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No English OGN broadcast for SK Planet Proleague? - Page 15

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mtvacuum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States979 Posts
December 06 2012 15:13 GMT
#281
no problem, prefer korean casting anyway
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 06 2012 15:13 GMT
#282
On December 07 2012 00:08 DidYuhim wrote:
someone might rebroadcast anyway.


There's a song by awolnation about said hero.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
nubcak3
Profile Joined July 2010
United States104 Posts
December 06 2012 15:14 GMT
#283
Right when I just got excited about EG-TL in proleague, this kind of shit happens.
“Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, [etc]. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.” - Bruce Lee
Joestar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden87 Posts
December 06 2012 15:15 GMT
#284
Mostly I'm sad for the casters, was really excited to see Doa cast again and they seem to have put a lot of prep into this.

Now it seems wasted unless a miracle happens.

Any chance that MLG will use the casting team that was planned, Doa?
"It's a bizarre SC2 adventure"
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
December 06 2012 15:15 GMT
#285
On December 07 2012 00:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 23:59 BigBossX wrote:
On December 06 2012 23:46 S_SienZ wrote:
On December 06 2012 23:37 BigBossX wrote:
Yet you don't answer the question. This isn't really about opinions, it's about the fact people watch starcraft for the games, not the commentary, or at least they fucking should.

Who the hell are you to tell people how they should decide what to watch?



Because it's freaking OBVIOUS. No one watches ANY sport for the commentary, if you don't like cricket, do you tune in anyway for the commentary? tennis? football? No, you tune in for the god damned sport.


Well, I watch lower quality soccer streams with english commentators rather than HD soccer on my TV with german commentators. Why? It's WAAAY more professional and I've learned more about soccer by watching them than I've learned during the years I played the damn sport.
For me it's similar with SC2. That's why I love high analysis casters more than anything else. If need be, I'll still watch a game if there's like technical difficulties and no english stream for some reason. But KeSPA is really just being a fucking dick, as always, that's why I won't be watching this except for EG-TL matches.

It's not like you are making a stand or something by just watching EG-TL matches. Thats pretty much how everyone does with Proleague since it's so many matches and you kind of follow your team only just like in regular sport. Sure people that ain't KT or SKT1 fans may watch those rival matches aswell because they are awesome, and you also have people actually watching everything because they are FPL freaks. But yeah, nothing else is really expected from you when you have a team in Proleague.
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pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
December 06 2012 15:18 GMT
#286
Disgusting. Basically, I'm not going to watch Proleague.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
December 06 2012 15:18 GMT
#287
People acting like English cast has been completely removed. There's always stream casting. Get a couple English casters together and have them commentate the games as they're going on. There's no need for a rebroadcast to do this. They can also generate revenue from the viewers.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 15:21:48
December 06 2012 15:19 GMT
#288
On December 07 2012 00:18 pms wrote:
Disgusting. Basically, I'm not going to watch Proleague.

Your loss. I doubt anybody will miss you. Why are people on this website so dramatic? Haha I guess his name says it all! :D
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
December 06 2012 15:20 GMT
#289
On December 06 2012 23:45 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Korea streams of proleague will make it feel more like BW, and that is never a bad thing.


Yes that's a very bad thing unless you want to go back to the old days where you had 20 guys on TL having a nice group chat and wondering why they cant grow Esport!
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
December 06 2012 15:20 GMT
#290
On December 06 2012 23:46 Michaels wrote:
I dislike Doa and his "I didnt get this job, boycott those fuckers" attitude. If KeSPa found someone better to broadcast their league than im OK with that since OGN OSL broadcast was fucking terrible.


OMG READ!
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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 15:24:31
December 06 2012 15:20 GMT
#291
How can some many people prefer to listen to commentating in a language they dont understand shit of? I would almost not call it commentating anymore then, it is more like a laugh track x))

Weird! If I dont like a commentator or it is in a language I dont understand I mute and put on a soundtrack.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
FakeLife
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
December 06 2012 15:21 GMT
#292
Sorry, I'm not someone who's been watching Brood War casts for years. I can't comprehend people thinking it's a great thing to have only Korean casters you don't understand a word of, just because they 'sound' better.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 06 2012 15:21 GMT
#293
On December 07 2012 00:15 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 06 2012 23:59 BigBossX wrote:
On December 06 2012 23:46 S_SienZ wrote:
On December 06 2012 23:37 BigBossX wrote:
Yet you don't answer the question. This isn't really about opinions, it's about the fact people watch starcraft for the games, not the commentary, or at least they fucking should.

Who the hell are you to tell people how they should decide what to watch?



Because it's freaking OBVIOUS. No one watches ANY sport for the commentary, if you don't like cricket, do you tune in anyway for the commentary? tennis? football? No, you tune in for the god damned sport.


Well, I watch lower quality soccer streams with english commentators rather than HD soccer on my TV with german commentators. Why? It's WAAAY more professional and I've learned more about soccer by watching them than I've learned during the years I played the damn sport.
For me it's similar with SC2. That's why I love high analysis casters more than anything else. If need be, I'll still watch a game if there's like technical difficulties and no english stream for some reason. But KeSPA is really just being a fucking dick, as always, that's why I won't be watching this except for EG-TL matches.

It's not like you are making a stand or something by just watching EG-TL matches. Thats pretty much how everyone does with Proleague since it's so many matches and you kind of follow your team only just like in regular sport. Sure people that ain't KT or SKT1 fans may watch those rival matches aswell because they are awesome, and you also have people actually watching everything because they are FPL freaks. But yeah, nothing else is really expected from you when you have a team in Proleague.


You might be right with that but I still know that I would watch every single game I have time for if KeSPA didn't dick around. So at least I know that they lose a potential viewer at times. I'm not under the illusion that me not watching these games is really gonna change anything but hey, if everybody thought that way we'd never get anywhere.
I only watch EG-TL matches because my support for those teams > my not-support for KeSPA.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
December 06 2012 15:22 GMT
#294
A few things that cross my mind as a fan of SCII, familiar with BW but not obsessed with it and a non-korean speaker:

Firstly, this is a move that does nothing but hinder KeSPA's acceptance by the sc2 fanbase that was not BW hardcores. And that fanbase is far more extended than the BW hardcores that will forgive KeSPA (or even praise them) for the shit they throw to other organisations/foreign fans. Bad move, simple as that.

Secondly, there will definately be a restream of Proleague's games in english. Or even muting the sound and talking over the live stream or whatever. After al, EG-TL has entered (and also EG-JD, all the BW legends playing, etc) and now that the interest for PL has peaked, there will be enough demand for it.

Thirdly, some people here -who I won't dare express my oppinion about them and their e-peens,- brag about prefering to watch the Korean streams over the English streams. Bravo! We get it, you are mega-Korean-gosu-hardcore-elephant-Kpop. You were on this site since the dawn of time. But here we are talking about the rest of the SCII fans outside of Korea who DO NOT want to be forced listen to a language they don't understand.

This attitude of KeSPA should not be praised by anyone, especially if you call yourself an old time SC fan. How does this stream of disappointing and in some cases plain retarded (*cough*Rain forfeiting codeS to hurt GomTV viewership and grab foreign attention and subsequently failing both in and out of Korea*cough*) actions, help SCII grow? It only creates a circle of self entitled fanaticism by the BW diehards and a negativity towards everything KeSPA by the rest of the foreign community (who I repeat are severely outnumbering the former category).

I really hope both EG and TL consider this cancelation of the OGN broadcast as an unnecessary power play that conflicts with their interests and start showing KeSPA they cannot get away with anything they want anymore.

+ Show Spoiler +
Finally, as for my stance on this, I am torn (as I believe many people here). Boycotting KeSPA because the removal of their SCHEDULED official stream is an offence to me as a foreign fan VS watching the famed Proleague come live on SCII with all the BW legends plus EG-TL as a bonus. But since it's not the first or the second or even the third time they are throwing shit at other organisations, people and foreign fans in the short time they are involved in SCII, boycotting them so they see there is a backlash caused by their shady politics, seems more appropriate to me.
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BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
December 06 2012 15:22 GMT
#295
On December 07 2012 00:20 4ZakeN87 wrote:
How can some many people prefer to listen to commentating in a language they dont understand shit of?

Weird! If I dont like a commentator or it is in a language I dont understand I mute and put on a soundtrack.

It's the emotion they release when commentating my good man. You can feel it
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
December 06 2012 15:22 GMT
#296
On December 07 2012 00:18 BlazeFury01 wrote:
People acting like English cast has been completely removed. There's always stream casting. Get a couple English casters together and have them commentate the games as they're going on. There's no need for a rebroadcast to do this. They can also generate revenue from the viewers.

That's only a solution for some people. You HAVE to watch live, and timezones mean that is simply not an option for some people.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
December 06 2012 15:23 GMT
#297
I'll be watching the Korean broadcast anyway, but if MLG is going to be doing the english cast instead, it should be fine.
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
ajxPurpleRain
Profile Joined July 2012
United States87 Posts
December 06 2012 15:24 GMT
#298
Insane! In a world where Jaedong joins a foreigner team there needs to an English broadcast. I can understand that KESPA is trying to hold on to what they've got, but even that last sliver of control will be gone soon if they continue to throw their weight around in this fragile esport eco system.

P.S. Considering DoA's overall gentlemanly countenance and commitment to the SC, I have to believe they screwed him pretty good to get this response.
Only want to see you /dancing in the PurpleRain.
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
December 06 2012 15:24 GMT
#299
Read again. It says "No English OGN broadcast." It doesn't say "No English Proleague broadcast."

Stop being drama queens. Let's see what happens.
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
pekkasteele
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden80 Posts
December 06 2012 15:25 GMT
#300
On December 07 2012 00:19 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 00:18 pms wrote:
Disgusting. Basically, I'm not going to watch Proleague.

Your loss. I doubt anybody will miss you. Why are people on this website so dramatic?


No ultimately it is the games loss, he is not the only one that will not watch due to this. It means less views, less exposure for the sponsors and then less money for the teams. And it will for SURE not create any more followers outside of Korea, English Casters could at least potentially do that.
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