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On May 11 2017 22:35 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 22:33 LightningStrike wrote:On May 11 2017 22:32 Vivax wrote:I don't think you can say that skynx has been afk. And I don't want to make a call on HF yet. I just want to make sure he doesn't mess around with the wagons at deadline Let me reprhase that for you: More afk relative to the rest of the game. He has been active enough to be readable of sort, DF too. Fuba would be afk enough not to be readable. If you say but I doubt it will be clear who their partner are if the yare scum that my biggest concern lynching afkish players.
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Some day I want the entire scum team to be team afk lurk and watch them win with the excuse that nobody wanted to lynch afk players. I can dream.
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Ok HF, here's something you have to understand about me.
I automatically focus on the people who are giving me the most shit if I feel that it is unjustified. Then afterwards I have to come back and try to focus on the people I haven't paid much attention to because I haven't noticed their shit because it hasn't been directed to me.
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On May 11 2017 22:37 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 22:35 Vivax wrote:On May 11 2017 22:33 LightningStrike wrote:On May 11 2017 22:32 Vivax wrote:I don't think you can say that skynx has been afk. And I don't want to make a call on HF yet. I just want to make sure he doesn't mess around with the wagons at deadline Let me reprhase that for you: More afk relative to the rest of the game. He has been active enough to be readable of sort, DF too. Fuba would be afk enough not to be readable. If you say but I doubt it will be clear who their partner are if the yare scum that my biggest concern lynching afkish players.
That seems like a weak argument or could you tell me who HFs partners were ->from his filter<- if we lynched HF now and he flipped scum???
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On May 11 2017 22:35 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 22:31 Holyflare wrote:On May 11 2017 22:28 Grackaroni wrote:On May 11 2017 22:22 Holyflare wrote:On May 11 2017 21:19 Holyflare wrote: Well grack definitely can be. I just haven't really looked into anything. Everything he does is weird though. He says df/vivax definitely contains mafia, spends no real time talking about them and votes you instead.
He was super submissive to rayn.
He spent all that time basically trying to outline to me that your and df's points were different and he had no conclusion on me, you or df other than "people's conclusions can be different" and was just basically arguing for the sake of it.
His interactions with me are all defensive.
Underwhelming, definitely, scummy motivation, maybe? You've definitely got under his skin at least. Oh Palmar shot off three posts in a row that seemed really bad to me, like he wasn't actually evaluating anything. The point I was making was that you were citing both Palmar and DF's points to scum read me when they were completely contradictory, which it seemed like you recognized when you said that you didn't actually agree with Palmar's argument. Trying to use both just because they share the same conclusion is just scummy imo. Also I don't see how I am underwhelming, you stole what Rayn/I said to form a fuba town read and that was one of your only two reads. The other one is one that pretty much everyone else said. I have no qualms with being called underwhelming though lol. And this post just highlights what I'm confused about you. You're still stating it's scummy yet everyone you have wanted to lynch (vivax/df/palmar/damdred) are not me. Your posts don't match your other posts. Where is the conclusion and vote? Why have you stopped 24/7 scum reading me like normal? You might be scum. I feel like you're one of the only one's that's actually putting time in thread to try to read me though, so even if you may be scum you're still coming off as townier than some other people.
Wut. So basically you are just hedging?
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On May 11 2017 22:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 22:37 LightningStrike wrote:On May 11 2017 22:35 Vivax wrote:On May 11 2017 22:33 LightningStrike wrote:On May 11 2017 22:32 Vivax wrote:I don't think you can say that skynx has been afk. And I don't want to make a call on HF yet. I just want to make sure he doesn't mess around with the wagons at deadline Let me reprhase that for you: More afk relative to the rest of the game. He has been active enough to be readable of sort, DF too. Fuba would be afk enough not to be readable. If you say but I doubt it will be clear who their partner are if the yare scum that my biggest concern lynching afkish players. That seems like a weak argument or could you tell me who HFs partners were ->from his filter<- if we lynched HF now and he flipped scum??? Maybe 1 afk player and someone else but idk just yet but I pretty sure he would need his carry pants on as scum at this point because of that.
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We do still got plenty of time at least to figure that out.
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Sorry for "flying under the radar." Yesterday my friends and I drove back from South Carolina and it took 11 hours so I couldn't be particularly active. I'm gonna catch up and actually play today
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These are the reasons why I'm looking at Damdred over some other coin flips.
On May 11 2017 06:34 Damdred wrote: I powered through the thread while I was up.
To start off questions
@PrisonBreak (I believe), my initial assessment of LS scum etc was a joke. My follow up post of Rayns towniness was not a joke, it came from sort of bad reasoning as he can fake it potentially as scum. But I really liked that his first post was trying to discern who you were so that (presumably) he could better read you and come to a better conclusion. I would generally see thi scome from more town than scum as scum would not want that information really to come to life. But as I said it is partially a bad reason at that point.
As to people who said Damdred can do this as scum, YES! I can, I have and I will do it as both alignments. I've always tried to shape my game where I can do whatever I want from solving the game (or trying to), giving up teammates etc as either alignment. Though I know I still have some ticks as mafia I have a hard time getting rid of. But kind of meh about DF (I believe it was) who only looked at me negatively because of it.
As for my reads here we are:
These are the people i'm ok reading town currently
LS Rayn Palmar Prison Break Skynx
Maybe town: Grack HF
I would normally want to make a call about tumble, and my initial reaction to some of his off the collar commentary I think would come from his town game rather than his scum game. But I am horrid at looking at him so i'm just kind of ignoring him currently.
I disliked DF so far, Vivax has been awkward in some of his postings so far but I am not sure that it makes him scum currently.
Fuba is someone also that I think might be worth a look into later, initial reaction was he might be town just as a gut feeling. His reasoning for following PB I felt was a bit lakluster and was something i've seen mafia do to shift the blame to the person they sheep instead of taking personal responbility for it. Also him refusing to post reads to push the game forward bothered me, or rather him thinking they wouldn't push the game forward. I still sort of see him as a big bag of blah null for now.
Currently I just kind of want to lynch DF for some below average postings for him and him picking on me :'( #1) Why did he town read Skynx? Is there something Skynx did that he found particularly townie or is he just town reading the most active people that aren't under pressure?
#2) Does he really care that DF said:
On May 10 2017 22:28 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2017 08:10 Damdred wrote: Probably right, I missed you and your witty love HF.
I kinda think Rayn is town for a bad reason that has no real basis Scum scum scummy
Or is that forced? It seems like a strange response to me considering DF's original post and I seem to remember someone making a read on Damdred based on frowny faces before.
#3 Overall the post seems pretty blah to me. There's some fluff at the top and then mostly non-conclusions with not much catching his interest.
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maybe we just lynch TW and when he flips scum we lynch HF for TMI
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On May 11 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote: You don't plan shenannies, they just happen. I have a few people I'd like to lynch/wouldn't care about flipping though so I'll see how it goes.
Don't actually know when deadline is.
Earlier you said you would only consider TW/rayn and no one else. What's changed to open your mind to others, and who are they?
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I also find it ironic that rayn is using mostly a meta read on me while criticizing me for using a meta read on grack. For the record, I'm starting to feel better about Grack. Maybe he shouldn't be the lynch. Probably not actually.
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On May 11 2017 23:25 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote: You don't plan shenannies, they just happen. I have a few people I'd like to lynch/wouldn't care about flipping though so I'll see how it goes.
Don't actually know when deadline is. Earlier you said you would only consider TW/rayn and no one else. What's changed to open your mind to others, and who are they?
The rest of the game my friend.
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On May 11 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote: Df keeps getting mentioned but nobody says any reasons why. I don't like it.
Damdred why did you say you didn't like df but then went oit of your way to post a post you did like? Which is basically 20% of his filter anyway. It seems weird to me like you're trying to prove you have similar reads to me.
Damdred relevance ^
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I think HF is probably town. Or he's buddying the shit out of me. He's probably good enough to do either, but I appreciate that he saw the validity in my post on grack. I'm still waiting on a case from him why TW is the lynch.
Idk what to think about rayn. On one hand he feels equally "shutting up the thread and blowing up when someone insinuates he's not the best mafia player of all time," as he does when he's town. On the other, he's doing a terrible push on me that is based off of one post that actually DOES have merit and trying to discredit me for it. Like there are plenty of other question marks in my mind (LS, Damdred, Skynx, fuba to name the major ones) yet he doesn't seem to care about them at all and only goes after me, which is smart if he's mafia because 1) he doesn't know I'll be active today so active rayn > inactive df and I get ML 2) I'm pretty good at not getting mislynched (only happened in the cell game) so killing me D1 is an added ML bonus. I'm starting to feel like HF v rayn could be TvS but I'm a pussy so I'm gonna try to find mafia elsewhere before I commit to that
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I'm also feeling that Vivax is decently townie right now but I haven't had the chance to filter dive.
Palmar is starting to make me nervous
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If anyone has questions for me, fire away. I'm an open book titled "If ya mislynch me, ya dun goofed." So ask my friends!
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On May 11 2017 23:39 darthfoley wrote: If anyone has questions for me, fire away. I'm an open book titled "If ya mislynch me, ya dun goofed." So ask my friends!
Can you take a look at skynx and tell me if I'm onto something cause my caselet on him is being ignored and I would like to know if it's cause he's really scum or my points are really bad from another perspective.
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eh gtg, hope ill be around at eod
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so we're doing end of day.
I give this a 5% chance of succeeding.
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