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k2hd
Cayman Islands78 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On March 06 2012 23:30 k2hd wrote: Phagga I do not like that post at all. First, JekylAndHyde posted a case against me within your 26 hour timeline here: post 1 That post was up on March 5th, 10:30 On March 06 2012 23:05 phagga wrote: From March 4th, 7:01 KST to March 5th, 9:14 KST only 6 people have been active in the thread. On March 06 2012 23:30 k2hd wrote: He is not one of those who blindly bandwagoned against alderan, he had posted against him here: post 2 and here: post 3 So don't say that JeklyAndHyde conveniently disappeared only to appear to sheep alderan. Where did I say that he was blindly bandwagoning? Where did I say he sheeped? I just said that all these people avoided any lynch discussion on D3 until 3 hours before the deadline. On March 06 2012 23:30 k2hd wrote: Now for this part of your post: + Show Spoiler + Also note that none of these persons had posted any info after the start of D3 on who they were going to vote for before they disappeared. So these three and Nightfury actually managed to miss the whole day's discussion about the vote and come in less than 3 hours before the deadline. Nightfury, Testsubject, DYH and Chocolate then vote for Alderan (although Choc and DYH think he's town and NF only seems to vote to prevent a nolynch) and THEN accuse everybody who voted for Alderan early to be scum. I have already talked about JeklyAndHyde. When did nightfury and testsubject accuse anyone who voted for alderan early? Testsubject has not even posted since alderan's lynch. The same goes for nightfury. This leaves chocolate, who you have had a bias against for the longest time now. You are right, I messed that up because my memory failed me. Sorry for wrongly accusing Nightfury and testsubject on the point of "they accused shloosh for setting up the bandwagon". On March 06 2012 23:30 k2hd wrote:Your post is a desperate attempt to push attention onto inactive posters and away from you, sloosh and ghost. My post is a slightly desperate attempt to show that there are several people who missed the day 3 lynch discussion. Draw you're own conclusions. | ||
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NightFury
Canada114 Posts
Just wanted to say one thing before resuming work just from skimming. I really doubt there is a godfather this game. If we have a DT, I believe all your townie checks are reliable. The basis for this statement is the fact that we have a confirmed RoleBlocker. There is no reason for zel to claim he got RBed twice since he was town. If you look at numerous other mini mafia games (both newbie or otherwise), I have not found a single one that included more than one red role above mafia goon. Is it still possible that there is a godfather? Yes. Do I find it extremely unlikely? Yes. | ||
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
Jekyll, I don't know what you will end up deciding. But if I read the sides on this as clearly as I think I do, your decision is going to be the difference between an all townie lynching of scum and a bus. ##Vote: slOosh | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On March 07 2012 01:52 NightFury wrote: I was extremely busy yesterday and will be at work for at least another 6 hours. I plan on being very active tonight and expect to hear from me. Just wanted to say one thing before resuming work just from skimming. I really doubt there is a godfather this game. If we have a DT, I believe all your townie checks are reliable. The basis for this statement is the fact that we have a confirmed RoleBlocker. There is no reason for zel to claim he got RBed twice since he was town. If you look at numerous other mini mafia games (both newbie or otherwise), I have not found a single one that included more than one red role above mafia goon. Is it still possible that there is a godfather? Yes. Do I find it extremely unlikely? Yes. I agree, the possibility of there being a godfather is low. I am surprised that there is not a vigilante though, but the vigilante could have just had cold feet yesterday. On March 07 2012 02:34 DoYouHas wrote: Seems the battle lines have been drawn. Me, k2hd, NightFury, Chocolate vs slOosh, Ghost, Phagga, Testsubject. Jekyll, I don't know what you will end up deciding. But if I read the sides on this as clearly as I think I do, your decision is going to be the difference between an all townie lynching of scum and a bus. ##Vote: slOosh Don't speak for testsubject yet, but I do agree that he is probably scum and will most likely align with them. As someone already mentioned, he hasn't posted for a while. I will also vote for sloosh now. ##vote:sloosh | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
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slOosh
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On March 07 2012 02:34 DoYouHas wrote: Seems the battle lines have been drawn. Me, k2hd, NightFury, Chocolate vs slOosh, Ghost, Phagga, Testsubject. Jekyll, I don't know what you will end up deciding. But if I read the sides on this as clearly as I think I do, your decision is going to be the difference between an all townie lynching of scum and a bus. ##Vote: slOosh This is the pinnacle of ridiculousness. You have drawn a clear line in the sand and distributed every player into two lots, solely on the basis of your assumption (yes it is assumption now, it is very clear you are twisting everything I say / do into painting me mafia). Let me refresh everyone's minds of a recent post. On March 06 2012 10:17 DoYouHas wrote: "He keeps putting weight on things that actually have no weight." I hope that those of you out there who are actually townies do not buy this. You currently have 3 people out there who you know for certain that their motivations are townie. gumshoe, Alderan, and yourself. Ignoring their suspicions and posts is pure folly. slOosh claiming they have no weight is absurd. Conveniently ignored are any of zelblade's reads, even though he just flipped town. Seems like you like to advice people but not listen to your own. You just like manipulation of dead townie's reads to paint me scum. You forget Alderan was the first to post PBPA on Chocolate, forget that gumshoe's suspicion is solely a "gut feel" but keep asserting the authority of dead people's posts. On March 06 2012 22:20 k2hd wrote: I do also believe that sloosh has been actively trying to discredit DoYouHas ever since he came back. When alderan went MIA due to his RL issues and DoYouHas left on his trip, sloosh's posting became more active. He was effectively able to take over town discussion, and now that DoYouHas is back, sloosh aims to discredit him so that mafia have complete control over town. The authoritative and generally stronger posters in alderan and zelblade are now gone, leaving DoYouHas. Sloosh is trying to get the rest of the town players to stop listening to him, leaving him unopposed. For those who sheeped alderan, I really hope you don't take sloosh's posting as fact. Read things in context k2hd. I still think you are a townie (albeit a mislead one) which is why I bother to improve your reasoning and logic. My posting became more active. But so did zelblade's. How can you apply the "activity" logic on me but not zelblade? I didn't take over town discussion - I was one of the few who actually posted anything in this desert of a thread town. Really look at where your reads are coming from - because as I see it you are just sheeping DYH and Chocolate. On March 06 2012 22:20 k2hd wrote: He had an issue with alderan having more than one case up at a time (and clearly does not want a no lynch either) , because "we need consensus or we will be driven to no lynch again". But what did he just do on day 3? Bring up 2 extensive cases against DoYouHas and alderan at the same time. He then berates nightfury, chocolate, testsubject and DoYouHas for voting the way they did to avoid a no lynch. Sloosh could very well have avoided this situation if he'd just posted the case against his strongest scum read first (DoYouHas), and left alderan's case for later. Note that both cases are brought up when both players are conveniently unable to defend themselves until very close to the deadline. Again, hindsight and confirmation bias. I berated Alderan since all he was doing was casting suspicion on multiple people without the intent of actually finding and lynching mafia. You said it yourself - my cases were extensive. I didn't post them primarily for feedback on my read - I posted them primarily because I thought they were scum and wanted to lynch them. Reread what I highlighted in bold. I could have avoided the situation? Just think about the mentality you are sheeping off DYH. If I posted my one case and people didn't agree, don't you see a no lynch, or even worse, a thoughtless bandwagon lynch could have been the only outcomes? I did my best to offer my reads because people weren't in consensus, as the 2-2 initial vote split indicates. And really, you have to start reading for yourself man. On March 04 2012 11:46 slOosh wrote: As for now I'm voting my strongest read otherwise. ##Vote: Alderan This is all I can post right now, I'll be back later tonight to finish my thoughts. | ||
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NightFury
Canada114 Posts
On March 07 2012 01:52 NightFury wrote: I was extremely busy yesterday and will be at work for at least another 6 hours. I plan on being very active tonight and expect to hear from me. Just wanted to say one thing before resuming work just from skimming. I really doubt there is a godfather this game. If we have a DT, I believe all your townie checks are reliable. The basis for this statement is the fact that we have a confirmed RoleBlocker. There is no reason for zel to claim he got RBed twice since he was town. If you look at numerous other mini mafia games (both newbie or otherwise), I have not found a single one that included more than one red role above mafia goon. Is it still possible that there is a godfather? Yes. Do I find it extremely unlikely? Yes. EBWOP: While I think the message was clear, I meant to say "There is no reason for zel not to claim he got RBed twice since he was town.". Anyways, I'm back now. Reading the thread and will be posting in due time. | ||
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:36 slOosh wrote: Let me refresh everyone's minds of a recent post. Conveniently ignored are any of zelblade's reads, even though he just flipped town. Seems like you like to advice people but not listen to your own. You just like manipulation of dead townie's reads to paint me scum. You forget Alderan was the first to post PBPA on Chocolate, forget that gumshoe's suspicion is solely a "gut feel" but keep asserting the authority of dead people's posts. Wow, you're really grasping at straws now considering the post you quoted happened before zelblade died. There is no 'convenient ignoring'. In fact, I am really amused that you are the one to bring up how zelblade's death hurts my arguments against you. This morning in the shower I was musing to myself that the first person who brought up how zelblade's death discredits me was probably mafia (sort of like in the godfather where the rat is the one who proposes the meeting). It is just perfect that you are the one to do it, slOosh. It fits perfectly with your MO of trying to discredit me. See, it is true that zelblade was suspicious of me. It is also true that zelblade was on my list of possible scum. With 1 hit the mafia have thrown doubt both on my scumlist and on my aggression towards slOosh. zelblade is the perfect hit for framing me as scum. It discredits my case on slOosh, discredits my scumlist, and removes a townie voice that was opposed to me. Why would I do that to myself if I am indeed scum? So that I can make this exact defense? That is a pretty low reward for drawing suspicion back onto myself. Of course, you all could decide that this is speculation into why zelblade was hit and therefore WIFOM and moot. As for Alderan, he did post the first PBPA on Chocolate, but if memory serves, he was not the one that pushed Chocolate's lynch in the end. He was, however, the one who speculated that mafia would push the case of a townie over one of their own day1. And would ya look at that, 3/4 of the people I suspect to be mafia are on that list. I really should be thanking you slOosh, in your desire to discredit me, you narrowed my list to 4. | ||
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NightFury
Canada114 Posts
On March 07 2012 02:34 DoYouHas wrote: Seems the battle lines have been drawn. Me, k2hd, NightFury, Chocolate vs slOosh, Ghost, Phagga, Testsubject. Jekyll, I don't know what you will end up deciding. But if I read the sides on this as clearly as I think I do, your decision is going to be the difference between an all townie lynching of scum and a bus. ##Vote: slOosh This post has been the basis of my entire evening so far. In all honesty, I think it may come down to two sides going against each other. The thread is in total chaos and everyone can point fingers at just about everyone. I don't think there is a single person remaining in this thread who hasn't done something scummy in someone else's eyes. There is no objective way to tell. I still think that there has to be scum directing the thread. Given how dire the situation is, taking a stance like this provides the direction this game needs. I've spent a lot of time now on filters trying to see if these two sides make sense. I'm inclined to believe that k2hd and DYH are town. Chocolate on the other hand I'm still having difficulty with (which I think I've been having this entire game). K2hd has spent an ample amount of time defending Chocolate over time past Day 1. His views are clear and appear reasonable. DYH, you went from leaning town to a town read on Chocolate in the span of about 6 - 7 hours between these two posts: + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2012 03:44 DoYouHas wrote: I can't believe you are all willing to ignore the primary suspicion of 2 flipped townies. And ignore both of their town reads on me. And not be suspicious of slOosh who pushed HARD a case that attacked 2 townies. No, he gets away from that mess perfectly clean.... why? slOosh's immediate response to the 'realization' that he had just spearheaded another townie was to blame it on everyone else. And now even though he just incorrectly pegged Alderan, he is perfectly confident that in spite of his own bad scumhunting and Alderan's defense of me, the other half of his initial case must be right. How is anyone possibly buying this? Just as a fun exercise, let's look at slOosh's responses to mislynching in his previous games. + Show Spoiler [SNMM7] + On February 23 2012 01:06 slOosh wrote: Ok. I'm back and catching up with the thread as I have been busy IRL and will be till tomorrow. Hopefully it won't stop me from responding and contributing. My stance on Mattchew - He is probably correct. I went off the assumption that everyone has the same logic as me and if they didn't do what I would do they would be acting illogical hence mafia. I did not consider that people can be inexperienced. I responded negatively to Mattchew because he didn't say why my case was bad and it looked to me that he was distracting my case. I still don't like the basis of his case, that he did some filter pickings and chose 4 people who avoided each other. However, I cannot argue with results - it has promoted discussion and the suspects are posting more content. Objectively he is producing pro town content, even though it is through antagonistic means. I have to say he is leaning town right now. However, I am still waiting for his own reads. Enough content has been flying around and I want to see him to present a good case. The goal isn't content but using it to strengthen a case and lynch the strongest mafia suspect. I'm also going to have to retract my read on Alderan. That was just OMGUS or paranoia, and I can see where he is getting his case on me (even though I strongly disagree with the logic he uses, but as I stated above I'm realizing that not using my kind of logic does not necessarily equate with scum). Following post will address Mattchew's 4. + Show Spoiler [NMM3] + On January 27 2012 14:12 slOosh wrote: After cooling off, I have to reluctantly agree. I don't think me getting tunnel vision and attacking zarepath is helpful to town when there are still so many lurkers in the game. I'm willing to back off in order to punish inactives/lurkers. I do agree with MidnightGladius that Bromancipate is a good place to start. In both of these cases slOosh responds to mislynching by slowing down, reevaluating, and trying to get a better grasp on the game. Also, he tends to do this reevaluation by looking at other people's cases and putting his weight behind them. Does that look anything like his response to this mislynch? no. slOosh's biggest fear this game is that he loses it by tunneling the way he did in his 2 previous games. Does his response reflect that? no. He states that he tried his best to avoid it. Does he slow down? No, he instead throws suspicion on myself, chocolate, nightfury, and testsubject. Does he reevaluate? No, he comes after me with surprising certainty. Just the way he has handled his case against Alderan and me should be enough to get him lynched. But I know you will require more because you all love to frustrate me. So I will put together a bigger case on him. zelblade. I pointed out the fake claim because before it was only your word, now it is fact. That is a very important difference. I really dislike how you seem to be taking cues from slOosh who you also seem to have a town read on. I am confident in my town reads on JekyllAndHyde and NightFury. I lean town with Chocolate as well but that is less certain. I agree with Alderan that k2hd is probably town based off how slOosh used him in his case against us both. That leaves the 4 mafia in this list. 1. slOosh 2. Ghost 3. zelblade 4. Testsubject 5. Phagga Pull your heads out of the sand and let's get to work. + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2012 10:17 DoYouHas wrote: There is a theme to slOosh's play. "Break down townies that are active or a threat and keep them from leading the town." Read his filter yourself, it is not that long. slOosh has focused all his aggression against Chocolate, Alderan, gumshoe, and myself. And no, his case on ghost doesn't count, even he states that it was a soft accusation, easily made and easily lifted. It carried no weight. That means that slOosh has spent this entire game trying to bring down 4 townies. I am confident in my scumlist, and almost all of them have come after Chocolate at some point. Either it is a long term bussing strategy or he is townie. The first is ridiculous, the second is highly probable. Even now slOosh and Ghost try to bury my comments and attack the value of them. Oh yes, I am completely absent logic and he will deign to come enlighten my poor self when he gets home. Avoids the actual content of my post and belittles me in such a short post. Impressive really. Strangely, his response to me doesn't actually respond to anything I brought up. The heart of my post was that slOosh's worst fear this game is tunneling and mislynching a townie. That fear has become a reality, do slOosh's posts reflect that? no. He redirects blame onto the 4 of us that voted after him. What does he do when I point this out? Redirects back onto the 4 who voted after him. His wasn't the vote that clenched that majority, so clearly those who did are more to blame than him. Never mind that it was his suspicions and cases that pigeonholed the town into a choice between 2 townies. No, whatever way that lynch went, slOosh would have been the reason a townie got lynched. And as for those 4 that you want to throw the blame onto. I am one, I have town reads on Chocolate and Nightfury. So no, I don't think theirs were scum bandwagon votes. I think theirs were votes of someone who wanted a lynch in a less than ideal situation. "He keeps putting weight on things that actually have no weight." I hope that those of you out there who are actually townies do not buy this. You currently have 3 people out there who you know for certain that their motivations are townie. gumshoe, Alderan, and yourself. Ignoring their suspicions and posts is pure folly. slOosh claiming they have no weight is absurd. Man I hope slOosh gets shot tonight. I checked what happened between those several hours and only found Chocolate defending himself from the usual onslaught. However, I didn't notice anything that struck me as town in his posts specifically. Only that he was defending himself from certain individuals. And the points brought up against him aren't farfetched either. What made you change your mind from leaning town to town read in those hours? As confusing as Chocolate's posts can be (they've been all over the spectrum)... I'm finding it a bit of a tough pill to swallow. And as much as I want to believe it, I don't think I can justify it based on what I want to believe. As far as the Sloosh dialogue goes. I'm confused and not completely sure how to approach it. Sloosh does make sense in his defence to the Alderan lynch. However, I can still see how anyone can spin certain topics in certain manners to change how they can be viewed. It seems like Sloosh had more thoughts which he couldn't completely post at this moment and I'm willing to wait to see how he continues later tonight. In the meantime, I will be spending time going through Jekyll's case against k2hd. Similar to Chocolate, I need to ensure that what I believe isn't just personal opinion. | ||
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
The way I see it is that if Chocolate is scum, this has been the longest and most elaborate bus I've ever seen or heard of. I find that notion ridiculous. Therefore, Chocolate is town. | ||
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slOosh
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On March 07 2012 09:50 DoYouHas wrote: Wow, you're really grasping at straws now considering the post you quoted happened before zelblade died. There is no 'convenient ignoring'. In fact, I am really amused that you are the one to bring up how zelblade's death hurts my arguments against you. Hmm. I don't recall saying that. Let me requote myself. On March 07 2012 08:36 slOosh wrote: Seems like you like to advice people but not listen to your own. I never said anything about how zelblade's death is an indicator your alignment. I pointed out how you are so confident in prior dead townies posts but have not yet shown any consideration to zelblade's townie thoughts. A Logical Inconsistency. On March 07 2012 09:50 DoYouHas wrote: As for Alderan, he did post the first PBPA on Chocolate, but if memory serves, he was not the one that pushed Chocolate's lynch in the end. He was, however, the one who speculated that mafia would push the case of a townie over one of their own day1. And would ya look at that, 3/4 of the people I suspect to be mafia are on that list. Hmm. I don't recall that either. In fact, it was you who first posted and got him to sheep you on it. On February 28 2012 08:29 Alderan wrote: I almost made literally the exact same post. The Chocolate thing is coming along too easily, I would have expected at least a case made against someone else. That in combination with his mildly sufficient answers have me reconsidering my vote. Not only that, but 2/2 people I suspect are on Alderan's D3 vote list. Yea, I can manipulate and twist evidence too. Oh, and no problem on narrowing your list. It truly was "my desire to discredit you" that narrowed your list to 4. Not zelblade's death. No, that had nothing to do with it. On March 06 2012 03:44 DoYouHas wrote: That leaves the 4 mafia in this list. 1. slOosh 2. Ghost 3. zelblade 4. Testsubject 5. Phagga I grow weary and tired of your logical inconsistencies, your tireless OMGUSs and your forgetful memory. I can't believe I forgot to do this with my last post: ##Vote: DoYouHas | ||
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k2hd
Cayman Islands78 Posts
Read things in context k2hd. I still think you are a townie (albeit a mislead one) which is why I bother to improve your reasoning and logic. My posting became more active. But so did zelblade's. How can you apply the "activity" logic on me but not zelblade? I didn't take over town discussion - I was one of the few who actually posted anything in this desert of a thread town. Really look at where your reads are coming from - because as I see it you are just sheeping DYH and Chocolate. I am looking at my reads, and am confident that you are scum. I am not merely sheeping DoYouHas and Chocolate. And really, you have to start reading for yourself man. I believe that you are now not only actively discrediting DoYouHas, you are also trying to make me doubt myself as much as possible. It is approaching the end game, and I am now confident in my reads. My vote stays on you. As for nightfury, test and JekylAndHyde, hope to hear from you soon and tell us where you stand. | ||
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phagga
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On March 07 2012 09:50 DoYouHas wrote: Wow, you're really grasping at straws now considering the post you quoted happened before zelblade died. There is no 'convenient ignoring'. In fact, I am really amused that you are the one to bring up how zelblade's death hurts my arguments against you. This morning in the shower I was musing to myself that the first person who brought up how zelblade's death discredits me was probably mafia (sort of like in the godfather where the rat is the one who proposes the meeting). It is just perfect that you are the one to do it, slOosh. It fits perfectly with your MO of trying to discredit me. See, it is true that zelblade was suspicious of me. It is also true that zelblade was on my list of possible scum. With 1 hit the mafia have thrown doubt both on my scumlist and on my aggression towards slOosh. zelblade is the perfect hit for framing me as scum. It discredits my case on slOosh, discredits my scumlist, and removes a townie voice that was opposed to me. Why would I do that to myself if I am indeed scum? So that I can make this exact defense? That is a pretty low reward for drawing suspicion back onto myself. Of course, you all could decide that this is speculation into why zelblade was hit and therefore WIFOM and moot. Actually, you said yourself on D2 that this kind of speculation is WIFOM. On February 29 2012 15:41 DoYouHas wrote: 'Thinking about it from scum's perspective' is just going to be WIFOM and not helpful. I'm not ignoring or ignorant of the WIFOM possibilities of Janaan's death, I'm putting it to the side. Until more information is available later in the game I'm not willing to use the mafia killing Janaan either against or for Alderan. Tomorrow when I delve into filters and such I will try to do so independent of that kind of thinking. I fell into it last game with MidnightGladius. It wasn't helpful then, it won't be helpful now. About this: On March 07 2012 09:50 DoYouHas wrote: As for Alderan, he did post the first PBPA on Chocolate, but if memory serves, he was not the one that pushed Chocolate's lynch in the end. He was, however, the one who speculated that mafia would push the case of a townie over one of their own day1. And would ya look at that, 3/4 of the people I suspect to be mafia are on that list. I really should be thanking you slOosh, in your desire to discredit me, you narrowed my list to 4. Two people I have on my scum list had zelblade in their scum list. Also, the other two people on my scum list do not have the first two people on their scum list. And all four of them have not been eating bread this morning, while I as a townie have been eating bread this morning. So they MUST be scum. When I look at that post again, you said nothing, really. Just some WIFOM and making up numbers that don't mean anything. On March 07 2012 02:34 DoYouHas wrote: Seems the battle lines have been drawn. Me, k2hd, NightFury, Chocolate vs slOosh, Ghost, Phagga, Testsubject. Jekyll, I don't know what you will end up deciding. But if I read the sides on this as clearly as I think I do, your decision is going to be the difference between an all townie lynching of scum and a bus. ##Vote: slOosh On March 07 2012 10:55 NightFury wrote: This post has been the basis of my entire evening so far. In all honesty, I think it may come down to two sides going against each other. The thread is in total chaos and everyone can point fingers at just about everyone. I don't think there is a single person remaining in this thread who hasn't done something scummy in someone else's eyes. There is no objective way to tell. I still think that there has to be scum directing the thread. Given how dire the situation is, taking a stance like this provides the direction this game needs. On March 07 2012 23:48 k2hd wrote: Sloosh, maybe our definition of "active" differs, but zelblade's activity seemed pretty consistent to me throughout the length of his stay. I am looking at my reads, and am confident that you are scum. I am not merely sheeping DoYouHas and Chocolate. I believe that you are now not only actively discrediting DoYouHas, you are also trying to make me doubt myself as much as possible. It is approaching the end game, and I am now confident in my reads. My vote stays on you. As for nightfury, test and JekylAndHyde, hope to hear from you soon and tell us where you stand. So this is it, isn't it? The endgame is here, and it seems the lines are drawn, and I am irrefutably pushed into a group, no matter if I like it or not. I wonder if both k2hd and nightfury are scum as well, or if the mafia was able to draw a townie in their group and put a spy in the other. Or perhaps I am the mislead one, and DYH and Chocolate are in indeed town. But I doubt it. I will know it in 11 hours. ##Vote Chocolate | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
Two quick notes. First of all, this post is my favorite post in the thread this far. On March 07 2012 02:34 DoYouHas wrote: Seems the battle lines have been drawn. Me, k2hd, NightFury, Chocolate vs slOosh, Ghost, Phagga, Testsubject. Jekyll, I don't know what you will end up deciding. But if I read the sides on this as clearly as I think I do, your decision is going to be the difference between an all townie lynching of scum and a bus. ##Vote: slOosh I love it because it so perfectly paints me, phagga and test into the corner. So beautifully scummy. Second note: in my opinion, this is a scum slip on DYH's part. On March 07 2012 09:50 DoYouHas wrote: zelblade is the perfect hit for framing me as scum. It discredits my case on slOosh, discredits my scumlist, and removes a townie voice that was opposed to me. Why would I do that to myself if I am indeed scum? So that I can make this exact defense? That is a pretty low reward for drawing suspicion back onto myself. + Show Spoiler + Of course, you all could decide that this is speculation into why zelblade was hit and therefore WIFOM and moot. As for Alderan, he did post the first PBPA on Chocolate, but if memory serves, he was not the one that pushed Chocolate's lynch in the end. He was, however, the one who speculated that mafia would push the case of a townie over one of their own day1. And would ya look at that, 3/4 of the people I suspect to be mafia are on that list. I really should be thanking you slOosh, in your desire to discredit me, you narrowed my list to 4. Townies don't think like this. Townies wait until someone accuses them of being scum and use the night kill as part of their case against them to make the claim that they were framed. I don't remember that happening. Scum, on the other hand, sit around worrying about how the night kill looked to the town, worrying if it somehow implicated them. A final thought for free. I'm okay with a Chocolate lynch. Unlike DYH, I haven't deemed him a townie because other people think he's scum. | ||
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dreamflower
United States312 Posts
slOosh - 3 k2hd DoYouHas Chocolate DoYouHas - 1 slOosh Chocolate - 1 phagga Non-Voters - 4 JekyllAndHyde NightFury TestSubject893 ghost_403 | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
This is D3 all over again. The inactivity of the people frustrates me. I feel pressured to either vote sloosh or DYH, and I'm no fan of that. *sigh* | ||
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