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It depends. If he doesn't come back/comes back weak it is with my support.
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And why don't we have your support when you said the points were good?
And why no artanis?
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Because I can. I don't want to lynch Artanis because he could be an honest townie.
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Nah that's bs. Your filter is littered with skynx being mafia and using people not talking about skynx to mafia read them.
Now you want to lynch 2 afkers and a guy who posted townie seal?
Koshi you're mafia man. Sucks.
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Sure thing. That makes complete sense.
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On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all???
Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective.
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Yeah I am not against that read.
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That is pretty good analysis btw Artanis. Your skynxread.
Question remains. Did you do it as mafia. Always easier to do better analysis as mafia.
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On August 25 2017 19:35 Koshi wrote:
That is pretty good analysis btw Artanis. Your skynxread.
Question remains. Did you do it as mafia. Always easier to do better analysis as mafia.
I did plenty of mediocre analysis before though. You said so yourself.
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On August 25 2017 19:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 19:35 Koshi wrote:
That is pretty good analysis btw Artanis. Your skynxread.
Question remains. Did you do it as mafia. Always easier to do better analysis as mafia. I did plenty of mediocre analysis before though. You said so yourself.
This true. This true.
The balance makes me happy.
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On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective.
I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong.
Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong??
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It's totally different if this was day 2 and he'd been scum reading koshi for a while and was biased towards koshi being scum which is what I think you're getting at. But this was his second post in the game and by the third his theory had gone. That was his only suspicion of koshi. No other reason.
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Nha it is because I am willing to step back and look at the big picture and not get fixated on 1 little sentence. 1 sentence this thread has said way too much about it already.
We all read it. We all made up our mind. Keep battering on it if you are bad. Look for other things if you want to be a somewhat decent player.
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I did, you're mafia 
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Also the thing is I don't care about skynx and this has nothing to do with skynx. I'm trying to get a read on artanis and why he thinks this way when there's no to support the narrative he's pushing.
It makes skynx town after all if artanis is mafia.
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What narrative? It is his view on the event lol.
If Artanis is mafia and skynx town it still is his view from a TMI point.
w.e
I am happy in my Oats/Ruxxar/geript world.
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The narrative that somehow skynx was so stubborn with his mafia read from his first post even after he disproved himself in his second so much so that his whole world revolved around you being mafia still.
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Did someone hit you with a stupid stick? If artanis' view is tmi it would be good to know that he's mafia don't you think?
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On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective. I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong. Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong??
Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town.
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Nha. I can see town!Skynx make that post.
I think it is more likely Skynx is town than Artanis at this point.
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