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On January 26 2012 14:27 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2012 14:21 mrKamiya wrote: This looks absolutely amazing, looking forward to it. Thanks Kennigit! I can't wait, it seems they're really trying to participate in esports unlike usual. All i did was reply to an email. Waxangel is the true interview hero.
Ah that makes sense. ^^ Awesome interview Waxangel, thanks for sharing Kennegit. Super awesome read, I kind of like another group (the developers of course) just stepping into the market like "yo bitches. sup?" (I know they aren't completely new to eSports tournaments, but just roll with me). The bar will be set higher and higher xD.
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I just hope that Blizzard is considering Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia for this project. They already have a lot of solid fanbases here.
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This is indeed great news, i was thinking some time ago about a sc2 world championship and i love the structure that they going for. As for Hots is better to be left aside,because all game will shift and become like in sc2 in beginning now sc2 is really mature and in a good spot for this kind of tournament. Next ....... Release DIABLO 3 T_T
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This looks sooooooooo awesome. Can't wait!
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Quite surprised about the HotS part... We'll see how it turns out, but if Blizzard itself does not fully support its own game when it's released and considering the complaints of many pros about what they've seen of this first expansion pack so far, I wouldn't be surprised if tournaments around the world sticked to WoL for quite a while.
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Can be really cool. I like those formats which give every unkown player the possibility to become the new thorzain. The HotS part is the only thing i slightly worrie about, i think they could potentially damage their own game if the competition is forced to stay on wol.
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This sounds very promising. It's good that they are reaching out to local grassroots organizations, let's just hope we don't have another AZK fiasco. This is also great for unsigned individuals and ladder gosus, as they have a chance to qualify even if they are not on a team.
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On January 26 2012 20:21 ZenDeX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2012 20:14 nimdil wrote:On January 26 2012 17:05 how wrote:On January 26 2012 17:04 nimdil wrote: I don't like it. in my opinion they should maybe support wcg 2012 instead of directly competing with it. Because while some organizations may be happy about this, i don't see wcg smiling. they could stick to battle.net invitational format and expand wcg which is already established.with national qualifiers.
Nothing really to be excited.about. By competing, it forces both organizations to try harder. Why have NASL and IPL? They should just work together. NASL and IPL can compete. But how can you compete with Blizzard? It's their game. It's their battle.net. Competing against Blizzard is competing against someone who has huge advantage. While I agree WCG could do better job, I don't think Blizzard should just throw super-global-tournament. It's really hard to tell whether it will stimulate the pro scene for SC2 or eclipse everything else (and make everything else worse). Competition is always good for the international scene. You know that they say, "The more the merrier." The only thing to worry about is scheduling these events so they don't conflict each other. Nobody loses that way IMO. I really hope you are right.
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I just really hope that the national qualifier system wont be limiting for countries with more than the usual amout of exceptional players. And that Blizzard will use the prize pools smartly to get people's attention.
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On January 26 2012 20:21 ZenDeX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2012 20:14 nimdil wrote:On January 26 2012 17:05 how wrote:On January 26 2012 17:04 nimdil wrote: I don't like it. in my opinion they should maybe support wcg 2012 instead of directly competing with it. Because while some organizations may be happy about this, i don't see wcg smiling. they could stick to battle.net invitational format and expand wcg which is already established.with national qualifiers.
Nothing really to be excited.about. By competing, it forces both organizations to try harder. Why have NASL and IPL? They should just work together. NASL and IPL can compete. But how can you compete with Blizzard? It's their game. It's their battle.net. Competing against Blizzard is competing against someone who has huge advantage. While I agree WCG could do better job, I don't think Blizzard should just throw super-global-tournament. It's really hard to tell whether it will stimulate the pro scene for SC2 or eclipse everything else (and make everything else worse). Competition is always good for the international scene. You know that they say, "The more the merrier." The only thing to worry about is scheduling these events so they don't conflict each other. Nobody loses that way IMO.
Scheduleing is the main problem with so many large tournaments (that and maybe time or payments). Like we have already seem this with the MLG and IEM schedule conflicts. Last year's blizzard cup went off without a hitch partly due to the fact is was basiclly the last event of the year. This tournament could really throw a wrench into the plans of the other major tournaments if blizzard does not plan correctly.
Also i'm pretty sure quite a few people would prefer blizzard running a global event instead of the current WCG team.
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On January 26 2012 20:42 marcelluspye wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2012 14:17 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote: How would the release of Heart of the Swarm in the middle of the year affect the competition? Ilja Rotelli: We had that conversation and we had to decide. Obviously we don't have a release date announced yet for Heart of the Swarm, and we had to decide how eSports would behave in 2012 for StarCraft II. We felt that any form of switch whenever the date would be, from Wings of Liberty to Heart of the Swarm, would betray the nature of the sport. I can't tell a bunch of professional players because of marketing that "You know, you need to promote Heart of the Swarm, could you show up next month and switch the game you're playing?" So the entire 2012 season is going to be played with Wings of Liberty, regardless of when we launch Heart of the Swarm. This sounds to me like something that could very well backfire. If other tournaments switch to HotS immediately, and Blizzard isn't using HotS at all, then players would have to practice two separate [albeit similar] games, and if some switch and some stay, can Blizzard really say that whoever wins the championship is the best SC2 player in the world, and not just the best WoL player? Or worse, other teams might be considering switching to HotS, but once they see that Blizzard isn't doing it, they'll scrap their plans of using it and HotS wouldn't be played at all. This is assuming Blizzard isn't flexible in their plans, but considering that in most other answers they said that they were flexible/discussing the issue and in this one they state clearly that HotS will not be used, I have a bad feeling that they may not be flexible at all.
If anything should be considered stupid it would be to go and completely change the game being played in the middle of a season. A few leagues, like MLG and IEM, have long seasons and would make absolutely no sense to have a qualifier tournament played with WoL and then have the main event with HotS. If these companies have even considered doing that (which I doubt) this will only make them think twice about it and hopefully reconsider.
In any case I don't even think the game will be released much before december this year, possibly not until Q1 2013. It would make sense if tournaments didn't start hosting HotS events untill next year, after most organizers have a break during the winter.
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Nice attitute to say that the prize pool isnt everything. I hate this kind of "uhhh we got 5mio." "we have a 1.6mio tournament"... They tournament itself is what is important!
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Awwwww yyeeeaaaahhhhhhhh.
This is awesome. A great idea, a lot like the WCG, I guess.
I look forward to it.
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That's amazing news. I'm really looking forward to the national events. I also think, that using only WoL is a very good idea. It really helps aknowledge sc2 as a sport, which leaves monetary interests in the backround.
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I like the fact that it will be played on WoL, also the champion of this tournament, probably can be qualified as one of the worlds if not the worlds best player. I hope it's some underdog who takes it all, some one unknown that hasn't entered the scene yet.
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Whoa, didn't see this coming.
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This is so awesome. Time to 6-pool to the World Championships. B)
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Implent embedded streams to the big tournaments @ the loginscreen and Blizzard will smash and conquer the entire world.
Seriously, I respect the huge viewernumbers League of Legends achieve. But to be fair, they for sure have an advantage when the company itself is trying to turn the game into eSport. Blizzard Entertainment themselves have just up until now practically let the audience run the show.
I did like the "we are treating eSports as a sport." part for sure though.
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On January 26 2012 14:31 Skwid1g wrote: Wait.... the entire thing is going to be played on WoL?
That seems like a terrible idea to be honest, unless they're alluding to the fact that HotS isn't coming out until late in the year or something.
HOTS Christmas 2012 sounds about right.
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I guess its interesting...but I can't see anything radically changing just because there is an announcement of a new global tournament. There are so many tournaments already, it seems like the SC2 pro-gaming scene is congested already. There are, to the best of my knowledge, already a number of smaller tournaments for people who want to make a name for themselves (the grassroots level).
And while it might be fun for people in regions to attempt to make it to the world stage, its kind of guaranteed that the non-committed pro-gamers will be swept aside by the committed ones and you'll end up with more or less the same group in the upper echelons of the tournament each year. Not to mention, there isn't very much interest in watching "no-name" players compete against each other online (as far as I know).
Its nice that Blizzard wants to make SC2 more appealing to people...but I don't see another tournament as adding anything meaningful. Maybe they should work on the laddering system instead, perhaps create a mode where your rank doesn't matter and you just play for fun. If they could somehow get rid of the anxiety surrounding SC2, and the associated stress, you could attract new players who might decide to play more seriously?
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