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On July 11 2012 11:09 Bagration wrote: That's a pity for Acer, losing to Prime and TSL both 4-5. Good run this tournament.
Unbelievable when you think about it. Acer doesn't really have any superstar foreigners other than Nerchio. If this had been GSTL though, I doubt it would be that close.
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Yay for TSL! I still cannot understand why on earth they would try to play two macro PvZs in a row but it's good to see that once they stopped doing dumb stuff Polt managed to pull out a couple of wins including a really impressive win against Scarlett. Polt's TvZ is super gosu, I love that crazy drop/expo everywhere TvZ style.
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Haha I love CatsPajamas! He may have overhyped the hold a little bit, but soo much better to overhype then underhype something like that. He is quickly becoming one of my fav casters. Him and Apollo need to team up for a cast :D
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Now if Acer had a capable Protoss or two and another terran they would actually be seen as a top european team. Still an amazingly surprising showing in the tournament. I'm sad to see them go out especially after the performance Scarlet put up.
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That was very close. I thought Polt would hold that for sure, but if Hydra had built 2 Marauders to targetfire vikings/tanks instead of 1 reaper (at least i think thats what the buildtime would allow, not 100% sure), or shot the tank a bit faster he would have had that.
Great fake of a reaper expand in any case and nice try :D
I missed the earlier games before scarlet came in, how did Bly and Nerchio loose?
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Damn, Scarlet almost fucked up TSL :D
Better luck next time
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I think scarlett would've taken out symbol in a zvz if it came down to it. She is a heartbreaker and upsetter.
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Please don't compare Scarlett to TossGirl.
The real problem I have with Scarlett and her fans is that Polt just played an incredible game in a match-up where Terrans have been struggling a ton. Scarlett did not play particularly well where as Polt was completely dominant the entire game (even when she was pushing and trading with Polt, Polt was rebuilding and she was not). Yet after that game, 90% of posts are about Scarlett and her play instead of Polt. The only reason why she is even getting this much attention is because she's a "girl."
And IdrA is better than Scarlett.
Everyone knows Polt plays like a boss. Thats why he and Stephano are basically 50-50, in addition to his winning a GSL (I'm sure someone will correct me on the vStephano win rate). Scarlett has only shown up two or three times and played like a champ each time. Plus she's Canadian. Plus she's female. Plus she's lgbT.
HYPERBOLE ENGAGED. It's like the civil rights movement of sc2. I can't do anything but root for her. HYPERBOLE DISABLED.
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On July 11 2012 11:13 Havik_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 11:09 Bagration wrote: That's a pity for Acer, losing to Prime and TSL both 4-5. Good run this tournament. Unbelievable when you think about it. Acer doesn't really have any superstar foreigners other than Nerchio. If this had been GSTL though, I doubt it would be that close.
Oh of course. Korean teams prepare extensively for GSTL, and they really exploit every weakness. Just look at Liquid. They did pretty well in the IPL TAC, won the NASL teamleague, then they go off to the GSTL and get absolutely wrecked in the live setting.
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On July 11 2012 11:14 Disengaged wrote: Damn, Scarlet almost fucked up TSL :D
Better luck next time TSL almost messed up their chances by trying to play macro PvZ. I feel like I have not seen that style of just sitting back and trying to just constantly expand work in PvZ recently. Maybe I'm wrong but if you are going to play two Protoss players in a row, it just seems like doing some sort of 2 base Robo/Gateway timing attack would be good to do. Zergs have been dying left and right to that stuff. Plus they really should have played Symbol if they actually wanted to take this seriously.
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On July 11 2012 11:14 Tula wrote: That was very close. I thought Polt would hold that for sure, but if Hydra had built 2 Marauders to targetfire vikings/tanks instead of 1 reaper (at least i think thats what the buildtime would allow, not 100% sure), or shot the tank a bit faster he would have had that.
Great fake of a reaper expand in any case and nice try :D
I missed the earlier games before scarlet came in, how did Bly and Nerchio loose?
Nerchio lost a long back and forth roach infestor ZvZ against Revival (I think almost 40 minutes) and Bly lost to Revival as well in a base trade where Revival clearly had the much better army after Revival had gained an advantage in the mid-game muta wars.
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On July 11 2012 11:15 TheUnderking wrote:Show nested quote + Please don't compare Scarlett to TossGirl.
The real problem I have with Scarlett and her fans is that Polt just played an incredible game in a match-up where Terrans have been struggling a ton. Scarlett did not play particularly well where as Polt was completely dominant the entire game (even when she was pushing and trading with Polt, Polt was rebuilding and she was not). Yet after that game, 90% of posts are about Scarlett and her play instead of Polt. The only reason why she is even getting this much attention is because she's a "girl."
And IdrA is better than Scarlett.
Everyone knows Polt plays like a boss. Thats why he and Stephano are basically 50-50, in addition to his winning a GSL (I'm sure someone will correct me on the vStephano win rate). Scarlett has only shown up two or three times and played like a champ each time. Plus she's Canadian. Plus she's female. Plus she's lgbT. HYPERBOLE ENGAGED. It's like the civil rights movement of sc2. I can't do anything but root for her. HYPERBOLE DISABLED.
I think Polt vs Stephano current stats is 14-11 in favor of Polt. Pretty close tho.
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On July 11 2012 11:07 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 11:00 InDesconrowl wrote:On July 11 2012 10:59 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 11 2012 10:58 TheDougler wrote: Wow, even though she's not gonna win this Scarlett is playing just SOOOO well! She kind of reminds me of IdrA except minus the giving up. And she's just started! Really awesome to see. Please don't compare Scarlett to idra... Scarlett is actually quite better than idra currently. And she is a woman to boot. Scarlett will be the sc2 equivalent of TossGirl. Please don't compare Scarlett to TossGirl. The real problem I have with Scarlett and her fans is that Polt just played an incredible game in a match-up where Terrans have been struggling a ton. Scarlett did not play particularly well where as Polt was completely dominant the entire game (even when she was pushing and trading with Polt, Polt was rebuilding and she was not). Yet after that game, 90% of posts are about Scarlett and her play instead of Polt. The only reason why she is even getting this much attention is because she's a "girl." And IdrA is better than Scarlett.
Its because scarlett is a new player to the scene, and stomped over 3 Korean pros in this series, and yes because she is a girl ( no quote marks needed)
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On July 11 2012 11:19 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 11:15 TheUnderking wrote: Please don't compare Scarlett to TossGirl.
The real problem I have with Scarlett and her fans is that Polt just played an incredible game in a match-up where Terrans have been struggling a ton. Scarlett did not play particularly well where as Polt was completely dominant the entire game (even when she was pushing and trading with Polt, Polt was rebuilding and she was not). Yet after that game, 90% of posts are about Scarlett and her play instead of Polt. The only reason why she is even getting this much attention is because she's a "girl."
And IdrA is better than Scarlett.
Everyone knows Polt plays like a boss. Thats why he and Stephano are basically 50-50, in addition to his winning a GSL (I'm sure someone will correct me on the vStephano win rate). Scarlett has only shown up two or three times and played like a champ each time. Plus she's Canadian. Plus she's female. Plus she's lgbT. HYPERBOLE ENGAGED. It's like the civil rights movement of sc2. I can't do anything but root for her. HYPERBOLE DISABLED. I think Polt vs Stephano current stats is 14-11 in favor of Polt. Pretty close tho.
I believe it's now 15-13 after MLG Spring Championship.
I think Coach Lee made a huge blunder by having Cyrano play instead of Inori first to test Scarlett's ZvP mettle, especially when they knew she was training with some top tier Zergs. Also, the TSL Protosses should have just all-ined at least, because the way Scarlett plays late game ZvP is basically invincible. Beyond some questionable decisions, I think TSL played fairly well, especially Revival, and to a certain degree, Polt.
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On July 11 2012 11:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 11:19 Noocta wrote:On July 11 2012 11:15 TheUnderking wrote: Please don't compare Scarlett to TossGirl.
The real problem I have with Scarlett and her fans is that Polt just played an incredible game in a match-up where Terrans have been struggling a ton. Scarlett did not play particularly well where as Polt was completely dominant the entire game (even when she was pushing and trading with Polt, Polt was rebuilding and she was not). Yet after that game, 90% of posts are about Scarlett and her play instead of Polt. The only reason why she is even getting this much attention is because she's a "girl."
And IdrA is better than Scarlett.
Everyone knows Polt plays like a boss. Thats why he and Stephano are basically 50-50, in addition to his winning a GSL (I'm sure someone will correct me on the vStephano win rate). Scarlett has only shown up two or three times and played like a champ each time. Plus she's Canadian. Plus she's female. Plus she's lgbT. HYPERBOLE ENGAGED. It's like the civil rights movement of sc2. I can't do anything but root for her. HYPERBOLE DISABLED. I think Polt vs Stephano current stats is 14-11 in favor of Polt. Pretty close tho. I believe it's now 15-13 after MLG Spring Championship. I think Coach Lee made a huge blunder by having Cyrano play instead of Inori first to test Scarlett's ZvP mettle, especially when they knew she was training with some top tier Zergs. Also, the TSL Protosses should have just all-ined at least, because the way Scarlett plays late game ZvP is basically invincible. Beyond some questionable decisions, I think TSL played fairly well, especially Revival, and to a certain degree, Polt. Inori just played really really odd. So what was that - he picks a big map, does a late 4gate pressure no robo into 3rd nexus? What is that. Center and Cyrano wouldn't even be considered for GSTL and they didn't even have something different prepared like DarkHydra did vs Polt. It just feels like coach Lee forgot this was scheduled and looked and round thinking "Oh shit, Symbol and Hyun are at the beach".
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On July 11 2012 11:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 11:19 Noocta wrote:On July 11 2012 11:15 TheUnderking wrote: Please don't compare Scarlett to TossGirl.
The real problem I have with Scarlett and her fans is that Polt just played an incredible game in a match-up where Terrans have been struggling a ton. Scarlett did not play particularly well where as Polt was completely dominant the entire game (even when she was pushing and trading with Polt, Polt was rebuilding and she was not). Yet after that game, 90% of posts are about Scarlett and her play instead of Polt. The only reason why she is even getting this much attention is because she's a "girl."
And IdrA is better than Scarlett.
Everyone knows Polt plays like a boss. Thats why he and Stephano are basically 50-50, in addition to his winning a GSL (I'm sure someone will correct me on the vStephano win rate). Scarlett has only shown up two or three times and played like a champ each time. Plus she's Canadian. Plus she's female. Plus she's lgbT. HYPERBOLE ENGAGED. It's like the civil rights movement of sc2. I can't do anything but root for her. HYPERBOLE DISABLED. I think Polt vs Stephano current stats is 14-11 in favor of Polt. Pretty close tho. I believe it's now 15-13 after MLG Spring Championship. I think Coach Lee made a huge blunder by having Cyrano play instead of Inori first to test Scarlett's ZvP mettle, especially when they knew she was training with some top tier Zergs. Also, the TSL Protosses should have just all-ined at least, because the way Scarlett plays late game ZvP is basically invincible. Beyond some questionable decisions, I think TSL played fairly well, especially Revival, and to a certain degree, Polt. Cyrano shows really good games in-house and that's why he was played before Inori.
Unfortunately Cyrano's play probably works better against Koreans, not foreigners and it probably led to him mis-reading some of the plays. He just doesn't have much experience vs Foreigners.
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never seen or heard of tsl value before this. nice to see polt being the ace
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On July 11 2012 11:13 Havik_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 11:09 Bagration wrote: That's a pity for Acer, losing to Prime and TSL both 4-5. Good run this tournament. Unbelievable when you think about it. Acer doesn't really have any superstar foreigners other than Nerchio. If this had been GSTL though, I doubt it would be that close.
Ya I agree. Amazing job by Scarlett, making this match up surprisingly close.
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On July 11 2012 11:52 aintz wrote:never seen or heard of tsl value before this. nice to see polt being the ace TSL Value = TSL Cyrano
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