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On June 16 2013 15:23 ETisME wrote: it's not like ps4 did anything that awesome, it's just xbox one failed hard lol
This is true. Xbox seems to be digging themselves deeper and deeper into a Hole..And if recent twitter updates are anything to go by..They want to go even deeper.
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On June 16 2013 15:28 pyro19 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 15:23 ETisME wrote: it's not like ps4 did anything that awesome, it's just xbox one failed hard lol This is true. Xbox seems to be digging themselves deeper and deeper into a Hole..And if recent twitter updates are anything to go by..They want to go even deeper. Well, the Xbox360 success in the US make MS become very arrogant just like Sony were after the PS2 era. MS didn't realize that most of Xbox360 owners most likely previous owners of Sony systems so its very easy for them to switch back.
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xbox thread gets 150+ pages while ps4 thread gets fewer than 10 pages... while xbox one hasn't been getting favorable reviews, ps4 seems to generate no enthusiasm whatsoever. Maybe MS learned from Apple and Facebook that they'd rather prefer hatred than apathy
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lol because people were also talking about the ps4 in that thread pre-e3 2013, and this thread was only made post e3
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On June 16 2013 18:07 dongmydrum wrote: xbox thread gets 150+ pages while ps4 thread gets fewer than 10 pages... while xbox one hasn't been getting favorable reviews, ps4 seems to generate no enthusiasm whatsoever. Maybe MS learned from Apple and Facebook that they'd rather prefer hatred than apathy This ps4 thread is 3 days old. Angry people post like 15 times more than ok/nice/satisfied people. All angry people are in the xbox one thread.
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I know PS4 isn't backwards compatible.. but does anyone know if you will be allowed to port your games over from PS3 to PS4 somehow? Either by some disc check or with your PS account? Or do they expect you to rebuy your old games through the PSN Store? Maybe it will be backwards compatible with Gaikai?(Not even sure what Gaikai does tbh).
Does anyone know anything about this? I'm trying to decide if I should keep buying PS3 titles or just wait for PS4 and till they get available there... Games like the new FF X-HD X-2-HD, Lightning Returns, Last Of Us etc...
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On June 16 2013 19:54 DwD wrote: I know PS4 isn't backwards compatible.. but does anyone know if you will be allowed to port your games over from PS3 to PS4 somehow? Either by some disc check or with your PS account? Or do they expect you to rebuy your old games through the PSN Store? Maybe it will be backwards compatible with Gaikai?(Not even sure what Gaikai does tbh).
Does anyone know anything about this? I'm trying to decide if I should keep buying PS3 titles or just wait for PS4 and till they get available there... Games like the new FF X-HD X-2-HD, Lightning Returns, Last Of Us etc...
Hmm not sure about it. I know the core reason or one of the main reasons for it not being backwards compatible is due to the different architecture (PS4 is going to be using x86 whereas PS3 did not use it). So I am really not sure, would be nice. I have a feeling that will not be the case though.
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On June 16 2013 19:54 DwD wrote: I know PS4 isn't backwards compatible.. but does anyone know if you will be allowed to port your games over from PS3 to PS4 somehow? Either by some disc check or with your PS account? Or do they expect you to rebuy your old games through the PSN Store? Maybe it will be backwards compatible with Gaikai?(Not even sure what Gaikai does tbh).
Does anyone know anything about this? I'm trying to decide if I should keep buying PS3 titles or just wait for PS4 and till they get available there... Games like the new FF X-HD X-2-HD, Lightning Returns, Last Of Us etc... Sony is quiet on that particular issue at the moment (how Gaikai will work to allow you to play PS3 titles on PS4). I've not seen any solid information on it anywhere. And that's probably because they haven't decided themselves at this point.
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Can anyone remember what they did with the Vita and old PSP games? I'm sure they said they were going to have something in place but I never got a vita and didn't follow it. I'd assume they could do something similar with the PS4 and old PS3 games. Which is a shame, since if they did nothing then I don't think they'll do anything. I also remember hearing that the Gaikai will not be working until 2014 and that was only in America at first, am I remembering right?
Can't see anything like the watch dogs bundle on the UK amazon or JP amazon yet, so I think they're only showing for the US so far (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Waiting until they show up before I order.
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On June 16 2013 18:07 dongmydrum wrote: xbox thread gets 150+ pages while ps4 thread gets fewer than 10 pages... while xbox one hasn't been getting favorable reviews, ps4 seems to generate no enthusiasm whatsoever. Maybe MS learned from Apple and Facebook that they'd rather prefer hatred than apathy
a shitstorm of that magnitude creates alot of traffic, not only here but on all of the gamingwebz. but that traffic is 99% utter hate.
also consider that evrytime a newspost is made about problem x or y the ps4 is most likely mentioned as the positive comparison.
there is NOTHING good about this for microsoft.
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On June 16 2013 18:07 dongmydrum wrote: xbox thread gets 150+ pages while ps4 thread gets fewer than 10 pages... while xbox one hasn't been getting favorable reviews, ps4 seems to generate no enthusiasm whatsoever. Maybe MS learned from Apple and Facebook that they'd rather prefer hatred than apathy PS4 thread is like a few days old while XboxOne was 3 months old and the majority of Xbox1 thread posts are PS4 vs Xbox1 post which well, can never get old .
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I'm torn between PS4 and Xbox One right now. Used games feature is big for me but I think the Xbox One will have better games and exclusives. I think I'm gonna have to hold out on buying either of these once they come out and wait for reviews. MS screwing its customers with this used game bs is, more than anything, the thing that will change my favorable opinion toward the PS4.
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Xbox thread was based on the launch show though, reason it had 120-30pages, then when E3 hit had another 20pages. This thread was made like week ago xd
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In talking to a developer who wished to remain anonymous, gamers will see a difference on Day One when they compare third party PS4 games to Xbox One head-to-head. The developer told me the PS4 is 40 percent more powerful than Xbox One and games like Call of Duty Ghosts will be noticeably different out of the gate.
Found this quote funny, but yeah, PS4 is sold out on Amazon.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2013/06/15/sony-playstation-4-launch-edition-already-sold-out-at-amazon/
I'm so glad I'm waiting 6 months to get this, the hype train is out of control.
On June 16 2013 23:18 Epishade wrote: I'm torn between PS4 and Xbox One right now. Used games feature is big for me but I think the Xbox One will have better games and exclusives. I think I'm gonna have to hold out on buying either of these once they come out and wait for reviews. MS screwing its customers with this used game bs is, more than anything, the thing that will change my favorable opinion toward the PS4.
Octodad is all I needed to hear in all honesty. Also, Killer Instinct, the only Xbox game I cared about, only launches with 1 character and the rest are DLC. Plus Deep Down + The Order: 1866 have got my attention much, much more than the 360 games. All the Xbox has is the new Halo series which will likely be complete rehash at this point, Dead Rising 3 which has turned tacticool brown and bloom as fuck, and Forza. But there's great racing games for the PS4 as well so that's not a huge crush to me.
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The hype train is half the fun though.
As far as actual developer interviews go though, whether those are true or not, the PS4 will look better than the Xbox. Don't forget consoles (as well as computers if you play games on a laptop like I do) split the job of running games over both the CPU and the GPU, and the xbox seems to be doing a lot of things as well in the background. So just thinking of that means the xbox may either look worse or suffer more frequent FPS drops.
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On June 16 2013 23:18 Epishade wrote: I'm torn between PS4 and Xbox One right now. Used games feature is big for me but I think the Xbox One will have better games and exclusives. I think I'm gonna have to hold out on buying either of these once they come out and wait for reviews. MS screwing its customers with this used game bs is, more than anything, the thing that will change my favorable opinion toward the PS4.
Killing the use market is good for the overall gaming industry. It already happen in pc gaming, and we must hope it happens to Playstation 4. Otherwise they might face the wrath of third publishers. They will likely rise the price of the games to 70-80 dollars if they can't kill the use market or don't get a fee. Sony's game will ofc be 60$.
Anyway Sony has been very evasive about used market, even after E3 jack tretton told third publishers can block it or it's up to them, also another sony guy was very evasive aswell just saying sony wont block used game on there game but not rule out third publishers.
You should keep an massive eye on Sony so you don't get surprised.
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On June 17 2013 00:16 Trumpstyle wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2013 23:18 Epishade wrote: I'm torn between PS4 and Xbox One right now. Used games feature is big for me but I think the Xbox One will have better games and exclusives. I think I'm gonna have to hold out on buying either of these once they come out and wait for reviews. MS screwing its customers with this used game bs is, more than anything, the thing that will change my favorable opinion toward the PS4. Killing the use market is good for the overall gaming industry. It already happen in pc gaming, and we must hope it happens to Playstation 4. Otherwise they might face the wrath of third publishers. They will likely rise the price of the games to 70-80 dollars if they can't kill the use market or don't get a fee. Sony's game will ofc be 60$. Anyway Sony has been very evasive about used market, even after E3 jack tretton told third publishers can block it or it's up to them, also another sony guy was very evasive aswell just saying sony wont block used game on there game but not rule out third publishers. You should keep an massive eye on Sony so you don't get surprised. They can't tell 3rd party what to do but Jack Tretton firmly state that all Sony disc based first party games will be DRM free just like PS3 so I don't think you can count them as evasive on the matter.
What Sony is doing right now is setting the tone and example for 3rd party publishers. Let's say Sony also go with MS regarding DRM, what do you think 3rd party will go? I am sure if both Sony and DRM are against used games and want enforce DRM, all the 3rd parties will follow suit. Right now, even EA says that they have not made any decision yet, and they eliminate their online pass(online pass= you need to buy a code to play a used game)
On June 16 2013 23:18 Epishade wrote: I'm torn between PS4 and Xbox One right now. Used games feature is big for me but I think the Xbox One will have better games and exclusives. I think I'm gonna have to hold out on buying either of these once they come out and wait for reviews. MS screwing its customers with this used game bs is, more than anything, the thing that will change my favorable opinion toward the PS4. Holding out for a few months is good idea. But if you think X1 has better exclusives than PS4 you are wrong. MS just showed their hand at E3 while Sony has the biggest inhouse studios in the industry which will bring out alot more exclusives than MS could. Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica(Uncharted, God of war, The last of us) will surely make some awesome PS4 exclusives while MS has to rely on 3rd party exclusives which will be on PC or even PS4 after their contract run out.
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The problem with getting rid of the used game market without a cheaper alternative is that it's just bad. Imagine PC gaming without steam or GMG, it'd be awful. That's what xbox is doing. If their marketplace was any good it would be fine, but it's terrible. It's good for developers but bad for consumers.
Sony haven't been evasive either. They said they won't block their own games but for third part developers it's up to them. That's literally what it means. Please don't start conspiracy theories because you couldn't understand what they said.
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