I guess I won't be watching Proleague then. Really wanted to see EG.TL tear shit up :'(
Any chance someone will just commentate over the korean stream?
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iEatWoofers
Switzerland108 Posts
I guess I won't be watching Proleague then. Really wanted to see EG.TL tear shit up :'( Any chance someone will just commentate over the korean stream? | ||
atrox_
United Kingdom1706 Posts
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BigBossX
United Kingdom357 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:21 DarkLordOlli wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2012 00:15 Gosi wrote: On December 07 2012 00:07 DarkLordOlli wrote: On December 06 2012 23:59 BigBossX wrote: On December 06 2012 23:46 S_SienZ wrote: On December 06 2012 23:37 BigBossX wrote: Yet you don't answer the question. This isn't really about opinions, it's about the fact people watch starcraft for the games, not the commentary, or at least they fucking should. Who the hell are you to tell people how they should decide what to watch? Because it's freaking OBVIOUS. No one watches ANY sport for the commentary, if you don't like cricket, do you tune in anyway for the commentary? tennis? football? No, you tune in for the god damned sport. Well, I watch lower quality soccer streams with english commentators rather than HD soccer on my TV with german commentators. Why? It's WAAAY more professional and I've learned more about soccer by watching them than I've learned during the years I played the damn sport. For me it's similar with SC2. That's why I love high analysis casters more than anything else. If need be, I'll still watch a game if there's like technical difficulties and no english stream for some reason. But KeSPA is really just being a fucking dick, as always, that's why I won't be watching this except for EG-TL matches. It's not like you are making a stand or something by just watching EG-TL matches. Thats pretty much how everyone does with Proleague since it's so many matches and you kind of follow your team only just like in regular sport. Sure people that ain't KT or SKT1 fans may watch those rival matches aswell because they are awesome, and you also have people actually watching everything because they are FPL freaks. But yeah, nothing else is really expected from you when you have a team in Proleague. You might be right with that but I still know that I would watch every single game I have time for if KeSPA didn't dick around. So at least I know that they lose a potential viewer at times. I'm not under the illusion that me not watching these games is really gonna change anything but hey, if everybody thought that way we'd never get anywhere. I only watch EG-TL matches because my support for those teams > my not-support for KeSPA. You realise your viewing of EG-TL matches doesn't actually do anything for them. | ||
Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:22 S_SienZ wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2012 00:18 BlazeFury01 wrote: People acting like English cast has been completely removed. There's always stream casting. Get a couple English casters together and have them commentate the games as they're going on. There's no need for a rebroadcast to do this. They can also generate revenue from the viewers. That's only a solution for some people. You HAVE to watch live, and timezones mean that is simply not an option for some people. Artosis and them are already in Korea. Also, who is the "some people" your referring to? I made my statement as an alternative to the situation, not a permanent replacement. | ||
pms
Poland611 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:19 BlazeFury01 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2012 00:18 pms wrote: Disgusting. Basically, I'm not going to watch Proleague. Your loss. I doubt anybody will miss you. Why are people on this website so dramatic? Haha I guess his name says it all! :D Well, actually I wish all the best to Proleague, but this is not the way to appeal to a broader audience than just Koreans and a bunch of BW hardcore followers. Although I started to follow the SC scene with BW, I'm not going to watch broadcasts in Korean, this is a system that is way to closed and self-focused for me, and thousands alike, imho... | ||
Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:25 atrox_ wrote: get Sayle back Dream outcome would be MLG paying Sayle to cast from whereever he is. | ||
S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:26 BlazeFury01 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2012 00:22 S_SienZ wrote: On December 07 2012 00:18 BlazeFury01 wrote: People acting like English cast has been completely removed. There's always stream casting. Get a couple English casters together and have them commentate the games as they're going on. There's no need for a rebroadcast to do this. They can also generate revenue from the viewers. That's only a solution for some people. You HAVE to watch live, and timezones mean that is simply not an option for some people. Artosis and them are already in Korea. Also, who is the "some people" your referring to? I made my statement as an alternative to the situation, not a permanent replacement. GOM has VODs. The "some people"? People who are in inconvenient timezones and have jobs / commitments which prevent them from staying up at crazy hours? | ||
sYz-Adrenaline
United States1850 Posts
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:27 pms wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2012 00:19 BlazeFury01 wrote: On December 07 2012 00:18 pms wrote: Disgusting. Basically, I'm not going to watch Proleague. Your loss. I doubt anybody will miss you. Why are people on this website so dramatic? Haha I guess his name says it all! :D Well, actually I wish all the best to Proleague, but this is not the way to appeal to a broader audience than just Koreans and a bunch of BW hardcore followers. Although I started to follow the SC scene with BW, I'm not going to watch broadcasts in Korean, this is a system that is way to closed and self-focused for me, and thousands alike, imho... But there will be English casters commentating the game live...they just won't be at the event :d | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:25 BigBossX wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2012 00:21 DarkLordOlli wrote: On December 07 2012 00:15 Gosi wrote: On December 07 2012 00:07 DarkLordOlli wrote: On December 06 2012 23:59 BigBossX wrote: On December 06 2012 23:46 S_SienZ wrote: On December 06 2012 23:37 BigBossX wrote: Yet you don't answer the question. This isn't really about opinions, it's about the fact people watch starcraft for the games, not the commentary, or at least they fucking should. Who the hell are you to tell people how they should decide what to watch? Because it's freaking OBVIOUS. No one watches ANY sport for the commentary, if you don't like cricket, do you tune in anyway for the commentary? tennis? football? No, you tune in for the god damned sport. Well, I watch lower quality soccer streams with english commentators rather than HD soccer on my TV with german commentators. Why? It's WAAAY more professional and I've learned more about soccer by watching them than I've learned during the years I played the damn sport. For me it's similar with SC2. That's why I love high analysis casters more than anything else. If need be, I'll still watch a game if there's like technical difficulties and no english stream for some reason. But KeSPA is really just being a fucking dick, as always, that's why I won't be watching this except for EG-TL matches. It's not like you are making a stand or something by just watching EG-TL matches. Thats pretty much how everyone does with Proleague since it's so many matches and you kind of follow your team only just like in regular sport. Sure people that ain't KT or SKT1 fans may watch those rival matches aswell because they are awesome, and you also have people actually watching everything because they are FPL freaks. But yeah, nothing else is really expected from you when you have a team in Proleague. You might be right with that but I still know that I would watch every single game I have time for if KeSPA didn't dick around. So at least I know that they lose a potential viewer at times. I'm not under the illusion that me not watching these games is really gonna change anything but hey, if everybody thought that way we'd never get anywhere. I only watch EG-TL matches because my support for those teams > my not-support for KeSPA. You realise your viewing of EG-TL matches doesn't actually do anything for them. Imagine everybody tuned in for EG-TL matches and nobody tuned in for any other matches. Would that benefit EG and TL? Pretty sure it would, even if not in the form of immediate money (at least I don't think so). The more people tune in, the more attractive to sponsors, blahblahblah. You know the deal. | ||
JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
So much for people claiming that Kespa will bring a whole new level of professionalism into the sc2 scene. | ||
Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:27 Solarsail wrote: Dream outcome would be MLG paying Sayle to cast from whereever he is. How exactly is that better than professional MLG casters doing it? | ||
BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:28 S_SienZ wrote: ah I see what you mean now. I didn't read it correctly. You can always go back and see the commentate games via the commentators twitch.tv page. We should have opter post links on the thread of the English casters twitch pages that way anybody who missed the event can watch it later.Show nested quote + On December 07 2012 00:26 BlazeFury01 wrote: On December 07 2012 00:22 S_SienZ wrote: On December 07 2012 00:18 BlazeFury01 wrote: People acting like English cast has been completely removed. There's always stream casting. Get a couple English casters together and have them commentate the games as they're going on. There's no need for a rebroadcast to do this. They can also generate revenue from the viewers. That's only a solution for some people. You HAVE to watch live, and timezones mean that is simply not an option for some people. Artosis and them are already in Korea. Also, who is the "some people" your referring to? I made my statement as an alternative to the situation, not a permanent replacement. GOM has VODs. The "some people"? People who are in inconvenient timezones and have jobs / commitments which prevent them from staying up at crazy hours? | ||
Grettin
42379 Posts
No English cast for Pro League? Hmm. Digging into it now. | ||
Ziken
Ghana1743 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:22 S_SienZ wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2012 00:18 BlazeFury01 wrote: People acting like English cast has been completely removed. There's always stream casting. Get a couple English casters together and have them commentate the games as they're going on. There's no need for a rebroadcast to do this. They can also generate revenue from the viewers. That's only a solution for some people. You HAVE to watch live, and timezones mean that is simply not an option for some people. Not to mention for some of us our net doesnt support having multiple streams running at one time | ||
Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:32 Bagi wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2012 00:27 Solarsail wrote: On December 07 2012 00:25 atrox_ wrote: get Sayle back Dream outcome would be MLG paying Sayle to cast from whereever he is. How exactly is that better than professional MLG casters doing it? It isn't. I don't know what's up with the contingent of people with a hardon for Sayle, especially when you have guys like Axslav who could do the job. | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:36 forsooth wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2012 00:32 Bagi wrote: On December 07 2012 00:27 Solarsail wrote: On December 07 2012 00:25 atrox_ wrote: get Sayle back Dream outcome would be MLG paying Sayle to cast from whereever he is. How exactly is that better than professional MLG casters doing it? It isn't. I don't know what's up with the contingent of people with a hardon for Sayle, especially when you have guys like Axslav who could do the job. I'm pretty sure it's just about who deserves the money in that case. And I think Sayle absolutely, absolutely does deserve some money for everything he's done even though he might not be the best/highest analysis caster in the business (even though I really enjoyed him). Have him co-cast with Axslav and I'm raaaale happy | ||
Meta
United States6225 Posts
On December 06 2012 21:59 opisska wrote: This way, we may soon get rid of all the notorious KeSPA defenders on TL. Where? I've been here since 2003 and all KeSPA's ever done is fuck shit up for the community. I'm not at all surprised. As a side note, having not watched professional SC2 in nine months, I was considering tuning in to KT vs TL-EG. Not anymore. | ||
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