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On December 06 2012 23:45 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Korea streams of proleague will make it feel more like BW, and that is never a bad thing.
You're flat out wrong. This is a bad thing. We are not in the BW-era of Starcraft where Starcraft is a Korean phenomena with minuscule foreign interest. Foreign interests dominates Starcraft 2, and those fans are getting slighted of the some of the highest quality play on the planet because of Kespa being Kespa.
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Also, this pisses me off
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All this stuff places TL in a very precarious position. MLG will not hesitate to side with KeSPA if there is any profit to be made and so probably will EG as they have no reason to withdrew from PL but TL is different. Despite the unconditional love for PL, I don't think Nazgul would accept the diktat of KeSPA so this unholy alliance might crumble even before it start :[
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On December 06 2012 23:52 D.B wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 23:46 Michaels wrote:
I dislike Doa and his "I didnt get this job, boycott those fuckers" attitude. If KeSPa found someone better to broadcast their league than im OK with that since OGN OSL broadcast was fucking terrible. Did you even read what he wrote???
Idiots can't read.
Anyway, I'm interested in what Mr. James Harding has planned. Is it really just trolling, or does he actually have a plan set for invading Pro League?
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On December 06 2012 23:46 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 23:37 BigBossX wrote:
Yet you don't answer the question. This isn't really about opinions, it's about the fact people watch starcraft for the games, not the commentary, or at least they fucking should.
Who the hell are you to tell people how they should decide what to watch?
Because it's freaking OBVIOUS. No one watches ANY sport for the commentary, if you don't like cricket, do you tune in anyway for the commentary? tennis? football? No, you tune in for the god damned sport.
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On December 06 2012 23:58 Otolia wrote:
All this stuff places TL in a very precarious position. MLG will not hesitate to side with KeSPA if there is any profit to be made and so probably will EG as they have no reason to withdrew from PL but TL is different. Despite the unconditional love for PL, I don't think Nazgul would accept the diktat of KeSPA so this unholy alliance might crumble even before it start :[
What?
TL thumbs this up massively. Anyone would do a better job than OGN for the English broadcast.
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On December 06 2012 22:19 Elroi wrote:
the korean casting is always way better anyway (as any bw fan would tell you). and like this they will probably not implement the stupid fucking pay to view system.
I can tell you as a BW fan that Korean casting is something I put up with, not something I enjoy. I'll take a good English commentator any day.
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Does kespa function like a committee or do they have a supreme leader like umbrellas Wesker?
Was just wondering who is making these decisions
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On December 06 2012 23:59 KanoCoke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 23:52 D.B wrote:On December 06 2012 23:46 Michaels wrote:
I dislike Doa and his "I didnt get this job, boycott those fuckers" attitude. If KeSPa found someone better to broadcast their league than im OK with that since OGN OSL broadcast was fucking terrible. Did you even read what he wrote??? Idiots can't read. Anyway, I'm interested in what Mr. James Harding has planned. Is it really just trolling, or does he actually have a plan set for invading Pro League?
He posted exactly what MLGLee posted. So it was 99% trolling.
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On December 06 2012 23:59 BigBossX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 23:46 S_SienZ wrote:On December 06 2012 23:37 BigBossX wrote:
Yet you don't answer the question. This isn't really about opinions, it's about the fact people watch starcraft for the games, not the commentary, or at least they fucking should.
Who the hell are you to tell people how they should decide what to watch? Because it's freaking OBVIOUS. No one watches ANY sport for the commentary, if you don't like cricket, do you tune in anyway for the commentary? tennis? football? No, you tune in for the god damned sport.
I know plenty of people who don't give 2 shits about football but still watch the World Cup for a variety of other reasons.
Just because some things ought to be does not mean they are.
Just cause you claim something as fact, does not mean it is.
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Korean business truly is complicated. Well, I prefer the OGN commentators anyway (in only for the nostalgia), but if I understand that right, I won't even get them since OGN only broadcasts on weekends.
All in all that doesn't sound too good.
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Lol corea is such a clusterfuck.
By the way i don't personally give 2 cent about OGN casting this,just give the job to anyone,there are tons of people waiting for it,hell just hire ToD.
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Should´nt this create a lot of pressure towards KeSPA?
I mean for all the sponsors of TL and EG besides the team themselves this is obviously really bad news. This was the big thing going into 2013 for EG and TL and it just got turned to shit.
Same thing with all other teams, are no of the others teams and all their sponsors interested in publicity towards the rest of the world?
Seems like everyone loses. That´s how you know that the people in charge are retarded.
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On December 07 2012 00:02 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 23:59 KanoCoke wrote:On December 06 2012 23:52 D.B wrote:On December 06 2012 23:46 Michaels wrote:
I dislike Doa and his "I didnt get this job, boycott those fuckers" attitude. If KeSPa found someone better to broadcast their league than im OK with that since OGN OSL broadcast was fucking terrible. Did you even read what he wrote??? Idiots can't read. Anyway, I'm interested in what Mr. James Harding has planned. Is it really just trolling, or does he actually have a plan set for invading Pro League? He posted exactly what MLGLee posted. So it was 99% trolling.
There's still that 1%.
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On December 06 2012 23:59 BigBossX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 23:46 S_SienZ wrote:On December 06 2012 23:37 BigBossX wrote:
Yet you don't answer the question. This isn't really about opinions, it's about the fact people watch starcraft for the games, not the commentary, or at least they fucking should.
Who the hell are you to tell people how they should decide what to watch? Because it's freaking OBVIOUS. No one watches ANY sport for the commentary, if you don't like cricket, do you tune in anyway for the commentary? tennis? football? No, you tune in for the god damned sport.
Well, I watch lower quality soccer streams with english commentators rather than HD soccer on my TV with german commentators. Why? It's WAAAY more professional and I've learned more about soccer by watching them than I've learned during the years I played the damn sport.
For me it's similar with SC2. That's why I love high analysis casters more than anything else. If need be, I'll still watch a game if there's like technical difficulties and no english stream for some reason. But KeSPA is really just being a fucking dick, as always, that's why I won't be watching this except for EG-TL matches.
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On December 06 2012 23:35 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 23:20 hautfein wrote:
In my opinion this is actually a good thing. Kespa saves a large amount of money by not paying overpaid and mostly incompetent western casters.
I normally watch any tournament with sound off to prevent myself from brain damage by listening to completely wrong assessments from Day9 and other self-centered casters.
If there is one thing the Esports community should stop it's throwing money at casters for basically doing nothing but throwing their mostly uneducated opinion at the game.
Many progamers have stated that it's a far better job to be a caster and if we change that more money can go to the players enforcing a stronger competition.
Nice move, Kespa! jaeh you not liking castings its like say "oh football without commentators is so much better jaeh nice" and 99% of the people shut down the tv... day9 artosis tastless apollo and co are the reason for me and alot of others to watch it ... i not watch the mlg top8 finals because of i dont like the casters
I'm not saying there shouldn't be any english casting at all (wouldn't be too bad in my opinion though). I'm saying organizations should stop paying famous people tons of money for doing the easiest job in the world.
As we have seen before casters are pretty much exchangable as batteries. Many pro players do a far better job at casting than so called professional casters (Grubby and Idra for example). Look at Homestory Cup. Part of the reason why it is so successful is because it has actually knowledgable casters.
Some time ago it was said that tastosis gets paid about 10 to 15k for casting a major 3 day event. This is insane if you consider how relatively little money all the players get who are actually playing there.
Not long ago there was also a youtube caster who explained why he had stopped casting. It was because the famous, wealthy casters occupied all the castings jobs and tried to keep others out of business.
If I think of how much money the Plott brothers get for their medicore casting and how many times they have screwed up their assessments of situations and how little money very, very good korean players get the only conclusion is that we live in a very fucked up system and I appreciate any change to that.
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someone might rebroadcast anyway.
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