• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:16
CET 02:16
KST 10:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage1Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16 [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RSL S3 ro16 [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck? Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
AI is so fuckin funny
Peanutsc
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 845 users

[M][N] Names Are Hard 2 - Page 19

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 131 Next
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 09:14 GMT
#361
Geript break down this koshi read into small bullet points. I'm not reading your walls of text again.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2017 09:20 GMT
#362
Last time he called me mafia because I both said:
1) Geript is mafia for not having an opinion on thread leaders when he came back.
2) Geript is mafia for saying Koshi is mafia based on a townread on rayn.

Which in his eyes makes it so that I scumread him both for not having an opinion and having an opinion on thread leaders.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 09:20 GMT
#363
On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.

I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool.

Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running.

You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.



Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.


I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because?

None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open.

There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia?

Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely.


There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie?

So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled?

Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 09:21 GMT
#364
On August 25 2017 18:20 Koshi wrote:
Last time he called me mafia because I both said:
1) Geript is mafia for not having an opinion on thread leaders when he came back.
2) Geript is mafia for saying Koshi is mafia based on a townread on rayn.

Which in his eyes makes it so that I scumread him both for not having an opinion and having an opinion on thread leaders.


I mean it's not wrong. It's not a write an essay about reason though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
August 25 2017 09:21 GMT
#365
On August 25 2017 18:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 17:58 Vivax wrote:
And geript ACTUALLY posted a townie seal, why is he even up for discussion. 100 % confirmed town. No, 90% for adding a lot of text I will read later. But it really wasn't necessary with the seal.


Has he ever posted it before?


No idea but the idea is so abstruse to think of as mafia that I have to take it at face value.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2017 09:34 GMT
#366
On August 25 2017 18:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 18:20 Koshi wrote:
Last time he called me mafia because I both said:
1) Geript is mafia for not having an opinion on thread leaders when he came back.
2) Geript is mafia for saying Koshi is mafia based on a townread on rayn.

Which in his eyes makes it so that I scumread him both for not having an opinion and having an opinion on thread leaders.


I mean it's not wrong. It's not a write an essay about reason though.

Meh. I think it is wrong. I explained my scumread way better.

The problem is that 1 and 2 didn't happen at the same time.
He came into the thread with 1. And only conjured 2 after getting pressured by rayn.

My scumread comes from teh fact that he should have entered the thread with 2 without having to get pressure first.


It's fine. I am pretty sure geript is mafia but I am wrong sometimes. But I am pretty pretty sure.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 09:37 GMT
#367
On March 05 2014 09:06 geript wrote:
Ok so here's the post I was working on. I have to head to work. I wish I could fight this further, but ever since I heard about being able to post baby seals I've wanted so badly. You got me. I don't think I could've gotten to endgame regardless because of how much I bus my partners. At least I had Rayn in my pocket; I really shouldn't have killed him.
+ Show Spoiler +
Original Message From geript:
NO U
[image loading]


This post is entirely facetious btw. He was town in the game.

Either way he's only posted it once that I could find from digging and he was town and he felt bad because it was cheap but he meant it when he posted it.

Cool free town read.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2017 09:42 GMT
#368
Really? Dnu. I can still see him having thought about it to do it last game but not needing it. And now that he needs it post it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 09:42 GMT
#369
What does that even mean? Where does he even hint at that last game?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 09:43 GMT
#370
If you can't post where I'm gonna scum read you btw
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2017 09:44 GMT
#371
Not at all. I am just saying. I can see him use it as mafia this game.
Also. Him posting that seal + an essay on why he is town doesn't make it more believable.


For me he is still mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2017 09:45 GMT
#372
On August 25 2017 18:43 Holyflare wrote:
If you can't post where I'm gonna scum read you btw

It's fine. Just makes me so much better than you people when the results come in.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2017 09:47 GMT
#373
So Ruxxar is dropping hard into scum territory. Can make a post. Can't read thread. Used to be able to post too much every time every day.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 09:47 GMT
#374
Artanis and skynx aren't mafia together. It has been decided.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 09:48 GMT
#375
But they're both still mafia. Impossible I know.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 09:51 GMT
#376
On August 25 2017 18:44 Koshi wrote:
Not at all. I am just saying. I can see him use it as mafia this game.
Also. Him posting that seal + an essay on why he is town doesn't make it more believable.


For me he is still mafia.


Pretty true though.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 25 2017 09:53 GMT
#377
1. Koshi scumreads me for a very clever TW read + Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Like... I dislike the fact geript comes in townreads TW lazy as fuck. I don't care if he does it in other games, the fact he does it in this game is wrong. Especially the way he did it.

2. Koshi is misrepresenting the whole argument; it's not about Skynx being "stupid" it's about how Rayn pushes random stupid NAI shit as town and eats that shit up
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2017 06:24 Koshi wrote:
if he is town. Dnu why I am mafia for disagreeing with rayn lynching "stupid".
Dnu why Skynx is "stupid" and not just mafia. Dnu why you are not discussing Skynx.

3. Koshi Keeps on moving the target of what I should be talking about to call me scum
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2017 06:24 Koshi wrote:
Dnu why you are not discussing Skynx.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe.

4. Koshi is misrepresenting my scum play as "lazy" in order to call me scum+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

5. Koshi is arguing town!me would both post about a vet and not post about a vet
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

6. Koshi is being super lazy with his reading of the thread and is taking things out of context of the thread + Show Spoiler +
See post on timings
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2017 09:58 GMT
#378
On August 25 2017 18:53 geript wrote:
1. Koshi scumreads me for a very clever TW read + Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Like... I dislike the fact geript comes in townreads TW lazy as fuck. I don't care if he does it in other games, the fact he does it in this game is wrong. Especially the way he did it.

2. Koshi is misrepresenting the whole argument; it's not about Skynx being "stupid" it's about how Rayn pushes random stupid NAI shit as town and eats that shit up
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2017 06:24 Koshi wrote:
if he is town. Dnu why I am mafia for disagreeing with rayn lynching "stupid".
Dnu why Skynx is "stupid" and not just mafia. Dnu why you are not discussing Skynx.

3. Koshi Keeps on moving the target of what I should be talking about to call me scum
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2017 06:24 Koshi wrote:
Dnu why you are not discussing Skynx.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe.

4. Koshi is misrepresenting my scum play as "lazy" in order to call me scum+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

5. Koshi is arguing town!me would both post about a vet and not post about a vet
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

6. Koshi is being super lazy with his reading of the thread and is taking things out of context of the thread + Show Spoiler +
See post on timings

/shrug
I am playmaker this game, or at least attempting to do so. I do what I do to figure out the game.
I know my play tends to be all over the place, filled with minor inconsistencies. But overall I should be perceived pretty townie.

Maybe you are a "I don't understand x so x must be scum" kinda player. But people thinking I am mafia when I play like this always baffle me. You are in good company with rayn though.

We will see.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2017 10:00 GMT
#379
pro-tip for mafia:

I will be active for 8 more hours. After that I will basically be non existent. Try to lynch other town today, I am probably out of reach, push for me tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 25 2017 10:02 GMT
#380
Oatsmaster, Ruxxar, Geript

I think I am lynching into this. If town wants Skynx it will be without my support.
I had a good night of sleep.
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 131 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
01:00
#56
CranKy Ducklings50
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
CosmosSc2 69
Nathanias 54
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 6007
Artosis 705
Shuttle 620
NaDa 36
Dota 2
monkeys_forever194
Counter-Strike
fl0m1074
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox377
Other Games
summit1g11813
Grubby1826
Day[9].tv418
FrodaN290
C9.Mang0208
Maynarde104
ViBE62
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick823
Counter-Strike
PGL195
Other Games
BasetradeTV96
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 126
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21338
• Noizen20
League of Legends
• Doublelift4223
Other Games
• Scarra531
• Day9tv418
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 44m
WardiTV Korean Royale
10h 44m
LAN Event
13h 44m
OSC
21h 44m
The PondCast
1d 8h
LAN Event
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
LAN Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.