the time. At some point i developed a decent way of reading him and i am gonna use it this game.
Anyways heading to work now, i should be back at 8-9pm cest. Dunno if i have an easy day or not, but i'll at least read what i can during work.
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On August 25 2017 17:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 15:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can you guys let me talk to Skynx just for a couple of minutes please? I think this is very unlikely to come from scum rayn btw. It indicates to me he has something he really wants to pursue which is a townie mindset. As scum, he'd be happy to have town keep up the pressure while he's asking him questions, but he just wants to find out Skynx' alignment. You could argue that they could both be mafia, but that doesn't make any sense either. Mafia coming in to say 'hey town, shut up, I want to talk to my scumbuddy'? Don't believe it. Sooo you know that game you literally just hosted? Show nested quote +On August 20 2017 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 20 2017 02:20 Holyflare wrote: He told you why he thinks geript is mafia right in that post you quoted.
Geript thinks he's mafia because of the reasons I think he's mafia but rels knows geript has no respect for his town play so he shouldn't be able to call him mafia if this is what geript expects.
Except rels has done actually scummy things so it's perfectly valid for geript to think what he does. can you shut up for a while please? Show nested quote +On August 20 2017 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let him talk fo fucks sake, this is why you make me so fucking annoyed i wanna throw a dart into your face HF..... Come on artanis. This is all crazy subpar from you. If I got a euro every time someone called me subpar I'd be pretty rich.
I did forget about that situation, though it was fairly different in tone. He's much less aggressive in his approach this game and it's about someone actually in the thread. Don't think he would be as 'laid back' for rayn terms if he rolled scum twice in a row.
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On August 25 2017 05:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:45 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. rayn told them to. Nha they left earlier. Meh. It's good that you stayed. Didn't like that Vivax/TW/LS aren't mafia with Koshi line tbh. But I like that you are posting and trying to solve the game. You are fine for now.
Got anything you want to discuss?
Please tell me this was a sentence of courtesy cause he was just answering questions that arose from his really weird conclusion. Seemed more like a ball in a flipper rather than someone solving the game tbh. So I don't see how he was solving the game. Showing effort, sure. But given he was just looking for your scum games it was pretty misguided or fake effort.
Sorry if this seems harsh (and ofc not answering at all would be worse), but I'd expect more bonus content behind his thought process and a firm conclusion and explanation without everyone trying to pull it out from him.
Basically he seems really afraid to derp and say something wrong since he keeps everything to a minimum imho.
He feels ganged up but doesn't think there's mafia among it which is very defensive. And I really still don't get how he can read people town for asking him to read Koshi town games as well. Doesn't make sense to me.
It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point.
If Koshi is their teammate, why should they ignore it when you were only checking his scum games and making a mistake? Doesn't seem logical to not jump on you if an opportunity presents itself in this case.
On August 25 2017 06:20 Holyflare wrote: skynx thinking is so arse backwards it's insane
you don't conclude that koshi does this thing as town too and then make a further conclusion that people calling him out on it are all town if koshi is mafia
you see that your conclusion means he could be either and that those posts could make those people mafia because:
A) they're calling him out for meta without knowing the conclusion (could be an instance of tmi) B) they're piggybacking off of earlier point raised by vivax but 15 minutes later
if you read someone as null after the conclusion you don't go back to thinking he's mafia and making conclusions based off of that
And this ^
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Yeah rayn is becoming more and more likely town. His D1 has been lacking for a while now. It's ok.
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You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool.
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On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote: You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running.
You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
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On August 25 2017 17:36 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:46 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:45 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. rayn told them to. Nha they left earlier. Meh. It's good that you stayed. Didn't like that Vivax/TW/LS aren't mafia with Koshi line tbh. But I like that you are posting and trying to solve the game. You are fine for now.
Got anything you want to discuss? Please tell me this was a sentence of courtesy cause he was just answering questions that arose from his really weird conclusion. Maybe it was. I'll admit that my feels on Skynx are not townie. More like... w.e let's move on and lynch him if we can't find better later.
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